Mandela effect

Wexfordboy89

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory

Anybody ever hear of this before.I for a long time thought in the movie Forrest gump in probably the most famous since in the movie thought he said "momma always said life is like a box of chocolates".but he actually says "momma always said life was like a box of chocolates.anyone else have an example of something they thought happened/was said but the opposite actually happened/was said.

maudgonner

Play it again, Sam.

me_irl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGgUrj10HdM

Donald Trump

(I couldn't find a clip of his joke about Nelson's column)

I just saw the word Mandela and forgot about that is was referring to the "Mandela effect"

Wexfordboy89

maudgonner wrote: »

Play it again, Sam.

Lol heres the video
https://youtu.be/CJh59vZ8ccc

Your Face

Free Winnie Mandela.

SCOOP 64

Wexfordboy89 wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory

Anybody ever hear of this before.I for a long time thought in the movie Forrest gump in probably the most famous since in the movie thought he said "momma always said life is like a box of chocolates".but he actually says "momma always said life was like a box of chocolates.anyone else have an example of something they thought happened/was said but the opposite actually happened/was said.

Read this twice now, cant see the difference.
third time i got it ,not much in it.

wonderboysam

I used to think Mandela was the guy with the great voice narrating the movies I was watching

Are Am Eye

Mandela's deepest fear quote which you might know from Coach Carter is something he never said.

Annasopra

Tiswas?

Donald Trump

Your Face wrote: »

Free Winnie Mandela.

Do I need to collect tokens?

Donald Trump

wonderboysam wrote: »

I used to think Mandela was the guy with the great voice narrating the movies I was watching

You're not the only one

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nelson-mandela/10529952/Morgan-Freeman-mistaken-for-Nelson-Mandela-on-Indian-billboard.html

Realt Dearg Sec

There's loads of famous phrases from TV and movies that were never said in the original shows.

Someone already mentioned "Play it again, Sam".

Beam me up Scotty!
Luke, I am your father.
Elementary my dear Watson.
Mirror mirror on the wall (it's magic mirror).
The word Ewok never occurs in Return of the Jedi.

I'm not sure why these happened. There are good examples from history that are very telling. When interviewing older Irish people for an oral history project, a historian found that many of the subjects being interviewed would vividly recall the Black and Tans breaking down the doors to search for IRA men. This despite the fact that virtually all of the subjects were born AFTER 1921, and couldn't have had any memories of such raids at all. It probably reflects how deeply ingrained in Irish historical memory and consciousness the Black and Tans were, and how common the stories were in their upbringing, that the subjects genuinely believed these were some of their earliest memories. And it really, really makes you wonder how reliable our own memories are.

Donald Trump

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

There's loads of famous phrases from TV and movies that were never said in the original shows.

Someone already mentioned "Play it again, Sam".

Beam me up Scotty!
Luke, I am your father.
Elementary my dear Watson.
Mirror mirror on the wall (it's magic mirror).
The word Ewok never occurs in Return of the Jedi.

I'm not sure why these happened. There are good examples from history that are very telling. When interviewing older Irish people for an oral history project, a historian found that many of the subjects being interviewed would vividly recall the Black and Tans breaking down the doors to search for IRA men. This despite the fact that virtually all of the subjects were born AFTER 1921, and couldn't have had any memories of such raids at all. It probably reflects how deeply ingrained in Irish historical memory and consciousness the Black and Tans were, and how common the stories were in their upbringing, that the subjects genuinely believed these were some of their earliest memories. And it really, really makes you wonder how reliable our own memories are.

"ride me sideways" was another one

jacksie66

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Your Face

Donald Trump wrote: »

Do I need to collect tokens?

No, she's free with gimmick accounts.

The_Valeyard

The misquote: Do you feel lucky, punk?

The quote: Being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?





The misquote: Hello, Clarice…

The quote: Good evening, Clarice…



The misquote: I don’t think we’re in Kansas anymore, Toto

The quote: Toto, I’ve got a feeling we’re not in Kansas anymore

Wexfordboy89

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

There's loads of famous phrases from TV and movies that were never said in the original shows.

