Lewis Hamilton went vegan after watching this documentary

joefromireland

Lewis Hamilton went vegan after watching a documentary called What The Health
Do you think he has put his health at risk by not eating any meat or dairy?

Collie D

I'd imagine he puts his health more at risk by driving around a track at 200mph every second weekend

Fr_Dougal

joefromireland wrote: »

Lewis Hamilton went vegan after watching a documentary called What The Health
Do you think he has put his health at risk by not eating any meat or dairy?

Are you a Vegan?

bazz26

Yum, this thread makes me long for a big tasty quarter pounder with cheese and bacon.

jacksie66

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Ipso

jacksie66 wrote: »

That documentary is ridiculous. It claims eating a few eggs a day is the same as smoking a box of fags. Even has a clip of a woman serving fried cigarettes to her kids. Pure militant vegan nonsense.

Also that thread name is pure click bait.

You won't believe post #5!!

Shenshen

joefromireland wrote: »

Lewis Hamilton went vegan after watching a documentary called What The Health
Do you think he has put his health at risk by not eating any meat or dairy?

Well, if you're that concerned about his health, I'm sure you can find him a video by the Irish meat industry that will sway his views back to the benefits of eating meat, dairy and eggs.

Shenshen

bazz26 wrote: »

Yum, this thread makes me long for a big tasty quarter pounder with cheese and bacon.

Thank you! We really couldn't have a thread about vegetarians or vegans without this post. I think it's a law of the internet at this point.

markjbloggs

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Are you a Vegan?

Well, it is 12 minutes since the OP posted and they have not indicated that they are vegan, so the OP is not vegan.

Ipso

bazz26 wrote: »

Yum, this thread makes me long for a big tasty quarter pounder with cheese and bacon.

Veal burger with fois gras and ortolans for me, thanks.

Cookie_Monster

is that the one that equates an egg to 5 cigarettes, ie a load of bollocks?

stimpson

I gave up veganism after watching this documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhoHwQ0cwIQ

Ronin247

Personally I think Mr Hamilton is an obnoxious little boll1x and couldn't care less what he does.

job seeker

Ipso wrote: »

You won't believe post #5!!

Chat with local vegans in your area..

Hande hoche!

The combination of snapback cap and man bun make it hard for me to take that chap seriously.

WoollyRedHat

Lewis Hamilton is an insult to vegans everywhere. His very namesake embodies the slaughter of pigs!!!

Hande hoche!

On a vaguely related note, that trolling campaign by the national dairy council is amusing.

mad muffin

How much pesticide is on delicious cow and pig meat? How much is on delicious kfc meat?

Now! How muc is on your precious vegetable? As a vegan you are eating more cancer!!!:eek:

bazz26

Shenshen wrote: »

Thank you! We really couldn't have a thread about vegetarians or vegans without this post. I think it's a law of the internet at this point.

Jesus, would you get over yourself and lighten up a bit.

The One Doctor

Looked back through the OP's post history. He's a health Nazi.

Guy:Incognito

A man who earns tens of millions a year as a professional sports person, most likely has teams of health professionals looking after his fitness and diets for years ,decided a YouTube documentary would change his life?

4068ac1elhodqr

Always best to go to work on an egg, as they used to say:

One egg has only 75 calories but 7 grams of high-quality protein, 5 grams of fat, and 1.6 grams of saturated fat, along with iron, vitamins, minerals, and carotenoids. The egg is a powerhouse of disease-fighting nutrients like lutein and zeaxanthin.

The views of someone that drives around around in circles is easily forgotten.

Chancer3001

Woah

WELL IF LEWIS HAMILTON DID IT

GEE WHIZZ

I DON'T EVEN NEED TO USE MY BRAIN TO THINK ABOUT IT

I'LL COPY LEWIS

Chancer3001

Braden Wrong Ballot wrote: »

Always best to go to work on an egg, as they used to say:

One egg has only 75 calories but 7 grams of high-quality protein, 5 grams of fat, and 1.6 grams of saturated fat, along with iron, vitamins, minerals, and carotenoids. The egg is a powerhouse of disease-fighting nutrients like lutein and zeaxanthin.

