Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

BBFAN

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Obviously yes there is.

Please explain further. What exactly is wrong with saying men should be able to control themselves from raping?

goochy

goochy wrote: »

meeeh - its ok for women to whinge but not men - so much for equality - if you dont like whats playing - u can go elsewhere - this forum isnt just for feminazis who worship the kelly one

Banned

tampopo

Uncharted wrote: »

Give me Andrea any day of the week over Ciara Kelly.
I just find her more professional,I can't put my finger on it.

I do too.

the_pen_turner

BBFAN wrote: »

Please explain further. What exactly is wrong with saying men should be able to control themselves from raping?

Nothing wrong with that

That not what she she saying
Noreen blackwell said that if a man and women have sex but the woman has drink taken then its rape but if the woman is sober and the man has drink taken it is still his fault

the_pen_turner

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that

That not what she she saying
Noreen blackwell said that if a man and women have sex but the woman has drink taken then its rape but if the woman is sober and the man has drink taken it is still his fault

Just so we're being fair to Noreen Blackwell here, do you have a date or a link to when this statement was made?

It's slightly unfair to paraphrase someone from memory. I doubt she has said precisely what you've claimed.

the_pen_turner

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Just so we're being fair to Noreen Blackwell here, do you have a date or a link to when this statement was made?

It's slightly unfair to paraphrase someone from memory. I doubt she has said precisely what you've claimed.

i dont unfortunitly. but will try and check.

hotmail.com

the_pen_turner wrote:

That not what she she saying Noreen blackwell said that if a man and women have sex but the woman has drink taken then its rape but if the woman is sober and the man has drink taken it is still his fault

The man does the penetration.

the_pen_turner

hotmail.com wrote: »

The man does the penetration.

that has no bearing on who the rapist would be in a rape case

Tell me how

hotmail.com wrote: »

The man does the penetration.

There are some cases where women have been accused of raping men, but they are vastly in the minority compared to the other way around.

Uncharted

hotmail.com wrote: »

The man does the penetration.

What ???!!!????





Wait till I see my wife !!!

How could she.....

....... I feel violated !

meeeeh

Irish law does not recognise female rape. I don't agree with the law but women can't be found guilty of rape, they can only be found guilty of sexual assault.

BBFAN

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that

That not what she she saying
Noreen blackwell said that if a man and women have sex but the woman has drink taken then its rape but if the woman is sober and the man has drink taken it is still his fault

Nope, that' s a complete lie. What she said was a rape is a rape whether or not either party is drunk.

Do you understand what rape is? I presume you do.

the_pen_turner

BBFAN wrote: »

Nope, that' s a complete lie. What she said was a rape is a rape whether or not either party is drunk.

Do you understand what rape is? I presume you do.

thats not what she said the day i was listning.

why would i make it up.

im well aware of what defines rape



edit
if you have a link to that i will relisten and see if i miss heard her

hotmail.com

the_pen_turner wrote:

thats not what she said the day i was listning.

the_pen_turner wrote:

why would i make it up.

the_pen_turner wrote:

im well aware of what defines rape

the_pen_turner wrote:

edit if you have a link to that i will relisten and see if i miss heard her

Have you been in a position before where you did something dodgy/illegal with a drunk woman?

I just don't understand these type of comments sometimes.

givyjoe

hotmail.com wrote: »

Have you been in a position before where you did something dodgy/illegal with a drunk woman?

I just don't understand these type of comments sometimes.

Have you ever done something dodgy/illegal with a drunk guy? Your comments are far more perplexing to be honest

the_pen_turner

hotmail.com wrote: »

Have you been in a position before where you did something dodgy/illegal with a drunk woman?

I just don't understand these type of comments sometimes.

not sure what my past sex life has got to do with anything.

hotmail.com

givyjoe wrote:

Have you ever done something dodgy/illegal with a drunk guy? Your comments are far more perplexing to be honest

The poster I was replying to doesn't seem to understand the concept of rape.

Here we go again, thread being derailed . Can these petty rows not be taken to PM ? What has some posters sex life got to do with the Lunchtime with Ciara Kelly .....or whatever it’s called . Next thing it all gets out of hand, mod warnings , thread shut down .

hotmail.com

Deleted User wrote:

Here we go again, thread being derailed . Can these petty rows not be taken to PM ? What has some posters sex life got to do with the Lunchtime with Ciara Kelly .....or whatever it’s called . Next thing it all gets out of hand, mod warnings , thread shut down .

