Anti-vaxxers

ancapailldorcha

Measles killed over 140,000 people in 2018, mostly children:

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/measles

Why anti-vaxxers are trying to discredit the vaccine will forever be beyond me.

TheRepentent

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Why anti-vaxxers are trying to discredit the vaccine will forever be beyond me.

Cos they are scummy kunts tbh.

While we can't force vacinate people , we can and should stop childrens allowance for the vaxtards kids and stop all access to creches/schools unless they have a medical reason not too.

Stopping access to creches/schools is not punishment for the children that have simpletons for parents but to protect the other kids.

VicMackey1

TheRepentent wrote: »

Stopping access to creches/schools is not punishment for the children that have simpletons for parents but to protect the other kids.

That would only work if the parents could provide adequate home-schooling for those children.

ancapailldorcha

VicMackey1 wrote: »

That would only work if the parents could provide adequate home-schooling for those children.

That would involve a lot more effort and work than simply sharing bile on social media.

VicMackey1

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

That would involve a lot more effort and work than simply sharing bile on social media.

I guess any parent that would refuse to give their child the MMR vaccine would not be capable of teaching their child past 2nd class!

mountai

Aha I see the "Groupenfhurer of the Medical Stormtroopers" has put in an appearance . Spewing his usual insulting comments .

mountai

mountai wrote: »

Aha I see the "Groupenfhurer of the Medical Stormtroopers" has put in an appearance . Spewing his usual insulting comments .

Again godwining your argument shows that you don't have one.

Dohnjoe

mountai wrote: »

Aha I see the "Groupenfhurer of the Medical Stormtroopers" has put in an appearance . Spewing his usual insulting comments .

Infectious diseases are making a return because anti-vaxxers are pushing disinfo and dangerous pseudo-science about vaccines

That disinfo is encouraged by this new breed of vaccine-injury "specialist" who seem to be obsessed with the relatively tiny amount of people (unfortunately) negatively affected by vaccines and exaggerating those cases to absurd levels bordering on complete hysteria

ancapailldorcha

mountai wrote: »

Aha I see the "Groupenfhurer of the Medical Stormtroopers" has put in an appearance . Spewing his usual insulting comments .

Is the German supposed to be edgy, cultured or something?

Frank Bullitt

kylith wrote: »

Most people who say they have ‘the flu’ just gave a bad cold. I got a mild dose of the flu a few years back and I literally had to crawl to the loo cos I physically couldn’t stand.

This.

I had the flu in my early twenties. I fainted in the local shop ordering my food, stuck in bed for days, there was blood in my urine and I lost about 10lbs. It was tiring eating soup.

Anyone who misses a day from work from the flu, didn't have the flu.

PopePalpatine

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Is the German supposed to be edgy, cultured or something?

If you post it often enough, you get entered into a draw for a free Hyundai Santa Fe.

TheRepentent

VicMackey1 wrote: »

That would only work if the parents could provide adequate home-schooling for those children.

Thats their problem.......

Timberrrrrrrr

mountai wrote: »

Aha I see the "Groupenfhurer of the Medical Stormtroopers" has put in an appearance . Spewing his usual insulting comments .

One,wonders if you see the irony here?

Timberrrrrrrr

PopePalpatine wrote: »

If you post it often enough, you get entered into a draw for a free Hyundai Santa Fe.

Would have thought it would be a V W Beetle

VicMackey1

TheRepentent wrote: »

Thats their problem.......

Ultimately it is the childs problem. I believe that refusal to vaccinate is child neglect and should be treated as such.

TheRepentent

VicMackey1 wrote: »

Ultimately it is the childs problem

I agree and through no fault of their own but you have to protect the majority of kids with responsible parents, so I still stand by my no access to creches/schools stance.

As regards child neglect I'd support anything that helps kids be protected from their vaxtard parents stupidity.

VicMackey1

Laura Brennans campaign made a huge impact on HPV vaccine uptake it seems. She will be responsible for saving many lives. What an amazing lady she was!

"90% of first-year boys and girls in this county availed of the first dose of the vaccine in September, months after the young Enniswoman died last March at the age of 26. That’s higher than the overall national rate of around 80%, which itself is a huge increase from the 50% figure that was recorded before Laura began her campaign."

http://www.clare.fm/podcasts/laura-brennan-hailed-hpv-vaccine-rates-increase/

Igotadose

Skeptical Raptor gives some reasoning as to why it might take a couple of years for a Covid-19 vaccine to be developed, despite anything the POTUS might've said in a press conference. A couple of years minimum, might be less, but probably not, as the virus mutates a lot and there's no animal model yet for it to begin testing.

https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/coronavirus-vaccine-development-donald-trump-wrong/

Hotblack Desiato

So what you're trying to tell us is that Trump is not actually an expert or even informed on whatever topic he happens to mouth off about at any particular time? That he may indeed warrant the epithets "blowhard" and "buffoon" ?

