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The Hard Shoulder with Ivan Yates (interregnum)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,521 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Stoolcup wrote: »
    Well, you don't need any expertise to comment on political, moral, ethical matters. Why would I even attempt to discuss climate science. It would be like me trying to discuss quantum theory. It's not going to happen

    Actually, you know what. I think its good you've recognized your limitations and aren't going to discuss it further.


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Conservative


    Yisser mad for the rows round here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Dick Swiveller


    Actually, you know what. I think its good you've recognized your limitations and aren't going to discuss it further.

    Thank you. You should too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    Stoolcup wrote: »
    Well, you don't need any expertise to comment on political, moral, ethical matters

    A political scientist or a moral philosopher would disagree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Dick Swiveller


    A political scientist or a moral philosopher would disagree.

    I'm sure they would. They tend to complicate simple matters. I studied political science in college and 90 per cent of it is piffle.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Conservative


    Henry McKean. The Jeremy Kyle of Irish radio! Cretin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    Anyone remember when "The Novel Traveller" did literary themed travel advice, to the extent of suggesting appropriate books to read or bring?

    That USP didn't last long... Now it's just another generic travel slot with an annoying squeak in the voice.

    At least yer man Monkey McGann or whatever knew a bit about his suggestions, rather than getting caught out just doing research from the destination's website and admitting never having actually been there (some Irish gastro-hotel a few weeks back...)


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,745 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Yeats having a great interview now with a snowflake apologist.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,521 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    BPKS wrote: »
    Yeats having a great interview now with a snowflake apologist.

    I laughed at the program intro when he said "We'll be talking about millenials who are sick of us calling them snowflakes the poor creatures."

    Didn't hear the piece though but I imagine he's actively trying to rise them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,741 ✭✭✭withless


    Who was that dopey doctor who was on this evening discussing the health issues?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭Aska


    withless wrote:
    Who was that dopey doctor who was on this evening discussing the health issues?


    Didn't hear tonights show but was she an american wan? Kara or something


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Aska wrote: »
    Didn't hear tonights show but was she an american wan? Kara or something

    Cara is the lady who Yates has on every week to feign interest in environmental issues.

    http://www.caraaugustenborg.com


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    withless wrote: »
    Who was that dopey doctor who was on this evening discussing the health issues?

    Babe Ruth wouldn't hold a candle to him ( with all the batting he did for nurses)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭jay0109


    A nurse on arguing with Yates that they don't get a fair shout in the media. He's not doing himself any favours either with his attempts at explaining the shifts he works i.e. 13 days a month of 13 hours a shift


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,745 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    jay0109 wrote: »
    A nurse on arguing with Yates that they don't get a fair shout in the media. He's not doing himself any favours either with his attempts at explaining the shifts he works i.e. 13 days a month of 13 hours a shift

    And apparently there was 5, nearly 6 weeks in January according to the murse.

    When I did the "30 days has September" rhyme in my head, I didnt get to the bit where it said "All the rest have 31 expect January which has somewhere between 35 and 42".


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BPKS wrote: »
    And apparently there was 5, nearly 6 weeks in January according to the murse.

    When I did the "30 days has September" rhyme in my head, I didnt get to the bit where it said "All the rest have 31 expect January which has somewhere between 35 and 42".
    30 days has Sepember,
    April, June and November
    All the rest have 31.
    Except for January.

    January has 35
    All depends on the public purse,
    According to a Gard, a Nurse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,936 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Ivan letting Edwina Currie run rings around him again spouting absolute nonsense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,521 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Ivan letting Edwina Currie run rings around him again spouting absolute nonsense.

    Pat Kenny is the only one who can keep that one anywhere near reality.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,521 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I thought he handled the interview with the lady with Motor Neurone Disease quite well.
    Such a horrendous disease.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ivan Yates going through Cllr Daithi Doolan (SF) for a shortcut now, regarding their hypocrisy on the property tax whilst claiming to be socialists.

    Ivan's dead right.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    Ivan Yates going through Cllr Daithi Doolan (SF) for a shortcut now, regarding their hypocrisy on the property tax whilst claiming to be socialists.

    Ivan's dead right.

    It's easy to hurl from the ditch. Sinn Fein are full of bluster. Populist nonsense with no forethought.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Uncharted wrote: »
    It's easy to hurl from the ditch. Sinn Fein are full of bluster. Populist nonsense with no forethought.

