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what do you make of our international cuisine?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,292 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Mamma mia!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭Doctor Nick


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Try pearse street in Dublin there are some restaurants that cater to main land Chinese people.

    Pearse or Parnell? I've just left a restaurant on the latter that do fantastic lunches. Skewer Chicken Satay, Beef Curry with Rice and a can for €10. Was really nice.

    I know Chinese here isn't proper Chinese. Heard they do a lot of offal over there. Not sure I'd be into that. All I really eat from a Chinese here is Curry and a Szechuan. Find anything else causes me to bloat and feel rough.

    I could eat Thai all day every day. The salads are unreal, blow the head off you. Find Thai restaurants here very good. Not the Asian fusion places but those that identify as Thai only. Not that there's that many around. Can only think of 5 or 6.


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    PGE1970 wrote: »
    Jesus, €21 for a pizza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They range from about €14 to €20, yes.

    If that's too rich for your blood you could get a frozen job from Aldi or try McDonalds down the road.

    Do people seriously expect to eat out well in Dublin 2017 for a tenner or something?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    They range from about €14 to €20, yes.

    If that's too rich for your blood you could get a frozen job from Aldi or try McDonalds down the road.

    Do people seriously expect to eat out well in Dublin 2017 for a tenner or something?

    So Mum, Dad and 2 kids go for a pizza and coke each and it costs €100?

    Leaving aside the suggestion about it being "too rich" for me which is hopelessly irrelevant as the comment is about the product and not about the poster, I think that pricing a basic dish such as pizza at this level in crazy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,687 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    Chinese/Indians serving chips?

    :confused:

    Indian for the Irish palette.

    Galway now has a Bonda Bistro, a Malaysian place that does food the way I've had it elsewhere. I don't know if it's authentic Mayalsian or not, but suspect it is given that lots of foreign students eat there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31,850 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    smurgen wrote: »
    Mexican isn't as good.wahaca in london is much better i find.chinese here is muck and thai is okay.italian is better in one or two places in cork than you get in italy.i've been to italy at least 10 times now and find it a very overated cuisine.
    When it comes to Mexican Wahaca is a fairly standard chain restaurant and pretty overrated imo. When it comes to mexican food in dublin bar boojum for burritos, you have Xico, 777 and taco taco. I also really like KChido but tis more of a pop up nearly.

    I think we have some great thai and asian places in dublin.
    Pho Viet, M and L, Red torch ginger, Kimchi, Camille thai, lots more as well, Eatokyo Musashi for sushi as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭blackdog2


    Living in China now, would absolutely love a beef curry now.

    Also, I miss decent Indian food :(


  • Posts: 17,381 [Deleted User]


    gmisk wrote: »
    When it comes to Mexican Wahaca is a fairly standard chain restaurant and pretty overrated imo. When it comes to mexican food in dublin bar boojum for burritos, you have Xico, 777 and taco taco. I also really like KChido but tis more of a pop up nearly.

    I think we have some great thai and asian places in dublin.
    Pho Viet, M and L, Red torch ginger, Kimchi, Camille thai, lots more as well.

    http://www.phoviet.ie/menu

    That menu looks great and has more than I thought it would. It's only missing a couple of things like bun bo nam bo and some of the classic Hue dishes but they're hard to find anyway.

    The one I'm most surprised about is banh cuon and if they do that up like they do here, it's impressive.


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    PGE1970 wrote: »
    So Mum, Dad and 2 kids go for a pizza and coke each and it costs €100?

    Leaving aside the suggestion about it being "too rich" for me which is hopelessly irrelevant as the comment is about the product and not about the poster, I think that pricing a basic dish such as pizza at this level in crazy.

    It is marginally more expensive than Milano and a world away in terms of quality and dining experience.

    What do you think pizza should cost and where would you recommend?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    PGE1970 wrote: »
    Off topic, I apologise but.............

    I'm sure that it is a lovely spot but when I look at some of the prices, I can't believe it.

    I spent time in Sicily this summer. The most that I paid for a pizza was €5 in a restaurant. This was a seafood pizza!

    Whilst I acknowledge the difference in overheads, importation of raw materials etc, charging €14 for a pizza is insane.