Someone already mentioned "Play it again, Sam".

Beam me up Scotty!
Luke, I am your father.
Elementary my dear Watson.
Mirror mirror on the wall (it's magic mirror).
The word Ewok never occurs in Return of the Jedi.

I'm not sure why these happened. There are good examples from history that are very telling. When interviewing older Irish people for an oral history project, a historian found that many of the subjects being interviewed would vividly recall the Black and Tans breaking down the doors to search for IRA men. This despite the fact that virtually all of the subjects were born AFTER 1921, and couldn't have had any memories of such raids at all. It probably reflects how deeply ingrained in Irish historical memory and consciousness the Black and Tans were, and how common the stories were in their upbringing, that the subjects genuinely believed these were some of their earliest memories. And it really, really makes you wonder how reliable our own memories are.

Think the forrest gump one probably comes from what it said on the back of the Vhs tape at the time.it had the line "momma always said life is like a box of chocolates.in the movie itself he says "momma always said life was like a box of chocolates.although I did find a video on youtube where it show tom hanks character saying the line "momma always said life is like a box of chocolates.lol confusing a bit

Realt Dearg Sec

Wexfordboy89 wrote: »

Think the forrest gump one probably comes from what it said on the back of the Vhs tape at the time.it had the line "momma always said life is like a box of chocolates.in the movie itself he says "momma always said life was like a box of chocolates.although I did find a video on youtube where it show tom hanks character saying the line "momma always said life is like a box of chocolates.lol confusing a bit

I dunno if the is/was thing constitutes a significant difference anyway. Far more important is what a stupid line that is to begin with.

Wexfordboy89

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

I dunno if the is/was thing constitutes a significant difference anyway. Far more important is what a stupid line that is to begin with.

Lol ya true I suppose was just one that came to mind

Donald Trump

Your Face wrote: »

No, she's free with gimmick accounts.

What do all the poor non-gimmick accounts get then?

Because I assume that all other accounts here are serious intellectual endeavors :pac:

Benjamin Buttons

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Tiswas?

Was (Not Was)

batistuta9

ok houston, we've had a problem here is what the astronaut said not we have a problem

twill

batistuta9 wrote: »

ok houston, we've had a problem here is what the astronaut said not we have a problem

The film Apollo 13 changed the line to ""we have a problem" for dramatic effect.

Riddle101

Misquote:"We're gonna need a bigger boat"
Actual quote: "You're gonna need a bigger boat"

odyssey06

I wonder if this is how languages evolve... our brains are auto-correcting word combinations into an easier to remember \ pronounce form...

Wexfordboy89

Riddle101 wrote: »

Misquote:"We're gonna need a bigger boat"
Actual quote: "You're gonna need a bigger boat"

Jaws I actually thought I was we're gonna need

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

I'm not sure why these happened. There are good examples from history that are very telling. When interviewing older Irish people for an oral history project, a historian found that many of the subjects being interviewed would vividly recall the Black and Tans breaking down the doors to search for IRA men. This despite the fact that virtually all of the subjects were born AFTER 1921, and couldn't have had any memories of such raids at all. It probably reflects how deeply ingrained in Irish historical memory and consciousness the Black and Tans were, and how common the stories were in their upbringing, that the subjects genuinely believed these were some of their earliest memories. And it really, really makes you wonder how reliable our own memories are.

Any link to this or further info on it?

Ten of Swords

Misquote, "Greed is good" - Gordon Gekko

Actual quote, "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good"

Realt Dearg Sec

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Any link to this or further info on it?

Ugh now I'm stumped, this was something that was mentioned in a seminar on history and memory, by a historian, to a group of graduate students years ago. I'm trying to Google it to find out where it originated and I can't find anything. I'll keep looking.

It would be bitterly ironic if it turned out to be a false memory.

Burial.