The views of someone that drives around around in circles is easily forgotten.

Just out of interest ... what would be poor quality protein ?

uck51js9zml2yt

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Woah

WELL IF LEWIS HAMILTON DID IT

GEE WHIZZ

I DON'T EVEN NEED TO USE MY BRAIN TO THINK ABOUT IT

I'LL COPY LEWIS

Dont worry....your condition is nothing a 12 oz steak wont cure:D

elperello

You need have no concern about Lewis Hamilton's health.

He is as fit as a butchers dog (if you'll forgive the expression).

4068ac1elhodqr

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Just out of interest ... what would be poor quality protein ?

Some plant-based protein sources such as grains, beans, vegetables, and nuts often lack one or more of the essential amino acids. Meat (and egg) based usually have a wider range of amino acids.

chicorytip

Collie D wrote:

I'd imagine he puts his health more at risk by driving around a track at 200mph every second weekend

Not really. You are more likely to die on a golf course than in a Formula One car these days.

Cienciano

EPAndlee

chicorytip wrote: »

Collie D wrote:

I'd imagine he puts his health more at risk by driving around a track at 200mph every second weekend

Not really. You are more likely to die on a golf course than in a Formula One car these days.

That's would probably be true because there's only 20 odd formula one drivers but how many people around the older play golf? Hundreds of thousands? Millions

beertons

Hamilton is just an attention seeker.

What's he gonna say next is anyone's guess.

kylith

If he's done his research then he is not endangering his health.

However:
It is not possible to live on a vegan diet and not need supplements.
Vegan diets are high in air miles and therefore environmentally unsound.
Vegetarianism is as far as anyone need go.

endacl

markjbloggs wrote: »

Well, it is 12 minutes since the OP posted and they have not indicated that they are vegan, so the OP is not vegan.

Probably worn out from lack of good healthy animal protein? Waiting to recover a bit of typing strength?

Outlaw Pete

It's obvious what you're at OP, but it's pointless, we're coming for you.

Lia_lia

That documentary was ridiculous. A load of sh*te.

Some people get so easily swayed by these types of documentaries. I don't get it.

And I say this as someone that doesn't eat meat... :pac:

Lia_lia

kylith wrote: »

If he's done his research then he is not endangering his health.

However:
It is not possible to live on a vegan diet and not need supplements.

My sister is vegan and refuses to take B12 supplements. She says she's "grand". I've had to get shots recently due to low B12 (not diet related) but she still won't listen to me.

Wibbs

chicorytip wrote: »

Not really. You are more likely to die on a golf course than in a Formula One car these days.

Not far off. Long gone are the days of regular mayhem, death and injury in F1. I remember watching it with my dad as a kid in the 70's and crashes and fiery death, or in the case of Niki Laura, fiery death? Fcuk you, were a regular occurrence. Oh and overtaking and drivers with panache and character, not macrobiotic eating midgets with a soulectomy, where pit lane comms are often ore interesting than the processions races. Ditto of the days of Group B rallying, where the men were men - or women like Michelle Mouton, a giant of a driver. Ovaries of steel - and cars were dangerous.

Going further back... Tazio Nouvalari. Being healthy. Earlier.

kylith wrote: »

If he's done his research then he is not endangering his health.

With the money on his arse, you can be sure he's not K, or at least not endangering his revenue stream.

However:
It is not possible to live on a vegan diet and not need supplements.
Vegan diets are high in air miles and therefore environmentally unsound.
Vegetarianism is as far as anyone need go.

This + 1000. Vegetarianism? Cool and a healthy diet. Veganism? Grey area health wise, though clearly better than Chinner dinners washed down with "diet" Coke. Still I have no issue with Veganism itself. I think of it like Electric cars, great, but too many of the drivers of electric cars? God save me from the atomic powered humourless, disapproving and anally retentive fanatics of both camps.

