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No bollards top of Grafton Street- possible terrorist attack?
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26-08-2017 1:53pm#1
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Richard Hillman wrote: »No, we'll wait until after the attack to sort it.
Better than fortifications that aren't required or needed
Walls or bollards won't stop any attack
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Has to be the most idiotic post I've read today.
I might have to take this back because there's a lot of stiff competition in this thread.A waste of time and money ,close one Street off you have to close all Streets in every town and city
No, you can close off one street and not close off any others if you want to. So obvious I feel stupid even saying it.
But Grafton street and Henry street are basically the only streets in the capital which pose a significant risk. Of course you could always just mount the kerb and hit some pedestrians, but there's a lamppost or bus stop or bin every few feet so you wouldn't get very far. You could drive the whole way down Grafton street and hit nothing but people.jamesthepeach wrote: »A car would never make it the when way down Grafton street. It's too packed. So many people that a car would be stopped by the pile of people in front of it before it got 50 feet.
That's pure bollocks from someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. Have you ever seen someone get hit by a car? It's a 2 tonne projectile. If it's even going 30 km/h it's going to toss you in the air like a rag doll or roll right over you.
Imagine this happening on Grafton street on a packed day where there's barely enough room to walk never mind get out of the way of a car travelling at speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC0OD8vEWLswordofwarning wrote: »IMO DCC are not too worried about terrorist attacks as all these attacks involving trucks had speed. The congestion in Dublin is so horrific, it will be difficult to gain enough speed to cause serious damage. The traffic crawls anywhere within 10 mins of Henry St/Grafton St
Not only is what you're saying not true on several fronts, the Nice attacker slowed down several times and traffic is actually alright between about 10 and 3 on weekdays. It doesn't take much of a run up to get to 50km/h. It's also a very bizarre rationale as to why the council wouldn't be worried about terrorism. Because traffic.what do you think the wannabe terrorist will do if they put these in place - just drive into the bollards anyway and say "d'oh"? They'll go somewhere else where there's no bollards. Vehicles interact with pedestrians on nearly every road in the country.
They'll go somewhere else where there's no bollards and also less people. Far less people. There's no space in Dublin where as many people are exposed as on the two main shopping streets.0 -
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I might have to take this back because there's a lot of stiff competition in this thread.
No, you can close off one street and not close off any others if you want to. So obvious I feel stupid even saying it.
But Grafton street and Henry street are basically the only streets in the capital which pose a significant risk.
I believe your Actually wrong ,
Bollards won't stop a Terrorist attack on any street ,
I seem to remember an incident when someone drove up Henry Street hitting pedestrians years back ,
And yet nobody needed bollards or other defences built to make sure it doesn't happen again ,
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Harry Palmr wrote: »Look if mass murder was the intent, all you need is two or three knife wielding IS boarding the LUAS and attacking between stops one from each end of a carriage
Your dead right and going by the Irish mentality of if someone is been attacked /assaulted just stand back and watch ,
One determined person could easily kill 5 -10 or more with a single knife on a luas ,dart ,train , Street or shopping centre ,
And that's before you get to person /s with a rifle or explosives
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I might have to take this back because there's a lot of stiff competition in this thread.
No, you can close off one street and not close off any others if you want to. So obvious I feel stupid even saying it.
But Grafton street and Henry street are basically the only streets in the capital which pose a significant risk. Of course you could always just mount the kerb and hit some pedestrians, but there's a lamppost or bus stop or bin every few feet so you wouldn't get very far. You could drive the whole way down Grafton street and hit nothing but people.
That's pure bollocks from someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. Have you ever seen someone get hit by a car? It's a 2 tonne projectile. If it's even going 30 km/h it's going to toss you in the air like a rag doll or roll right over you.
Imagine this happening on Grafton street on a packed day where there's barely enough room to walk never mind get out of the way of a car travelling at speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC0OD8vEWLs
Not only is what you're saying not true on several fronts, the Nice attacker slowed down several times and traffic is actually alright between about 10 and 3 on weekdays. It doesn't take much of a run up to get to 50km/h. It's also a very bizarre rationale as to why the council wouldn't be worried about terrorism. Because traffic.
They'll go somewhere else where there's no bollards and also less people. Far less people. There's no space in Dublin where as many people are exposed as on the two main shopping streets.
I think your sarcasm detector is faulty. Please get it looked at.0 -
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