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Mother of six shot dead. Why no outrage?

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    #2
    Foweva Awone
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    Who what now? A link probably wouldn't go astray ...


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    Donal55
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    She's not a journalist.


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    The Omen II
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    http://www.thejournal.ie/gardai-ballymun-3553558-Aug2017/


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    Topgear on Dave
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    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mumofsix-and-man-killed-three-including-child-injured-in-dublin-housing-estate-shooting-36038963.html

    Dont shoot politicians.

    Dont shoot journalists.

    If the gangsters live by these rules it seems like they get away with anything.

    The world is in hysteria about islamic terrorism, :rolleyes: these gangsters can shoot who they like when they like any day of the week with automatic weapons in Dublin. :pac:

    Sickens my ar*s


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    Stheno
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    She was related to a known criminal who was in her house?


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    osarusan
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    The Omen II wrote: »
    A decade ago scenes like this would of brought protesters to the streets.
    http://www.thejournal.ie/gardai-ballymun-3553558-Aug2017/
    Were you out in the streets protesting yourself?

    Or are you just moaning about how other people aren't doing stuff you aren't doing either?


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    Ubbquittious
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    The outrage tank is empty.


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    Fr_Dougal
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    She wasn't an innocent bystander. Live by the sword etc.


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    judeboy101
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    If you are born in a stable, it doesn't mean you are a horse. But it does mean you smell like one.


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    r93kaey5p2izun
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    If the shootings of two children (one left in a wheelchair), and near miss of a child where a bullet lodged in their car seat, did not lead to change then it can hardly be surprising that the same non response happens again. Any number of innocent people have been shot by "gangland" criminals at this stage. Forgotten about within days.


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    The Omen II
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    Stheno wrote: »
    She was related to a known criminal who was in her house?
    Ah sure she was from Ballymun until somebody respectable gets killed and nobody will care.
    Ah sure she had it coming.


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    annascott
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    Druggie people on a rough estate getting shot is not deemed as tragic as innocent people getting shot. There is always a sense of "could that happen to me/people like me?" When it is a drug or gangland related feud, most just shrug and move on feeling that it is just a few more criminals off the streets.
    I am not saying that it is right, just how it is.


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    Are Am Eye
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    The corrupt garda management will trot out their favourite lack of resources line.

    The garda inspectorate in their report last october identified that at least 1500 garda members were engaged in non operational roles and should be reassigned to their actual job.
    Anyone care to guess how many have left the comfy office chair?
    It rhymes with hero.


    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/article35143116.ece


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    tomofson
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    annascott wrote: »
    Druggie people on a rough estate getting shot is not deemed as tragic as innocent people getting shot. There is always a sense of "could that happen to me/people like me?" When it is a drug or gangland related feud, most just shrug and move on feeling that it is just a few more criminals off the streets.
    I am not saying that it is right, just how it is.

    The young man shot was a locksmith with no criminal record, as far as I know the woman had no record either. Not everyone from a rough estate is a "druggie person".


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    Kermit.de.frog
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    All the gang suspects could be rounded up in one go if there was the political will. Those in Spain could all be arrested in the morning if the will was there.

    Absent that Gardaí, under resourced and fúked by a liberal judiciary, more than happy to let them kill each other and associates.


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    greencap
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    Ubbquittious wrote: »
    The outrage tank is empty.

    This x 100.

    Boy who cried wolf outrage.

    discussion/2058195983/russia-threadbanned-users-in-op/p3135

    😁



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    Tipsy McSwagger
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    Because she didn't fall of a balcony in America


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    keith_sixteen
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    Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »
    Because she didn't fall of a balcony in America

    What a disgusting comment. None of those kids fell off the balcony, it collapsed.


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    eviltwin
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    keith_sixteen wrote: »
    What a disgusting comment. None of those kids fell off the balcony, it collapsed.

    We were still plunged into national mourning over it. Terrible tragedy but complete overkill and wouldn't have happened only for the background of the victims.


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    AudreyHepburn
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    The Omen II wrote: »
    A decade ago scenes like this would of brought protesters to the streets.
    http://www.thejournal.ie/gardai-ballymun-3553558-Aug2017/

    Maybe because she might not be the innocent bystander she's been made out to be?

    She was related to known criminals, had welcomed them into her home.

    Live by the sword, die by the sword.


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    Your Face
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    I'm early for work so I'm going to have a coffee and plan out what will hopefully be a productive day.


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    keith_sixteen
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    We were still plunged into national mourning over it. Terrible tragedy but complete overkill and wouldn't have happened only for the background of the victims.

    So that makes it ok to flat out lie about what happened and effectively blame them for "falling off a balcony"?

    I'd say there was at least as much begrudgery and lies about those kids as there was mourning.


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    razorblunt
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    OOOUUUTTTTTRRRRAAAAAAGGGGEEEEE.


    Sorry, I'm late, was parking the car.
    Is that suitable outrage?


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    Kermit.de.frog
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    keith_sixteen wrote: »
    So that makes it ok to flat out lie about what happened and effectively blame them for "falling off a balcony"?

    What is the difference between that accident and the two shot dead in Ballymun?

    Oh yeah - they were from Ballymun.

    "Two shot dead in Ballsbridge in broad daylight" - front page news.


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    Fr Tod Umptious
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    The balcony collapse got more attention and national mourning than the death in a fire of 10 people from the traveling community.


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    keith_sixteen
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    What is the difference between that accident and the two shot dead in Ballymun?

    Oh yeah - they were from Ballymun.

    "Two shot dead in Ballsbridge in broad daylight" - front page news.

    What are you on about? This was front page news.


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    Kermit.de.frog
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    keith_sixteen wrote: »
    What are you on about? This was front page news.

    No it wasn't.


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    keith_sixteen
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    No it wasn't.

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2017/08/16/de-thursday-papers-225/


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    Galwayguy35
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    If they were up to their necks in criminality I doubt many would be that bothered, I know I wouldn't anyway but the man who was shot was innocent, just in the wrong place at the wrong time and while she was related to a known criminal there is no evidence that she was involved herself in any criminal activity.

    Yes it made the news but it's naive to think that a persons backround doesn't influence the amount of coverage it gets, VG died 21 years ago and it's still fresh in people's minds because it makes the news from time to time, this man who was shot will be forgotten about in a years time because nobody will mention it in the media.

    In the same week that Katie French overdosed the same thing happened to 2 other fellas, their deaths barely even got a mention.


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    Dravokivich
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    A lot of us have grown tired of protests. It's just a lot of noise, holds up traffic where ever they are and frustrates commuters. Very little gets changed by protests in this country. And who are you going to protest to? The gangs involved don't give a shít. We don't have a justice system that works effectively end to end. And the top tier of the Gardaí and the Government are currently focused on chasing money... or so we are lead to believe.


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