General Rugby Discussion II

So this is the culmination of Wray's tantrum at having to abide by the same rules as everyone else.

This could actually be the end of Saracens. Utter madness.

jr86

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Interesting times - Reading some articles apparently a load of the squad have "relegation clauses" in their contracts.

That will be an interesting test of loyalty.

They probably all had a good laugh that that clause was even mentioned, given the unlikelihood of it ever transpiring in a month of sundays

Goes to show!

lawrencesummers

There is a meeting this morning at 11am with Sarries players, staff and management. Expect news about 12. Automatic relegation distinct possibility and already decided just allowing time for the club to inform their stakeholders.

prawnsambo

lawrencesummers wrote: »

There is a meeting this morning at 11am with Sarries players, staff and management. Expect news about 12. Automatic relegation distinct possibility and already decided just allowing time for the club to inform their stakeholders.

It was reported last night that the meeting was to be held at 08:30. Where did you get the 11am time from?

lawrencesummers

prawnsambo wrote: »

It was reported last night that the meeting was to be held at 08:30. Where did you get the 11am time from?

A former colleague works in the club

prawnsambo

lawrencesummers wrote: »

A former colleague works in the club

Tough time for him.

Yikes.

https://twitter.com/BrendanVenter/status/1218093635645906945

sydthebeat

Deleted User wrote: »

Yikes.

https://twitter.com/BrendanVenter/status/1218093635645906945

three cheers for brendan venter

lawrencesummers

prawnsambo wrote: »

Tough time for him.

Her.

sydthebeat

sydthebeat wrote: »

three cheers for brendan venter

hahashake

Saw this on the Blues IG and thought it would be interesting here, the Blues outside backs in 2005.


https://www.instagram.com/p/B7Y85vkJXEQ/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

Winters

prawnsambo wrote: »

Well it still would be if it's one out to make room for one in. But yeah, I take your point. The wider issue is whether Saracens can do something similar with (say) French or SA clubs. Although I'd imagine that the SA clubs wouldn't be able to match the kind of salaries that Saracens are paying for their top players.

Unless some corporate sponsor was topping up the salary.. James Roberts' immediate move to Stormers is an interesting development.

Interested Observer

Who is between Rokocoko and Mils?

Winters

Interested Observer wrote: »

Who is between Rokocoko and Mils?

I was stuck on that one myself

thomond2006

Winters wrote: »

I was stuck on that one myself

Rudi Wulf

Quin_Dub

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Here's a question - If Saracens were relegated , Could the still play in the European cup next year if they were to win it this year?

Found the answer to my own question

The answer is no..

So if they relegated, then they are gone from Europe too.

Eod100

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Found the answer to my own question

The answer is no..

So if they relegated, then they are gone from Europe too.

I wonder are rules more based on the assumption that team wouldn't be relegated from their league the same season they won the CC. Don't think there would be any incentive to change them with questions around Saracens success in Europe as a result of salary breach in Premiership, but raises an interesting issue.

lawrencesummers

It’s rare you see dragons fans with anything to sing about

FACECUTTR

https://www.the42.ie/glynn-odonnell-crusaders-rebels-4968812-Jan2020/

Squidgy Black

lawrencesummers wrote: »

It’s rare you see dragons fans with anything to sing about

Dragons have actually put in a handful of performances this season, beat Glasgow, Ospreys Scarlets and Zebre in the league, and beat Castres, Worcester and Enisei in the challenge cup.

Marginal improvement so far, but at least they haven't regressed.

sydthebeat

https://www.facebook.com/crusadersrugby/videos/626244424853454/

Have a look at the try 53:15 into this clip.

Yeah_Right

sydthebeat wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/crusadersrugby/videos/626244424853454/

Have a look at the try 53:15 into this clip.

Great try. Good to see the old man Alex Ainley still hitting rucks and tackling everything at 38 years old. He keeps trying to retire and keeps getting asked to play a few games to cover injuries. The absolute king of workhorse journeyman.

sydthebeat

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Great try. Good to see the old man Alex Ainley still hitting rucks and tackling everything at 38 years old. He keeps trying to retire and keeps getting asked to play a few games to cover injuries. The absolute king of workhorse journeyman.

Crazy to think he's only had 5 years of Super rugby

Just goes to show that if you stick with it, anything could happen

Exclamation Marc

https://twitter.com/premrugby/status/1218616362593026050?s=19

Confirmed that Saracens will be relegated at the end of the season.

RobbieRuns

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Eh, it's not a done deal yet?

Oh yes it is......

Utah_Saint

Billy Vunipola has broken his arm again. Its the forth time he's broken his arm. Either its the way he carries into contact or he has brittle bone disease....

hahashake

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Billy Vunipola has broken his arm again. Its the forth time he's broken his arm. Either its the way he carries into contact or he has brittle bone disease....

Maybe need some "support" under his forearm tape à la Victor Matfield.;)

sydthebeat

Looks like he was never thought "knee hip shoulder"

RugbyLover123

No Simmonds, Willis or Dombrandt in the England squad, despite being all very good this season. Don’t see how Hill and Ludlam have got in ahead of them.

I wonder if Eddie is looking at a back row of Curry, Underhill & Earl. Would be interesting to see.

Exclamation Marc

Rugby 20 is out this week.

I don't really rate RugbyLad as a news source given their blatant article recycling but good to hear that they think that the game is decent and they're impressed by it.

https://twitter.com/RugbyLAD7/status/1219273914217566208?s=19

Fingers crossed its good. Im not expecting miracles so any level of good will do! Lack of some major nations being licensed is very annoying but hopefully they're editable.