    I was in India for 4 months and spent 70c on a Thali most days. Usually min €20 here but who cares as it is a pointless comparison


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,154 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Thanks for the info. I love spicy food (and hotpot) so like the sound of that. I suspected I was missing something as the typical dishes I mentioned while advertised as spicy on a menu are not. Surprised I've never seen those hotpots on a menu here.

    go to Good World on Georges St in Dublin and ask for the chinese menu. The menu has limited english translations as well. the hotpot is fantastic.,


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,131 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    PGE1970 wrote: »
    Jesus, €21 for a pizza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They range from about €14 to €20, yes.

    If that's too rich for your blood you could get a frozen job from Aldi or try McDonalds down the road.

    Do people seriously expect to eat out well in Dublin 2017 for a tenner or something?

    Pizza is just flour, water and yeast, it should be cheap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,391 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    PGE1970 wrote: »
    Jesus, €21 for a pizza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Where do you see it's €21 for a pizza, Don't see a menu anywhere.


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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Pizza is just flour, water and yeast, it should be cheap.

    Well you should pop into Carlo in Toffoli and explain to him he's doing it wrong.

    Maybe it's a little more expensive because he makes every pizza himself and uses the highest quality ingredients that he also sources himself?

    The idea that food should be cheap is precisely why so many people eat so much rubbish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 714 ✭✭✭nkav86


    Do people seriously expect to eat out well in Dublin 2017 for a tenner or something?

    You're joking right?? It's a pizza, bread with sauce and toppings.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    nkav86 wrote: »
    You're joking right?? It's a pizza, bread with sauce and toppings.....

    It's €12 for a cheese and tomato pizza from dominos ffs. So where does one go for a tenner?


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    nkav86 wrote: »
    You're joking right?? It's a pizza, bread with sauce and toppings.....

    I appear to be in a parallel universe or something.

    The pizzas range from about 12 quid to a little over 20. The more expensive ones have more expensive ingredients on them and as it's a proper restaurant run by someone who cares about food, they are high quality ingredients.

    Alternatively, you can ring up Apache pizza or Dominos and get a similar size pizza for somewhere between 10 and 15 quid.

    You can save a whole 3 euros or so to get it made with the absolute worst ingredients, by someone who doesn't give a **** about food, and eaten lukewarm in your living room in front of the telly.

    If that's what you're into then enjoy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    House special chow mein with curry sauce
    Doner Kebab
    Indian Curries, bhuna, rogan josh, tikka masala
    Fish or Burger & Chips
    Pepperoni Pizza

    That is really all i ever get as takeaway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Pearse or Parnell? I've just left a restaurant on the latter that do fantastic lunches. Skewer Chicken Satay, Beef Curry with Rice and a can for €10. Was really nice.

    I know Chinese here isn't proper Chinese. Heard they do a lot of offal over there. Not sure I'd be into that. All I really eat from a Chinese here is Curry and a Szechuan. Find anything else causes me to bloat and feel rough.

    I could eat Thai all day every day. The salads are unreal, blow the head off you. Find Thai restaurants here very good. Not the Asian fusion places but those that identify as Thai only. Not that there's that many around. Can only think of 5 or 6.


    The best places IMO for Chinese food in Dublin are hailan on Capel Street and M&L just opposite the spire. www.mlchineserestaurant.com/
    Both do proper Chinese food.

    Capel street has a few restaurants that do hotpots as well. There are also some Korean restaurants here that are ok too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,131 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Pizza is just flour, water and yeast, it should be cheap.

    Well you should pop into Carlo in Toffoli and explain to him he's doing it wrong.

    Maybe it's a little more expensive because he makes every pizza himself and uses the highest quality ingredients that he also sources himself?

    The idea that food should be cheap is precisely why so many people eat so much rubbish.

    Maybe I will, 21euro in Italy I'd be expecting truffle on it.

    You can make great pizza at home for about a euro. A fool and his money and all that jazz!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 714 ✭✭✭nkav86


    I've no idea, I don't eat much pizza. I'm not saying that it's just them that price pizza too high, it definitely isn't, but it doesn't make sense to me that a simple product like pizza can be that overpriced and some think that's perfectly fine. And the idea that the chef/owner sources ingredients and makes it themselves can be a justification, I'd expect them to do nothing less that's the point surely


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Maybe I will, 21euro in Italy I'd be expecting truffle on it.

