BMW GSA 1200

needy111

Hi..... Ive got a 2015 vfr800 and was looking to change.
I've looked at the Multistrada the 09 Tracer and the GS 1200.
The Ducati has been nocked off the list, after a test ride....
Ive ridden the GS but not the GSA.....I'm a bit worried that the GSA will be too heavy and a pain to move around by hand
Can anyone give me advise .
I'm 6' 2" and 55yrs old

colm_c

needy111 wrote: »

Hi..... Ive got a 2015 vfr800 and was looking to change.
I've looked at the Multistrada the 09 Tracer and the GS 1200.
The Ducati has been nocked off the list, after a test ride....
Ive ridden the GS but not the GSA.....I'm a bit worried that the GSA will be too heavy and a pain to move around by hand
Can anyone give me advise .
I'm 6' 2" and 55yrs old

It's not much heavier than the GS unloaded, but with a full fuel tank it's a different story.

Are you looking to wheel it into a tight spot?

I'd also look at the S1000XR, its more a competitor to the multi than the GS/GSA. I think the XR will be my next bike.

Paulw

colm_c wrote: »

It's not much heavier than the GS unloaded, but with a full fuel tank it's a different story.

I'd also look at the S1000XR, its more a competitor to the multi than the GS/GSA. I think the XR will be my next bike.

I'd have to agree there. The XR looks lovely. I am very tempted by it. :rolleyes:

The GS and GSA are mainly separated by a larger tank, and a few other bits. But, the fuel weight would be the main weight difference to consider.

I've an 800GSA and you can really feel the difference between full tank and low fuel when moving it by hand.

stewygriffin

The XR is a cracker of a bike. Its a great allrounder.
2 of the marshals in Mondello use them for trackdays.

Book a test ride with Joe Duffy BMW and go have fun with it.

GBX

Also check out the XTZ1200 Super Tenere

LLewellen Farquarson

And dare I say it, the Crossrunner and Crosstourer.

needy111

no real tight spots, just general moving of the bike.... on and off the centre stand, back and forward if turning it in the garage.
When I rode my mates GS, I found it heavy when I took it of the stand and pushed it back...... I think its made me worried when he said you would find it hard to move the GSA on a tight circle on the drive, because its so heavy and so easy for it to go on you !

needy111

I have the chance to PX the 2015 vfr 800 for a 2010 gsa..... its a massive difference in weight, but if I ride the vfr for more than half an hour I get pins and needles in the hands :-(

frozenfrozen

pins and needles from vibes or from the position of your hands?

massive bar ends, renthal soft grey grips, & get your front wheel balanced and you could be good as new if it's pins and needles from vibrations

needy111

frozenfrozen wrote: »

pins and needles from vibes or from the position of your hands?

massive bar ends, renthal soft grey grips, & get your front wheel balanced and you could be good as new if it's pins and needles from vibrations

Its not vibration, I think its the wrists ?

frozenfrozen

needy111 wrote: »

Its not vibration, I think its the wrists ?

ok you could always look at getting bar risers and to change the angle of your brake and clutch levers to see if you can get your hand and arm to be in more of a straight line which will take stress off your wrist

wouldn't cost much to try it if you like your vfr and it's just the wrist pain

Cienciano

I don't think there's too much of a difference between the gs and gsa when moving them about. But I'd go for a gsa, the tank gives you protection, sort of like a touring bike without fairings. Extra range is no harm too.

blade1

What was wrong with the Tracer?

EyeCake

I have owned a GSA for 6 years and a GS for 4 years before.
The GSA is only slightly heavier but offers more in comfort and weather protection and better suspension.
Its only when its stopped you notice the weight but I am turning 65 and can still manage fine.
I have been looking for a smaller and lighter endure type bike and have tried many but none ticked all the boxes to replace the GSA.
The BMW XR was a great bike for city or shorter journeys but revs too highly to be relaxing for a long journey
BMW 800 GS is only a little lighter and still very tall.
I quite liked the Triumph 800's but would worry slightly about reliability and resale value.
I just didn't like the Versys, maybe not endure enough for me.
Last week I tried 2 Honda CB500X with 2 different levels of rally raid suspension conversions and enjoyed it very much driving around the Wicklow mountains and I will be ordering one next year. Admittedly it will have much less wind and weather protection but you can't have everything.
If anyone is looking for 08 GSA with full BMW service history,ESA suspension, BMW alarm, new tyres 2000 km , 3 Touratech Boxes with BMW inner bags, BMW Tank Bag, Garmin Zumo 550 with lifetime Europe Maps private message me.

needy111

blade1 wrote: »

What was wrong with the Tracer?

I liked the tracer.... nice to ride and also the BM.
The BM feels like a substantial bike for your money.....
Ive actually just bought the GSA 2010.!!!!
Very comfy , after 2hrs riding, and still doing the twisties.
Although I need to get used to how far away the road is when you top and put the feet down !!!

needy111

Thanks to you all for your in put....
I did a PX with the vfr for a 2010 gs a.
Very happy with the choice.

