‪Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread IX: The Last Jordi [****]

pickarooney

swiwi_ wrote: »

What is this, Switzerland?

Surely common sense would dictate: €50, €15, €30...

In fairness, in Switzerland it would be €53.17 and €32.63, but still...

False. Switzerland uses the Swiss Franc.
A superior currency to the made up wishy washy euro.

stephen_n

swiwi_ wrote: »

What is this, Switzerland?

Surely common sense would dictate: €50, €15, €30...

In fairness, in Switzerland it would be €53.17 and €32.63, but still...

Well it was actually €29.75 with a €2 administration fee

Stheno

Stheno wrote: »

My two are 111 and I've yet to figure out where they are

Hit the pay invoice button and it'll tell you.

FrannoFan

.ak wrote: »

1. Isa
2. VDF
3. Fardy

The irish/leinster vote going to be badly split on this one. Will end up shooting ourselves in the foot!

prawnsambo

This is the only way Isa can be rewarded for how he's played for and led Leinster.

If this is his final season, there's no better way to mark it. The campaign starts here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuspft5R1-s

Vote here.

Buer

If we're talking tributes to the man...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=528HoWAprvo

impr0v

prawnsambo wrote: »

This is the only way Isa can be rewarded for how he's played for and led Leinster.

If this is his final season, there's no better way to mark it. The campaign starts here.

I'd be surprised if he didn't go for another one - perhaps more as a stand-in 12 than wing/fb.

He could, and should, also be awarded the freedom of Dublin. Not sure how we get that campaign going though. He's a bona fide legend.

Edit: the Lord Mayor would have to nominate him.

prawnsambo

impr0v wrote: »

I'd be surprised if he didn't go for another one - perhaps more as a stand-in 12 than wing/fb.

He could, and should, also be awarded the freedom of Dublin. Not sure how we get that campaign going though. He's a bona fide legend.

Can't take that for granted though. We've really no idea what effort he has to go through to get to the level he needs every week and whether he can keep that up for another year.

Vote early and often.

.ak

Buer wrote: »

If we're talking tributes to the man...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=528HoWAprvo

Still my favourite moment from him... Remember being pretty much on the sideline for that, right on the 5m line, and seeing it all unfold infront of me. I was sitting beside a Leicester fan who just turned to me and said 'You'll go on and win this if he plays in the final for you.'

He's undoubtedly the best ever signing, and only the second to BOD in a Leinster jersey... Altho BOD would have it the other way around.

Still, don't think this will be his swan song. I think he's defo got another season left in him, as a break incase of emergency player that can help in training and off the pitch support, ala Jennings/Cullen etc.

think that should have been a penalty against Jennings in the lineout turnover

.ak

Karlie Tasty Haircut wrote: »

think that should have been a penalty against Jennings in the lineout turnover

It would be today. Think that's Locky tho?

Karlie Tasty Haircut

Karlie Tasty Haircut wrote: »

think that should have been a penalty against Jennings in the lineout turnover

It was McLaughlin, he did it at virtually every defensive lineout in the game. Would be a penalty against these days for sure.

.ak

.ak wrote: »

It would be today. Think that's Locky tho?

was that not an offense then too? you're right, it was McLaughlin

.ak

Karlie Tasty Haircut wrote: »

was that not an offense then too? you're right, it was McLaughlin

I'm sure it was, but it wasn't as heavily imposed as it is now. Like many laws in rugby, a lot are ignored by refs to ensure the game isn't stopped at every oppertunity.

Once a few jumpers landed awkwardly it looked like pulling in the air could result in series head trauma there seemed to be a conscience change to how contact in the air was interpreted.

I remember how much was made out of it at the time, Locky was hailed as a hero of the dark arts in the lineout, nobody even considered it a penalty, just good gamesmanship, but when I saw the reply just there I was like 'that's a penalty'.

It's funny how little things change in terms of interpretations, flavour of the month etc. when it comings to officiating.