Are you trying to derail the derailment?

Uncharted

hotmail.com wrote: »

Are you trying to derail the derailment?

Monorail, Monorail........

Is there a chance the track could bend??

Not a chance,my Hindu friend ..... :pac:

the_pen_turner

hotmail.com wrote: »

The poster I was replying to doesn't seem to understand the concept of rape.

in what way dont i understand.
nothing i have said goes against the definition of rape.

limnam

Listened to her "unscripted" show for the first time.


More car crash radio. Hard to believe this woman is/was a Dr and harder to believe she has a radio show.


Asking if a woman got married to save a relationship because well why do people get married.


"I'm not in the market for a child" regarding foster care. It's like there's not a single thought process going on before engaging vocal chords.

BBFAN

limnam wrote: »

Listened to her "unscripted" show for the first time.


More car crash radio. Hard to believe this woman is/was a Dr and harder to believe she has a radio show.


Asking if a woman got married to save a relationship because well why do people get married.


"I'm not in the market for a child" regarding foster care. It's like there's not a single thought process going on before engaging vocal chords.

I thought that was a valid question to ask and the caller didn't take offence to it or disagree?

sydthebeat

jesus, her treatment to the caller re breathalyzing pregnant woman is absolutely disgraceful.

first off, why give a diatribe at the top of the show about the issue... go to a different issue, then when you come back to the issue go off on the diatribe again ??

secondly, her continuous assumption that anyone promoting this is a man, and a sign of something "paternalistic", is just so bigoted as to be embarrassing... yet.. its her show, her opinion....

why doesnt she be a proper journalist and get someone on the line who is advocating for this????

where was she last august when doctors were advocating for testing pregnant woman for alcohol use?

goochy

ciara at her feminazi best today , as usual had no time for the guy who is pro abortion( and contributes regularly on it ) and was supporting the smoking testing .

Comic Book Guy

sydthebeat wrote: »

jesus, her treatment to the caller re breathalyzing pregnant woman is absolutely disgraceful.

first off, why give a diatribe at the top of the show about the issue... go to a different issue, then when you come back to the issue go off on the diatribe again ??

secondly, her continuous assumption that anyone promoting this is a man, and a sign of something "paternalistic", is just so bigoted as to be embarrassing... yet.. its her show, her opinion....

Totally agree. So condescending through the whole conversation and basically told him his vote on abortion referendum was of absolutely no consequence.
Thought he did a good job of maintaining his composure because she was basically goading him into saying something off the cuff to hammer him on.

meeeeh

I think she is absolutely right and it's ridiculous. Is there no end to controlling people's behavior. Should other family members also be tested because second hand smoke is bad for you too? And that guy is an absolute moron of the highest order. Anyone who knows anything about nicotine addiction will know that people hide it in all sorts of ways. It's not inconceivable women will avoid hospital visits just to avoid the bloody test. My father in law in his seventies will avoid necessary health checks just to avoid conversation about his smoking habits.

sydthebeat

meeeeh wrote: »

I think she is absolutely right and it's ridiculous. Is there no end to controlling people's behavior. Should other family members also be tested because second hand smoke is bad for you too?

youre COMPLETELY missing the point !!!!!!!!

im not debating the issue, im calling her out on her disgraceful treatment of a caller, in which should could do nothing to counter his argument but treat him in a completely contemptful manner.

limnam

sydthebeat wrote: »

youre COMPLETELY missing the point !!!!!!!!

im not debating the issue, im calling her out on her disgraceful treatment of a caller, in which should could do nothing to counter his argument but treat him in a completely contemptful manner.

It's amazing how people blindly miss the point on this.



You can be "right" and professional.

sydthebeat

meeeeh wrote: »

It's not inconceivable women will avoid hospital visits just to avoid the bloody test.

there is no judgement here, other than the womans judgement of herself (if she chooses to hide it, she must be ashamed of it)

its purely a clinical matter in order to diagnose the proper clinical pathway to put her on.... why would a woman not want that for herself?