Most famous one is probably that the Queen song doesn't end in "We are the champions....of the world". "Of the world" is sang at the end of one of the choruses but the final part finishes with "cause we are the champions". Pretty mad.

lazybones32

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Ugh now I'm stumped, this was something that was mentioned in a seminar on history and memory, by a historian, to a group of graduate students years ago. I'm trying to Google it to find out where it originated and I can't find anything. I'll keep looking.

It would be bitterly ironic if it turned out to be a false memory.

This has been well-studied in psychology and is a bias that has to be factored for. I can't think of the term for it and i'm not walking the 20 feet to the book for you.

Realt Dearg Sec

lazybones32 wrote: »

This has been well-studied in psychology and is a bias that has to be factored for. I can't think of the term for it and i'm not walking the 20 feet to the book for you.

I know it's a well-studied phenomenon in general but the specific incidence of Irish people of a certain age very commonly having memories of the Black and Tans is what Duffy was asking about and which I'm struggling to find a source for.

Also, username checks out.

johnnyskeleton

Alas, poor Yorrick, I knew him well

johnnyskeleton

Burial. wrote: »

Most famous one is probably that the Queen song doesn't end in "We are the champions....of the world". "Of the world" is sang at the end of one of the choruses but the final part finishes with "cause we are the champions". Pretty mad.

Also the song One Vision ends "gimme gimme gimme fried chicken"

Asus X540L

Wexfordboy89 wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory

Anybody ever hear of this before.I for a long time thought in the movie Forrest gump in probably the most famous since in the movie thought he said "momma always said life is like a box of chocolates".but he actually says "momma always said life was like a box of chocolates.anyone else have an example of something they thought happened/was said but the opposite actually happened/was said.

Wtf

Your Face

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Alas, poor Yorrick, I knew him well

Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio

Irish Guitarist

I've been watching videos of it on YouTube recently. It started off as being interesting but the more I watched the more I discovered most of them are nonsense. They're just people getting their facts wrong.

There's someone who makes a new video anytime he discovers he's been mishearing a song lyric slightly. Anytime he notices there's an S at the end of a word which he had previously being hearing differently he makes a video about it. He must have dozens of these videos.

In another video he even blames his divorce on his wife being a different person in 'this reality'.

Most of this shite is people not wanting to accept they're wrong about something. Here's a YouTube comment I saw recently.

Irish Guitarist

One Mandela Effect that I was surprised at was that Oliver Hardy never said "that's another fine mess you've gotten me into". It was always "nice mess".

Duckworth_Luas

James Cagney was lampooned by impressionists for decades using his catchphrase "why, you dirty rat". He never said it, ever.

Irish Guitarist

The Mandela effect isn't just people remembering things wrong. People that believe in it believe that reality is being changed because there's an alternate reality that they shift in and out of, that people are travelling from the future and changing time or that we're living in some kind of computer simulation.

Apparently thousands of people remember Nelson Mandela dying and his funeral being broadcast on television in the 1980s, hence the name Mandela effect.

There are some people that take all of this far too seriously and appear to have some kind of mental disorder. Anytime they discover they've being remembering a song lyric or a line in a film incorrectly they think it's more 'evidence' that whatever insane theory they believe is right. They're obsessed with it.

ligerdub

Burial. wrote:

Most famous one is probably that the Queen song doesn't end in "We are the champions....of the world". "Of the world" is sang at the end of one of the choruses but the final part finishes with "cause we are the champions". Pretty mad.

Pretty sure he sang it on a live video that is quite well known. It's just not on any album/single or the like.

Wexfordboy89

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

The Mandela effect isn't just people remembering things wrong. People that believe in it believe that reality is being changed because there's an alternate reality that they shift in and out of, that people are travelling from the future and changing time or that we're living in some kind of computer simulation.

Apparently thousands of people remember Nelson Mandela dying and his funeral being broadcast on television in the 1980s, hence the name Mandela effect.

There are some people that take all of this far too seriously and appear to have some kind of mental disorder. Anytime they discover they've being remembering a song lyric or a line in a film incorrectly they think it's more 'evidence' that whatever insane theory they believe is right. They're obsessed with it.