    Bit like Yates so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,521 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Bit like Yates so.

    He was the 5th youngest member of all time elected to Dail Eireann, he was a government minister, he operated a nationwide chain of bookies before it ultimately failed, and he has proven to be a highly popular radio host.

    He has walked a lot of walks in fairness to him. (But yes, he does like to use soundbites from time to time)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    He was the 5th youngest member of all time elected to Dail Eireann, he was a government minister, he operated a nationwide chain of bookies before it ultimately failed, and he has proven to be a highly popular radio host.

    He has walked a lot of walks in fairness to him. (But yes, he does like to use soundbites from time to time)

    He's a fcuking dose. When he worked with donoghue on the breakfast show, they bounced off each other. On his own, he's too much.

    By the way, not sure if he meant to let it slip so much but last week, he mentioned how his last 2 car purchases between 30 - 40k were made from bets on horses. How much money would you have to be laying down to win those amounts..?? A few grand I would say.....this from a guy who took off to the UK to declare himself bankrupt..


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Uncharted wrote: »
    It's easy to hurl from the ditch. Sinn Fein are full of bluster. Populist nonsense with no forethought.
    He was suggesting instead a wealth tax on the assets like private airplanes... Thing about airplanes, Dáithí, they're quite mobile.

    And even if you tried to impose a tax on wealth outside the country, that's fraught with difficulty. Even Denis O'Brien is registered for tax as a Malteser.


  • Site Banned Posts: 160 ✭✭dermo888


    UsBus wrote: »
    He's a fcuking dose. When he worked with donoghue on the breakfast show, they bounced off each other. On his own, he's too much.

    By the way, not sure if he meant to let it slip so much but last week, he mentioned how his last 2 car purchases between 30 - 40k were made from bets on horses. How much money would you have to be laying down to win those amounts..?? A few grand I would say.....this from a guy who took off to the UK to declare himself bankrupt..

    He went to the UK to declare himself bankrupt because at the time, Irish Bankruptcy laws were draconian. Would'nt you do it in his circumstances?

    As for how much you'd have to be laying down, he still has a bookmakers licence, and to take that kind of money, its impossible to say, beyond this, he knows the game inside out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    He was suggesting instead a wealth tax on the assets like private airplanes... Thing about airplanes, Dáithí, they're quite mobile.

    And even if you tried to impose a tax on wealth outside the country, that's fraught with difficulty. Even Denis O'Brien is registered for tax as a Malteser.



    Wealth taxes only work on people who aren't quite wealthy enough to have advisors ' arrange their affairs elsewhere ' .


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Uncharted wrote: »
    Wealth taxes only work on people who aren't quite wealthy enough to have advisors ' arrange their affairs elsewhere ' .
    I think they can work depending on how robust is the finance legislation in a particular jurisdiction.

    But after decades of enabling (or at least being ambivalent towards) tax avoidance by high-income earners, our legislation would need a massive overhaul to cope with any meaningful wealth tax.

    And in doing so, we might only be shooting off our nose to spite our face. The fundamental design of our economy would need to change too, to be less at risk of capital flight.

    One thing that will work, however, is to tax property. There is no reasonable justification for any so-caglled socialist to oppose this, especially when there are safeguards built in for the poorest home-owners (which there are).


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    I think they can work depending on how robust is the finance legislation in a particular jurisdiction.

    But after decades of enabling (or at least being ambivalent towards) tax avoidance by high-income earners, our legislation would need a massive overhaul to cope with any meaningful wealth tax.

    And in doing so, we might only be shooting off our nose to spite our face. The fundamental design of our economy would need to change too, to be less at risk of capital flight.

    One thing that will work, however, is to tax property. There is no reasonable justification for any so-caglled socialist to oppose this, especially when there are safeguards built in for the poorest home-owners (which there are).

    Paul Murphy on line 2 :pac:


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Uncharted wrote: »
    Paul Murphy on line 2 :pac:

    Don't get me started on Paul Murphy. In fact, I don't know why most of the so-called socialists in Dáil Éireann don't Just join Sinn Féin. They're totally indistinguishable, all more populist than socialist.

    Even Joe Higgins, whose socialist credentials can hardly be doubted, was prone to this sort of populist behaviour.


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