Canis Lupus

OP believes every piece of woo out there going by his post history. He reminds me of a guy I met once who tried to convince me plants were better for me cos sure look at the size of bulls and all they eats is grass.

Eathrin

I haven't seen the documentary but why all the negativity towards him for making this change? Why do people insist on vegetarianism and veganism on being acts of pretentiousness?

In reality;
(1) meat production is one of the largest contributors to climate change
(2) slaughtering animals for food is unnecessarily cruel
(3) one can live a perfectly healthy life as a vegetarian/vegan and often consumption of meat is the direct cause of many health issues inlcuding cancer.
(4) Meat production is an extremely inefficient use of land, energy and resources such as water in a world with ever increasing population

RustyNut

job seeker wrote: »

Chat with local vegans in your area..

They are easy to identify, sunken eyes, bad skin underweight and will be preaching some hippy crap to anyone who will listen.

Wibbs

The vast majority of intelligent animals are meat eaters. The plant eaters are almost always food for same. A bit "trolly"? Yeah, but not far off the truth. Humans became what we are because of a switch from a near exclusively plant based diet to one that included meat. Otherwise we would have remained an odd short arsed bipedal ape with big flat teeth and a fat belly in Africa.

Wibbs

Eathrin wrote: »

I haven't seen the documentary but why all the negativity towards him for making this change? Why do people insist on vegetarianism and veganism on being acts of pretentiousness?

Because E people have found through experience that they usually are acts of preachy pretentiousness, with a side order of holier than thou ballsology thrown in.

Hercule Poirot

Lewis Hamilton has all the charm and charisma of a robot that has fallen into a megablender and doesn't realise it's dead yet

Arghus

Eathrin wrote: »

I haven't seen the documentary but why all the negativity towards him for making this change?

Because it's boards.

meeeeh

I don't overly care what Lewis Hamilton eats and his vegan or non vegan diet is probably very healthy. However he really isn't the sharpest tool in the box. I found it very amusing when he started explaining how is vegan diet much better for the environment and how that influenced his decision. The same man is constantly travelling around in a private jet.

And yes I am a bitter Ferrari fan...

brevity

stimpson wrote: »

I gave up veganism after watching this documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhoHwQ0cwIQ

When I grow up I wanna go to Bovine University.

lazybones32

A vegan? Was that before or after he was eating a pussycat doll every night?

Eathrin

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Probably because of the amount of preachy vegans who think that everyone else is going to have the same life changing epiphany they had after watching some bollocks YouTube documentary. I'm not saying you're coming across that way, that's just what tends to annoy a lot of people about vegans.

Again, I haven't watched this particular documentary, and it could well be complete bollocks, but I think it would be unfair to dismiss any documentary on the subject as such without fair analysis of the facts (or fiction) they present.

1) Fair point, and we do eat too much meat. What happens if we all just stop though? What do we do with all the animals? Would sustainable farmibg methods not be viable?

Well clearly the whole world wouldn't stop eating meat at once so I don't think there would be an issue there with loads of farmers left with a bunch of unusable livestock on their hands. In such a world, I guess farmers would switch to crop farming in the long run.

2) Nature is unnecessarily cruel. Our bodies get more from a mixed and balanced diet. As people mentioned already, protein availability from plant sources is a problem.

I take your point there, nature is cruel and the world is littered with carnivore species. It's worth considering that as the dominant species on the planet and no longer as hunter gatherers, we should have far less dependency on meat as we once did, where food sources may have been more scarce.

It's certainly not impossible to replace the protein requirements, not so much as some would have you believe.

3) One certainly can as a vegetarian, but I've yet to see compelling evidence that one can as a vegan. YouTube documentaries and anecdotes are not compelling evidence. Consumption of too much meat is linked to cancer, sure, but then consumption of too much of a lot of things can be bad for you. The key is balance.

I'm not a vegan but I don't see why we couldn't go without dairy and eggs. Seems to me these are very easily replaced.

