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Pass the mince pies- Christmas Chat Thread Part Deux
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Seeing the current state of the UK & America with COVID19 has honestly made me worried about Christmas this year, I really feel we'll be back into some form of Lockdown this Winter.
I wouldn't be so worried myself, I can certainly see there being restrictions still in place, social distancing, hand washing, face coverings & cough etiquette are not going anywhere for a long time (or until a vaccine is found) but a full on lockdown similar to our heaviest enforced stage will be extremely difficult to get public buy in a second time round.
In reality the plan was never to kill the thing completely, it was to get some breathing room for the HSE to build up capacity & not get overwhelmed, that plan succeeded, incredibly well in fact based on ICU patients & hospitalised Covid 19 patients in general. All of a sudden the figures going up (& marginally at that) are triggering all kinds of panic, which is more of a poor communication issue from government than a sign a full on resurgence is inevitable.
For all the talk of flights from our poorly run neighbours East & West of us, in reality the passenger manifests are tiny from these destinations and have a minimal impact on spread. The mixed signals to Irish citizens looking to holiday abroad are the real balls up IMO. Clarity & a joined up strategy should have been implemented from the start, (preferably without Michael O'Leary deciding when we were ready to fly) & the fact thats still a mess is a national disgrace. But if the numbers stay low it 'should' be manageable.
Stick to the basics that got us doing so well in the first place and go hard on the masks in confined spaces and we are more than capable of keeping this under control without overwhelming the HSE.
But despite all that I think its clear too many have started to get complacent & are acting like this is done & dusted & thats the real risk area IMO & at a time communication to the public is diminishing day on day if it was up to me I'd be ramping it up again & hammering the basics home, over & over.
Christmas will be christmas, it might look a little different & we may not get to go to the pub (I can live with that in reality), but a full on lockdown simply wont be bought into by the public and wont have anything like the success rate of the first one, hence my gut feeling we'll see a series of rolling restrictions in an atempt to keep the numbers down, but simply cant see a full on closing down happening again unless it gets off the charts in the hospitals & ICU's."I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year" - Charles Dickens
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Christmas will be christmas, it might look a little different & we may not get to go to the pub (I can live with that in reality), but a full on lockdown simply wont be bought into by the public and wont have anything like the success rate of the first one, hence my gut feeling we'll see a series of rolling restrictions in an atempt to keep the numbers down, but simply cant see a full on closing down happening again unless it gets off the charts in the hospitals & ICU's.
I really hope you are right DvB and I can live some restrictions (pubs been closed wouldn't bother me in the slightest). Christmas is what you make you and once I can be with immediate family then everything else is not that important.
We went to Hidden Valley over the weekend when out walking, which is where we have seen Santa the last couple of years. Was completely different on a sunny July day to a cold dark December evening however when I closed my eyes I could clearly see the Santa train, Elves, excited children and the big man himself
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I think like more of these things its will be impossible to enforce/police so will be up the individuals involved what they want to do.
Personally we have followed the advise from the start however at times I have questioned the logic behind it but went with it as it didn't have a massive negative impact on us (very lucky I know).
If the advise was to stay as it is now till Christmas (don't believe it will) we would have less then four families at our house however more then 10 people!
Spot on.
We've been the same, followed all the restrictions etc.
Still bugs me when I go to do the weekly shop & the vast majority of customers ignoring the hand sanitiser, dont wear masks & even attempt to socially distance when I go out of my way to be as careful as possible. Even when the oldies came to visit us & the kids we sit out the back & stay apart (no hugging etc.) when all around us we watch gangs of people hanging out & parties going on... v.frustrating to see so may just give up & potentially ruin all the work thats gone into getting us this far.
If I win the lotto I'm buying an island, renaming it Christmas Island II (one already exists) and will invite you all to come & stay (after being tested & cleared of course!) for a big christmas celebration!
"I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year" - Charles Dickens
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Spot on.
We've been the same, followed all the restrictions etc.
Still bugs me when I go to do the weekly shop & the vast majority of customers ignoring the hand sanitiser, dont wear masks & even attempt to socially distance when I go out of my way to be as careful as possible. Even when the oldies came to visit us & the kids we sit out the back & stay apart (no hugging etc.) when all around us we watch gangs of people hanging out & parties going on... v.frustrating to see so may just give up & potentially ruin all the work thats gone into getting us this far.
If I win the lotto I'm buying an island, renaming it Christmas Island II (one already exists) and will invite you all to come & stay (after being tested & cleared of course!) for a big christmas celebration!
This 100%.
Maybe you already bought an island
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/horse-island-ireland-sold-scli-intl/index.html0 -
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