Synthol

It just has to be bmw doesn't it? No other bikes exist.

needy111

Synthol wrote: »

It just has to be bmw doesn't it? No other bikes exist.

..... That's like one of the vfr owners said......" you may say goodbye to being a biker, if you buy the BM " !!!!!!
I hope it is the best bike Ive ever ridden... Only time will tell.
All I can say, is I chose it over the Multistrada and the Tracer.... and for the few miles Ive done on it....... I love it .

duskyjoe

GBX wrote: »

Also check out the XTZ1200 Super Tenere

Yes, I'm in the same boat and what's hold my back from the super tenere is no bloody heat grips. This is a must for our winters imo.

650Ginge

duskyjoe wrote: »

Yes, I'm in the same boat and what's hold my back from the super tenere is no bloody heat grips. This is a must for our winters imo.

Heated gloves are much better than heated grips.

Synthol

needy111 wrote: »

..... That's like one of the vfr owners said......" you may say goodbye to being a biker, if you buy the BM " !!!!!!
I hope it is the best bike Ive ever ridden... Only time will tell.
All I can say, is I chose it over the Multistrada and the Tracer.... and for the few miles Ive done on it....... I love it .

And have you tried the others?

gerrowadat

Synthol wrote: »

It just has to be bmw doesn't it? No other bikes exist.

Awful snobby for a lad going on about snobby bmw owners aren't we?

Cienciano

Synthol wrote: »

It just has to be bmw doesn't it? No other bikes exist.

They do make some nice bikes in fairness.

Paulw

gerrowadat wrote: »

Awful snobby for a lad going on about snobby bmw owners aren't we?

But sure he rides a super busa. Nothing else is good enough.

Synthol

Cienciano wrote: »

They do make some nice bikes in fairness.

True but bmw is not the only manufacturer of motorbikes in the world so much so that any other manufacturers are not even considered, because "bmw is the best". Motorbikes are performance machines so performance is most important when choosing a motorbike.

Synthol

Paulw wrote: »

But sure he rides a super busa. Nothing else is good enough.

I like many other motorbikes including the s1000rr.

Synthol

gerrowadat wrote: »

Awful snobby for a lad going on about snobby bmw owners aren't we?

Says the man who regularly overpays the dealer for their services because anything else is not good enough.

Cienciano

Synthol wrote: »

True but bmw is not the only manufacturer of motorbikes in the world so much so that any other manufacturers are not even considered, because "bmw is the best". Motorbikes are performance machines so performance is most important when choosing a motorbike.

LOL, no, not really. Loads of things to consider, performance may be right down the list of some people, might not even be a consideration for a lot of people. Anyway, OP considered other bikes but wants a GS.

needy111

Synthol wrote: »

And have you tried the others?

Yes. tried the Ducati/ Yam and then the GS/ GS TE and then the GSA....
Personal choice... the GSA..... gives all I'm looking for ;-):D

Paulw

Synthol wrote: »

Motorbikes are performance machines so performance is most important when choosing a motorbike.

What a load of rubbish. Performance is one factor. There are MANY other factors - fuel economy, comfort, stability, etc. Some want bikes to ride two up, some want to carry gear, some want a touring bike, some want an adventure bike, some want a simple commuter. If performance was most important, there would be very limited choice in bikes.

I know, I know ... I shouldn't feed the super busa troll.

Synthol

Paulw wrote: »

What a load of rubbish. Performance is one factor. There are MANY other factors - fuel economy, comfort, stability, etc. Some want bikes to ride two up, some want to carry gear, some want a touring bike, some want an adventure bike, some want a simple commuter. If performance was most important, there would be very limited choice in bikes.

I know, I know ... I shouldn't feed the super busa troll.

Comfort, fuel economy, stability? Sounds like the features of a car to me.

galwaytt

Synthol wrote: »

Comfort, fuel economy, stability? Sounds like the features of a car to me.

Sounds like you're talking nonsense tbh.

No one buys on performance alone : if they did there'd be nothing on the road bar R1/Fireblade etc Patently this is not the case.

Cienciano

galwaytt wrote: »

Sounds like you're talking nonsense tbh.

No one buys on performance alone : if they did there'd be nothing on the road bar R1/Fireblade etc Patently this is not the case.

We'd all be on s1000rr. A bmw! It's a vicious circle Synthol

Cienciano

BTW, needy111, if you need any info on a GS, head over to http://www.ukgser.com/forums/

Loads of info there, really useful site.

Beta Ray Bill

Synthol wrote: »

Comfort, fuel economy, stability? Sounds like the features of a car to me.

You need Comfort, fuel economy, stability for mile muncher bikes.

If you ever go touring you'll see then that these things are important.

