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Ashes 17-18

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    #152
    Tom Mann Centuria
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    This was a very nice story
    http://www.thecricketer.com/default.aspx?pageid=1223&catid=71&topicid=43620

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    #153
    KevIRL
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    England goosed


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    #154
    Gizmo55
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    And that’s that. Such a shame to see England collapse like that after working so hard to get back into the match.


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    #155
    padd b1975
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    Can't see them getting anything in Perth, all over.


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    #156
    StringerBell
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    The collapse is so familiar :D

    Some positives to take forward? Showed fight to take it to the final day and give themselves a sniff after the opening two days I guess.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #157
    Crash Bang Wall
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    They cant keep expecting Broad and Anderson to win matches for them.

    Roots conversion from 50s to 100s is shocking.

    The Batting lacks bottle, they make it look easy against poor Bowling attacks, but regularly fall apart against quality, instaed of digging it out.

    If you take out Roots 67, and Overton and Woakes in the first Innings, the scoring was terrible


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    #158
    threein99
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    England have not won in Perth since 1978, this will be tied up by Christmas.


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    #159
    dinorebel
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    It's the hope that kills you.


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    #160
    Richard Hillman
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    Crash Bang Wall wrote: »
    They cant keep expecting Broad and Anderson to win matches for them.

    Roots conversion from 50s to 100s is shocking.

    The Batting lacks bottle, they make it look easy against poor Bowling attacks, but regularly fall apart against quality, instaed of digging it out.

    If you take out Roots 67, and Overton and Woakes in the first Innings, the scoring was terrible


    It's the one thing that sets himself apart from Kohli and Smith. Smith is pretty much 50:50 to convert. Kohli has a conversation rate of 15 fifties and 20 ton+ scores.

    Root will likely end his career with 50+ average and may even be considered England's greatest ever batsman but he just seems that one notch below the other 2. A bit like everyone versus Messi/Ronaldo.


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    #161
    Beasty
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    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Can't see them getting anything in Perth, all over.
    It's looking bad, but equally this England team have shown they have the talent. Yes it's 40 years since they won there, but you could also look at it as a case of a win is long overdue. Equally in this day and age many more Tests are producing positive results. Who knows Perth could be decided by the toss of the coin

    If they can get the upper hand and win at the WACA we could well be set up for an exciting couple of tests over XMas and the New Year


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    #162
    Tom Mann Centuria
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    Beasty wrote: »
    It's looking bad, but equally this England team have shown they have the talent. Yes it's 40 years since they won there, but you could also look at it as a case of a win is long overdue. Equally in this day and age many more Tests are producing positive results. Who knows Perth could be decided by the toss of the coin

    If they can get the upper hand and win at the WACA we could well be set up for an exciting couple of tests over XMas and the New Year

    Never has a glass been more half full. (if that were possible) It'd be lovely if it panned out like that but I'm more in the two hopes school of thinking.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    #163
    Gizmo55
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    Lyon’s record on the next three pitches, particuarly the last two isn’t great, that’ll make a difference.


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    #164
    MrKingsley
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    Gizmo55 wrote: »
    Lyon’s record on the next three pitches, particuarly the last two isn’t great, that’ll make a difference.

    Possibly but I imagine when he gets to bowl at a load of lefties thatll improve.

    I hope England switch Bairstow back with Ali and tell him to go and attack Lyon in the middle order. Maybe dent his confidence a little.

    Whilst he has been bowling very well all the English players at just blocking in the crease to him non-stop. That just allows him to get into a rhythm and wheel away from one end.


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    #165
    StringerBell
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    Looking forward to seeing Mitch Marsh come in for the next Test. Handscomb will surely be the one to make way, I'd put him in at 6 personally, he is in good touch with the bat. Be nice to be able to have a bit of back up for the seamers too, Lyon probably won't have as much success on a WACA surface.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #166
    StringerBell
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    In most parts of the world pouring a pint over Jimmy Andersons head would be seen as a the right thing to do whatever the circumstance :)

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #167
    Tom Mann Centuria
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    StringerBell wrote: »
    In most parts of the world pouring a pint over Jimmy Andersons head would be seen as a the right thing to do whatever the circumstance :)

    Duckett's been scapegoated. Apparently there were several other players doing exactly the same thing. Fupp em, England's loss is Northants gain.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    #168
    StringerBell
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    Very foolish as a touring squad in general, literally the first night the curfew was relaxed for!

    I dunno, will obviously have no bearing on the Ashes series itself but another but of bad pr for ECB to be dealing with.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #169
    riffmongous
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    It's another unnecessary distraction, imagine being Bayliss having to deal with this crap and the resulting press while you desperately need to focus on the cricket


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    #170
    StringerBell
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    Moving Bairstow up is a good move imo

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #171
    Tom Mann Centuria
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    Andrew Strauss has left the tour, his wife has been diagnosed with cancer.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    #172
    Tom Mann Centuria
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    There was an attempted match fix for upcoming third test apparently.

    https://amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/sun-investigation-smashes-bookies-multimillion-pound-plot-to-rig-third-ashes-test/news-story/b9f9b563b4843d7fd0c8c86e90dace35?__twitter_impression=true

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    #173
    StringerBell
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    Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »
    Andrew Strauss has left the tour, his wife has been diagnosed with cancer.

    Could have sworn I heard he left already, after the first Test I thought. Either way, horrible news and hopefully it is a very treatable form and she makes a full recovery.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #174
    Tom Mann Centuria
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    StringerBell wrote: »
    Could have sworn I heard he left already, after the first Test I thought. Either way, horrible news and hopefully it is a very treatable form and she makes a full recovery.

    He flew home after the 2nd test and isn't coming back. Yeah, dreadful news, hopefully she'll be OK.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    #175
    StringerBell
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    Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »
    There was an attempted match fix for upcoming third test apparently.

    https://amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/sun-investigation-smashes-bookies-multimillion-pound-plot-to-rig-third-ashes-test/news-story/b9f9b563b4843d7fd0c8c86e90dace35?__twitter_impression=true

    Despicable if true, cricket is rife with it unfortunately but I did like to pretend the Ashes were played straight.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #176
    KevIRL
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    162/4 England. No collapse but nothing to get too excited about either. Stoneman wicket was a dodgy one.


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    #177
    s3rtvdbwfj81ch
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    KevIRL wrote: »
    162/4 England. No collapse but nothing to get too excited about either. Stoneman wicket was a dodgy one.

    just over 2 hours later and they look good now, 246/4 and Malan on course for a century.


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    #178
    s3rtvdbwfj81ch
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    Quincy Raspy Hillbilly wrote: »
    Malan on course for a century.

    Oh my god, dropped on the first delivery with a new ball.

    :P


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    #179
    Barney92
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    Excellent session for England. Barring the first couple of overs with the new ball Bairstow and Malan looked really solid and applied themselves throughout. Great to see to be honest.

    Set up very well for the match now. If they can add on 150+ tomorrow theyll have a great chance of getting themselves back into the series


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    #180
    StringerBell
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    KevIRL wrote: »
    162/4 England. No collapse but nothing to get too excited about either. Stoneman wicket was a dodgy one.

    Nothing dodgy at all :confused:

    Clearer and clearer with each replay. Good day for England, Bairstow moving up has to be seen as a successful move too with the partnership.

    They may not actually lose this Test match!

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #181
    KevIRL
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    Some stuff this partnership


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