Thats where the term comes from a woman said she remembers his funeal being on tv.she was shocked to hear and see he was still alive this was about 2 r 3 years before he died.he said she remembers news reports saying he had died in prison on robin island.thousands of others said they also remember the same thing.the Kennedy assassination is another people remembering four people in the car when actually there where 6 people

Are Am Eye

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

The Mandela effect isn't just people remembering things wrong. People that believe in it believe that reality is being changed because there's an alternate reality that they shift in and out of, that people are travelling from the future and changing time or that we're living in some kind of computer simulation.

Apparently thousands of people remember Nelson Mandela dying and his funeral being broadcast on television in the 1980s, hence the name Mandela effect.

There are some people that take all of this far too seriously and appear to have some kind of mental disorder. Anytime they discover they've being remembering a song lyric or a line in a film incorrectly they think it's more 'evidence' that whatever insane theory they believe is right. They're obsessed with it.

Of course maybe you only think you heard about all this, and learning about how it worked, but in fact you never did

o1s1n

Burial. wrote: »

Most famous one is probably that the Queen song doesn't end in "We are the champions....of the world". "Of the world" is sang at the end of one of the choruses but the final part finishes with "cause we are the champions". Pretty mad.

This is one of the main examples used when it comes to the Mandela Effect and it's complete bollocks.

The live version of We are the Champions ends with 'of the world' and that's the version most people know.

RiderOnTheStorm

I think this quote qualifies, as its used as the exact opposite of what it means.
"Blood is thicker than water". People use this to mean that family is more important than non-family. But the original phrase is "the blood of battle is thicker than the waters of the womb". Which means that people you have shared adversity with are more important than those that are just family.

ligerdub

RiderOnTheStorm wrote:

I think this quote qualifies, as its used as the exact opposite of what it means. "Blood is thicker than water". People use this to mean that family is more important than non-family. But the original phrase is "the blood of battle is thicker than the waters of the womb". Which means that people you have shared adversity with are more important than those that are just family.

No that isn't Mandela effect really.

Grayson

odyssey06 wrote: »

I wonder if this is how languages evolve... our brains are auto-correcting word combinations into an easier to remember \ pronounce form...

Maybe but it's not the Mandela effect is it?

The mandela effect is remembering something that never happened. Not remembering something slightly differently.

So for example Darth vader never said "Luke, I am your father" but he did reveal himself as Luke's father.

However the mandela effect is remembering thousands of Muslims in New Jersey celebrating 9/11 when it never happened at all.

odyssey06

Grayson wrote: »

Maybe but it's not the Mandela effect is it?
The mandela effect is remembering something that never happened. Not remembering something slightly differently. So for example Darth vader never said "Luke, I am your father" but he did reveal himself as Luke's father.
However the mandela effect is remembering thousands of Muslims in New Jersey celebrating 9/11 when it never happened at all.

Did people actually remember that as happening, or do they remember reading an untrue media report about that happening?
It's not a false memory, it's a memory of something false.

ligerdub

odyssey06 wrote: »

Did people actually remember that as happening, or do they remember reading an untrue media report about that happening?
It's not a false memory, it's a memory of something false.

It's neither.

In order for this to be the Mandela effect it would have to be something like a significant proportion of people who believed they saw this on tv or the like (but obviously didn't). The reality is that it is more likely to be something that a relatively small number of people genuinely did witness with their own eyes (I don't think there was ever a claim that it was thousands either, like some sort of carnival).

It's also a political comment unnecessarily shoe-horned into the mixer.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Wexfordboy89 wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory

Anybody ever hear of this before.I for a long time thought in the movie Forrest gump in probably the most famous since in the movie thought he said "momma always said life is like a box of chocolates".but he actually says "momma always said life was like a box of chocolates.anyone else have an example of something they thought happened/was said but the opposite actually happened/was said.

FFS is that the best you could come up with...? :rolls eyes:

Beam me up Scotty.