4) Meat is also a great source of nutrition for the same growing population though. Again, sustainable farming and balanced diets seem to me to be a more reasonable solution than going all out vegan.

I guess reasonable depends on your worldview. I'm for a future where sea stocks are not depleted to the point of many species' extinction and where climate change hasn't gone past the point of no return due to our overconsumption. I don't know exactly what is required to make this happen but I suspect based on research that I've read that the changes people would have to make to their lifestyles are far more drastic than the majority would be comfortable with.

Do you think people would step up to the challenge or act selfishly when given the choice? In this, and in most things, people tend to act selfishly where they can get away with it and it only helps their cause if the popular opinion is that they are doing nothing wrong.

kylith

Eathrin wrote: »

Well clearly the whole world wouldn't stop eating meat at once so I don't think there would be an issue there with loads of farmers left with a bunch of unusable livestock on their hands. In such a world, I guess farmers would switch to crop farming in the long run.

Not all land is suitable for growing crops, especially as is seen in this country, upland, rocky terrain.

Eathrin wrote: »

I'm not a vegan but I don't see why we couldn't go without dairy and eggs. Seems to me these are very easily replaced.

I'd think that dairy and eggs would be seen as better than eating meat. After all neither causes any harm to the animal.

Eathrin

kylith wrote: »

Not all land is suitable for growing crops, especially as is seen in this country, upland, rocky terrain.

Livestock covers 45% of global land. I'm sure some of it would be suitable for crop production.

https://cgspace.cgiar.org/bitstream/handle/10568/10601/IssueBrief3.pdf


In fact... we wouldn't even need to assign any of this land to crop production. We already grow enough food to feed everyone on earth, extremely comfortably. The problem is that most of this food goes to feeding livestock.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2012/05/08/we-already-grow-enough-food-10-billion-people-and-still-cant-end-hunger

I'd think that dairy and eggs would be seen as better than eating meat. After all neither causes any harm to the animal.

I'd agree with that to an extent, but my question was as to why it is not actually possible to be a healthy vegan if one can be a healthy vegetarian.

Eathrin

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Documentaries aren't a great primary source for stuff like this, IMO. You need years of large scale research to really understand the effects of various diets, and I highly doubt findings as sognificant as this documentary is claiming would go under the radar.

That's true but the average Joe doesn't go reading many research papers and documentaries are a bit more accessible. No problem there if they can back up their claims.

Fair point, but even long term, how do you convince those farmers to just give up their livelihood and switch to something else? I don't disagree at all that our current farming methods are unsustainable, I just don't see a complete u-turn to veganism as the solution.

Yeah I'd say that's a big problem alright. This might require long term planning from the government to facilitate any change comfortably, something I wouldn't hold my breath for.

What are the costs of replacing them? Is it really a viable solution? I'm genuinely not sure on this point.

To the consumer? Much cheaper I'd imagine. For example, a tin of kidney beans or chickpeas would have slightly less protein than a breast of chicken at a fraction of the cost.

What do we replace them with? Do the replacements have the same benefits? Personally I'd be quote happy to replace them in my diet but I don't see any options to that are currently widely available.

Not very easy in this country especially eating out but I think people tend to go for things like soya milk, almond butter, chia seeds etc...

Do you step up to the challenge? Do you avoid the use of electricity? Are you posting this from a sustainably produced device? Drive a car? It's not easy to live in the modern world and not do something that harms the earth. I'm not trying to be a smart ass either, it's a genuine problem and I don't know what we're going to do about it, this is getting off topic and I'm veering into rambling to myself now though.

Absolutely, it's not easy. For all the changes I've made in my life, I'm still a culprit in many ways. I can tell you for certain that if everyone gave up the car and went vegan tomorrow, our world wouldn't be in crisis. That is, of course, an insane suggestion, so what do we do?

Would people think it mad for our government to introduce a meat tax? What about massively increasing motor tax when electric vehicles become more accessible? (Provided adequate investment in green energy plants)