Former Former

I remember that lineout steal being highlighted on the TV coverage at the time as Leinster getting a slice of luck (which is what we call it when a refereeing error goes in our favour), so it was definitely an offence then, just missed by the officials.

irishbucsfan

Generally I find you'll get away with using your inside arm to attack the other jumper's inside arm. It's only when you reach further that I find most refs will want to get involved.

clsmooth

.ak wrote: »

It's funny how little things change in terms of interpretations, flavour of the month etc. when it comings to officiating.

Too true, I was watching a few clips of Isa today and this one of him getting hit with a no arm tackle came up and it seemed strange how the referee had a quick work with the touch judge and came to a decision without going to the TMO

Podge_irl

.ak wrote: »

I remember how much was made out of it at the time, Locky was hailed as a hero of the dark arts in the lineout, nobody even considered it a penalty, just good gamesmanship, but when I saw the reply just there I was like 'that's a penalty'.

I remember that very differently. I recall quite a big deal being made out of how it should have been penalised but he got away with it well.

Buer

Ah, people definitely considered it a penalty at the time but they often aren't awarded. I'd compare something like that to holding someone in at a ruck in terms of its frequency. It wasn't blatant, just a subtle tug on the arm which was enough to force Deacon to spill the ball without ever impacting on his trajectory or threatening his landing.

The issue is that McLaughlin did it two or three times in the game to great effect and Sky zoned in on it. They could do the same in plenty of games. Leicester should have been shouting about it from the rooftops.

irishfan9

Larmour bumped to senior deal.

prawnsambo

irishfan9 wrote: »

Larmour bumped to senior deal.

The inevitability of this was inevitable.

That's a pity. I liked that even international commentators kept referring to him as a 'Leinster academy' player. Just made it sound all the more impressive as he tore the shíte out of opposition.

He'll probably be crap now.

irishbucsfan

They need to get rid of Larmour. Just relying on their old faithful "experienced" players again. Only an absolute bleedin idiot wouldn't pick Tommy O'Brien on the wing ahead of him.

Winters

Didnt Luke Fitz skip the academy altogether?

irishfan9

Winters wrote: »

Didnt Luke Fitz skip the academy altogether?

Yeah.

irishbucsfan

Winters wrote: »

Didnt Luke Fitz skip the academy altogether?

Yes, and Paddy Butler down in Munster.

Usually it's down to the province being worried by other offers when that sort of thing happens I think.

Winters

Winters wrote: »

Didnt Luke Fitz step the academy altogether?

FYP

prawnsambo

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Yes, and Paddy Butler down in Munster.

Usually it's down to the province being worried by other offers when that sort of thing happens I think.

In Luke's case it was an offer from Munster.

Winters

Winters wrote: »

Didnt Luke Fitz skip the academy altogether?

Injuring himself in the process.

dregin

Adam Byrne had a *very* short stint in the academy before being bumped to a senior deal, if he was even in the academy when he signed??

irishfan9

dregin wrote: »

Adam Byrne had a *very* short stint in the academy before being bumped to a senior deal, if he was even in the academy when he signed??

Nope, Adam Byrne was in academy for 3 years.

.ak

I think what you mean is Byrne was barely in the academy before his first senior cap against Ulster

irishbucsfan

.ak wrote: »

I think what you mean is Byrne was barely in the academy before his first senior cap against Ulster

Don't think he was even in the academy back then

Hope Adam Byrne gets to have a proper second half of the season. He's been unlucky with injuries but the game against Argentina showed an evolution in his game that many had been hoping to see.

A back three of Larmour, Lowe and Byrne is some arsenal. I still think Byrne is our best player going forward under the high ball albeit Barry Daly offers a lot here also. But having the ability to beat defenders like Larmour, go through or around them and offload like Lowe and the aerial superiority of Byrne and we really do have options in how we break down teams using our backs.