Are you sure about this? :pac:

Orion

TheRepentent wrote: »

I agree and through no fault of their own but you have to protect the majority of kids with responsible parents, so I still stand by my no access to creches/schools stance.

I completely agree. Schools and creches should refuse access to unvaccinated children. Some creches do. Same goes for sports organisations. GP surgeries, anywhere a disease carrier can infect people who cannot be be vaccinated for legitimate reasons.

Orion

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

So what you're trying to tell us is that Trump is not actually an expert or even informed on whatever topic he happens to mouth off about at any particular time? That he may indeed warrant the epithets "blowhard" and "buffoon" ?

Are you sure about this? :pac:

You mean this Trump?

Igotadose

Anti-vaxxers funded a study. Unfortunately for them, it found no link between vaccines and autism. Oopers. Gotta love it.

Only thing I'd change in Newsweek's article title, is that the funding wasn't by accident. It was a deliberate decision.

https://www.newsweek.com/anti-vaxxers-accidentally-fund-study-showing-theres-no-link-between-autism-and-379245

ancapailldorcha

In other news, it looks like just two companies paid for over half (54% to be precise) of anti-vaxx Facebook ads:

The majority of Facebook ads spreading misinformation about vaccines are funded by two organizations run by well-known anti-vaccination activists, a new study in the journal Vaccine has found.

The World Mercury Project chaired by Robert F Kennedy Jr, and Stop Mandatory Vaccinations, a project of campaigner Larry Cook, bought 54% of the anti-vaccine ads shown on the platform during the study period.

“Absolutely we were surprised,” said David Broniatowski, a professor of engineering at George Washington University, one of the authors of the report. “These two individuals were generating the majority of the content.”

Cook uses crowd-funding platforms to raise money for Facebook ads and his personal expenses. The crowd-funding platform GoFundMe banned Cook’s fundraisers in March 2019. YouTube has demonetized Cook’s videos.

Kennedy is the son of the former US attorney general Bobby Kennedy. He also has a nonprofit focused on environmental causes. Kennedy’s brother, sister and niece publicly criticized his “dangerous misinformation” about vaccines in May. They called his work against vaccination, “tragically wrong”.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/nov/13/majority-antivaxx-vaccine-ads-facebook-funded-by-two-organizations-study

Hotblack Desiato

Cook uses crowd-funding platforms to raise money for Facebook ads and his personal expenses.

I bet he does

ohnonotgmail

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

I bet he does

grifters gotta grift

Seth Brundle

Just seen this on Twitter...

https://twitter.com/qikipedia/status/1233723842838835200?s=19

Titclamp

VicMackey1 wrote: »

Laura Brennans campaign made a huge impact on HPV vaccine uptake it seems. She will be responsible for saving many lives. What an amazing lady she was!

"90% of first-year boys and girls in this county availed of the first dose of the vaccine in September, months after the young Enniswoman died last March at the age of 26. That’s higher than the overall national rate of around 80%, which itself is a huge increase from the 50% figure that was recorded before Laura began her campaign."

http://www.clare.fm/podcasts/laura-brennan-hailed-hpv-vaccine-rates-increase/

How many actually die from the cancers mentioned? Is their figures

kylith

Titclamp wrote: »

How many actually die from the cancers mentioned? Is their figures

For cervical cancer it’s about 40%.

Is there really any percentage that’s ok to die of something preventable?

Capt'n Midnight

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Just seen this on Twitter...

https://twitter.com/qikipedia/status/1233723842838835200?s=19

Yeah but no.

It was more that it would have been extremely difficult to patent due to prior work. And there was another vaccine in use. Allegedly the path of least resistance was to take the kudos and public acclaim that money couldn't buy.


That said Polio was the stuff of nightmares. And in that context a lot could be excused.


There was a BBC documentary on polio. A fit and healthy fighter pilot had to be helped from the cockpit after a flight from Hawaii to California.

He never walked again. Polio can be life changing with almost no warning.

Capt'n Midnight

Coronaviruses affect immunocompromised individuals more.

Anyone who has had measles in the last few years.