    You can make great pizza at home for about a euro. A fool and his money and all that jazz!

    sure you can.

    break that down for me there's a good chap.

    you need at least 3 euro for decent mozarella


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    nkav86 wrote: »
    I've no idea, I don't eat much pizza. I'm not saying that it's just them that price pizza too high, it definitely isn't, but it doesn't make sense to me that a simple product like pizza can be that overpriced and some think that's perfectly fine. And the idea that the chef/owner sources ingredients themselves can be a justification, I'd expect them to do nothing less that's the point surely

    Every plate of food is 'simple' if you break it down.

    What's more simple than a fried piece of cow, but people pay 25 euro and more for a steak.

    If the argument is that good steak is expensive, then by the same token the 21 euro pizza will have meat on it and guess what - it will be good quality meat.

    I guess some people don't want to eat out and think it's a rip-off, which is totally fair enough. But it's nonsense to be shocked that a pizza eaten in a restaurant might cost more than a tenner because it's just flour and water.

    (edit) oh and in the pizza business it would be extremely unusual that the chef sources all ingredients and makes all the pizzas from scratch him or herself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    go to Good World on Georges St in Dublin and ask for the chinese menu. The menu has limited english translations as well. the hotpot is fantastic.,

    Good World hasn't had authentic Chinese food available in years. Don't know why this recommendation is still floating around. They are a standard Chinese restaurant/takeaway these days - everything bought in preprepared from the same supplier and reheated.

    Your chicken chow mein in Phuq You in Westport is the same as it is in Mr. Kim's in Wexford. Same sauce, vacuum packed meat and veg combo, fried rice, tray, brown bag. The supplier even prints the menus for them - with deliberate charming spelling mistakes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,154 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Good World hasn't had authentic Chinese food available in years. Don't know why this recommendation is still floating around. They are a standard Chinese restaurant/takeaway these days - everything bought in preprepared from the same supplier and reheated.

    Your chicken chow mein in Phuq You in Westport is the same as it is in Mr. Kim's in Wexford. Same sauce, vacuum packed meat and veg combo, fried rice, tray, brown bag. The supplier even prints the menus for them - with deliberate charming spelling mistakes.


    Now its been a little while since i've been there but are you telling me that the chinese menu with the hotpot and chicken feet is gone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    Now its been a little while since i've been there but are you telling me that the chinese menu with the hotpot and chicken feet is gone?

    I had the misfortune of being there last month and the Chinese menu wasn't available. They had a dim sum menu, but I'd be extremely surprised if they were being prepared from scratch.

    M&L is another joint that gets recommended for its authentic Chinese fare. Has some stuff they specialise in, but much of it is standard teeth cloying sauce stuff. I realise they have to cater for an audience who expect chips as an option with their curry, but authentic Chinese it ain't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,154 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I had the misfortune of being there last month and the Chinese menu wasn't available. They had a dim sum menu, but I'd be extremely surprised if they were being prepared from scratch.

    M&L is another joint that gets recommended for its authentic Chinese fare. Has some stuff they specialise in, but much of it is standard teeth cloying sauce stuff. I realise they have to cater for an audience who expect chips as an option with their curry, but authentic Chinese it ain't.


    well that is an awful pity. Have to scratch that off the list.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,881 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    go to Good World on Georges St in Dublin and ask for the chinese menu. The menu has limited english translations as well. the hotpot is fantastic.,

    Thanks for that tip - most Sundays I'm looking for somewhere decent to eat in that area. Will try that place out...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭kingtut


    branie2 wrote: »
    I don't like spicy food.

    Spicy and hot are not the same thing.
    Food can be spicy and not hot, not spicy and hot or both spicy and hot.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,131 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Maybe I will, 21euro in Italy I'd be expecting truffle on it.

    You can make great pizza at home for about a euro. A fool and his money and all that jazz!

    sure you can.

    break that down for me there's a good chap.

    you need at least 3 euro for decent mozarella

    You clearly know nothing about food 'chappy'. People pay 5 quid for chips, most people know F about food so paying 21quid for pizza is normal for the average pleb


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