I heard that Ringrose is making good progress, would love to see Aki, Ringrose before the end of the six nations if possible. Henshaw is playing the best of any of the centre options in Ireland by a margin, but I think Aki and Ringrose would make for hugely entertaining rugby.

irishbucsfan

I think there's many ways it could go. Daly/Larmour/Lowe is equally exciting to me.

It might not matter because most teams will probably just concede walkovers against us when they see the tall messiah in his prime.

irishbucsfan

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I think there's many ways it could go. Daly/Larmour/Lowe is equally exciting to me.

It might not matter because most teams will probably just concede walkovers against us when they see the tall messiah in his prime.

We need to start being careful with this term, You are only allowed 3 at any given time.

dub_skav

Deleted User wrote: »

We need to start being careful with this term, You are only allowed 3 at any given time.

irishfan9

Deleted User wrote: »

We need to start being careful with this term, You are only allowed 3 at any given time.

the tall messiah can only mean one man...

Winters

Do we have a fast messiah and a big messiah then?

Messii? Messiahs?..

irishbucsfan

Winters wrote: »

Do we have a fast messiah and a big messiah then?

Messii? Messiahs?..

It's tall messiah, fast messiah and squat messiah.

Stheno

irishbucsfan wrote: »

It's tall messiah, fast messiah and squat messiah.

Do we have a fattie messiah for the front row?

irishbucsfan

Stheno wrote: »

Do we have a fattie messiah for the front row?

Andrew Porter is rotund messiah but at the moment we’re limited to 3 so he’ll have to kill one of the others.

Stheno

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Andrew Porter is rotund messiah but at the moment we’re limited to 3 so he’ll have to kill one of the others.

Sure he could just squash one of them in training

arsebiscuits1

Stheno wrote: »

Anyone see the interview with Stephen Ferris in the examiner where he said it was entirely plausible that Ireland's starting 15 could all come from Leinster

Haven't seen it. But very conceivable.

Healy Cronin Furlong
Toner Ryan
Leavy Conan VDF
McGrath Sexton
Henshaw Ringrose (?)
Larmour Kearney Byrne (?)

Practically it could happen. But realistically not. I don't think people could have much complaints if there were 12 or so Leinster players

Stheno

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Haven't seen it. But very conceivable.

Healy Cronin Furlong
Toner Ryan
Leavy Conan VDF
McGrath Sexton
Henshaw Ringrose (?)
Larmour Kearney Byrne (?)

Practically it could happen. But realistically not. I don't think people could have much complaints if there were 12 or so Leinster players

I read it wrong, sorry.

He actually said it would be very hard not to pick 15 Leinster players not start 15

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rugby/stephen-ferris-joe-schmidt-has-got-it-wrong-on-simon-zebo-and-tadhg-beirne-466191.html

irishbucsfan

irishbucsfan wrote: »

It's tall messiah, fast messiah and squat messiah.

The squat messiah is a bit too jumpy for my tastes.

arsebiscuits1

Stheno wrote: »

I read it wrong, sorry.

He actually said it would be very hard not to pick 15 Leinster players not start 15

That makes more sense.

Healy McGrath Cronin Furlong
Toner Ryan
VDF Leavy Conan Murphy
McGrath Sexton Carbery
Henshaw
Kearney

There's 15 players who no one could begrudge in the match day squad this 6N. Some will begrudge it obviously. But it would be unfounded.

Doesn't include the fringe or injured either such as Porter, Larmour, Ringrose, SOB and Heaslip

Yeah_Right

irishbucsfan wrote: »

It's tall messiah, fast messiah and squat messiah.

Who is the squat messiah? VDF? Surely he's a messiah. Can a wall be a messiah?

irishbucsfan

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Who is the squat messiah? VDF? Surely he's a messiah. Can a wall be a messiah?

Luke McGrath is squat messiah.

JvDF may look like a messiah and play like a messiah, but he’s not a messiah he’s a very... etc. etc. etc.

Faugheen

Can we call Larmour the sploosh messiah?