A week covering 2500 KM's on an SV650S though me that lesson

gerrowadat

Synthol wrote: »

Says the man who regularly overpays the dealer for their services because anything else is not good enough.

Naw, it's because I'm lazy and my time is worth money. Plus the last thing the dealer did for me cost me €0. Fork seal, done under goodwill because they shouldn't go so early. Try getting that out of some amateur in a lockup.

Lumen

Cienciano wrote: »

We'd all be on s1000rr. A bmw! It's a vicious circle Synthol

Feck your BMW I'd have a Tuono outside. :pac:

Synthol

grahambo wrote: »

You need Comfort, fuel economy, stability for mile muncher bikes.

If you ever go touring you'll see then that these things are important.

A week covering 2500 KM's on an SV650S though me that lesson

So that's why you have an s1000rr? (which I would destroy) for comfort?
You literally bought a bike with one of the most aggressive riding positions and you are here talking about how you need a comfortable bike. Man you are hypocritical af.

Synthol

gerrowadat wrote: »

Naw, it's because I'm lazy and my time is worth money. Plus the last thing the dealer did for me cost me €0. Fork seal, done under goodwill because they shouldn't go so early. Try getting that out of some amateur in a lockup.

You didn't pay €0. The other times you paid thousands covered that. I've seen your videos.

gerrowadat

Synthol wrote: »

You didn't pay €0. The other times you paid thousands covered that. I've seen your videos.

Some day you must show me these receipts for thousands.

Beta Ray Bill

Synthol wrote: »

So that's why you have an s1000rr? (which I would destroy) for comfort?
You literally bought a bike with one of the most aggressive riding positions and you are here talking about how you need a comfortable bike. Man you are hypocritical af.

I don't do touring on my bike, I have a 10 min drive to work and a spin on the weekend.
And btw the riding position is not as aggressive as say the zx10r, R1, Fireblade etc.

How would you destroy my bike? I'm interested to hear.

Paulw

gerrowadat wrote: »

Some day you must show me these receipts for thousands.

I have a receipt for thousands for my BMW - the receipt from the day I bought it. That was the ONLY one. :rolleyes:

But, I'm sure his turbo super busa cost nothing ... I doubt they need hard cash for an imaginary bike.

Beta Ray Bill

Paulw wrote: »

I have a receipt for thousands for my BMW - the receipt from the day I bought it. That was the ONLY one. :rolleyes:

But, I'm sure his turbo super busa cost nothing ... I doubt they need hard cash for an imaginary bike.

Oh it's a Turbo Busa

In fairness they are pretty decent in a straight line.
Probably cost way more all in than my S1000RR.

Zascar

Synthol almost all your posts are getting reported. Knock it of or find yourself banned. Last Warning.

Synthol

Zascar wrote: »

Synthol almost all your posts are getting reported. Knock it of or find yourself banned. Last Warning.

You disagree with someone = reported. So if someone reports you, then it doesn't matter what you actually write as long at its reported. No question asked.

Synthol

grahambo wrote: »

I don't do touring on my bike, I have a 10 min drive to work and a spin on the weekend.
And btw the riding position is not as aggressive as say the zx10r, R1, Fireblade etc.

How would you destroy my bike? I'm interested to hear.

Drive? So you're a weekend rider?

Lumen

Synthol wrote: »

Drive? So you're a weekend rider?

Point of order: driving includes riding according to the 1961 Road Traffic Act.

Law wrote:

“driving” includes managing and controlling and, in relation to a bicycle or tricycle, riding, and “driver” and other cognate words shall be construed accordingly;

This is how it's possible to get a careless driving conviction for executing a punishment overtake on your main mode of transport:

Beta Ray Bill

Synthol wrote: »

Drive? So you're a weekend rider?

Nope, 5700km's on the clock already and only 6 months old!

Lumen wrote: »

Point of order: driving includes riding according to the 1961 Road Traffic Act.

Boom!

You strike me as fairly angry/aggressive person Synthol, In fact you PM'd me there a while back stating that I should think I should go to Prison for eating meat.

I think you need to calm down, and I mean REALLY clam down.

If you want to disagree, then disagree but lose the aggression me thinks

stewygriffin

Jesus Christ Allmighty,yet another thread ruined by aggressive posting and of mocking nature.

This really is getting out of hand now.

Can we stick to helping out the OP please.



OP....please do continue to post and let us know how you get on.
Thanks.

secman

A friend of mine bought a bmw 1200 bike for his 50th , got it in the uk, still has uk plates on it, it's been garaged since he bought it, he's 61 in just over a week..... bike only has 700 miles on the clock. Keep telling him he's mad and should offload it, can't see him ever getting on it. Beauty of a bike, immaculate. Don't even know if he turns engine over of late as battery is long dead 😎

Zascar

Synthol as already mentioned your aggressive nature has been noted a number of times by several different posters across several different threads. It's not how we operate around here so either cut it out or find another forum.

Back on topic please.