Go-Ahead Dublin City Routes - Updates and Discussion

Stephen15

marno21 wrote: »

If the NTA plan to release a TFI branded app or similar soon I would imagine they would have asked DB to remove it from the app store.

The thing they already have two, the Journey Planner and Realtime Ireland. Also the BE app looks to be gone also but the IE app is still there.

marno21

Stephen15 wrote: »

The thing they already have two, the Journey Planner and Realtime Ireland. Also the BE app looks to be gone also but the IE app is still there.

I meant a TFI branded specific app for Dublin to take the role of the now defunct Dublin Bus app and including buses tendered to private operators (Go Ahead + perhaps the likes of the 139 contracted to JJK)

Stephen15

marno21 wrote: »

I meant a TFI branded specific app for Dublin to take the role of the now defunct Dublin Bus app and including buses tendered to private operators (Go Ahead + perhaps the likes of the 139 contracted to JJK)

To be fair both apps do serve that function all that's missing is the timetables.

devnull

From what I've heard it's not been removed my intention.

Could be complete hearsay though.

Stephen15

devnull wrote: »

From what I've heard it's not been removed my intention.

Could be complete hearsay though.

Why don't you search the play store and see for yourself?

devnull

Stephen15 wrote: »

Why don't you search the play store?

I already have - it's not there but from what I have heard the removal is not intentional.

Stephen15

devnull wrote: »

I already have - it's not there but from what I have heard the removal is not intentional.

I can't see how and why it would have been removed accidentally. The app still appears to work normally which would suggest that it's not down for maintence or an update. Seems strange.

devnull

Video tour and quotes of the new depot here

https://twitter.com/GoAheadIreland/status/1016336053404426240

dublinman1990

The 6.1 news is going to show a report about the new GAI depot after it's ad break.

bk

Well the DB app still seems to be on the Apple App Store:

https://itunes.apple.com/ie/app/dublin-bus/id450455266?mt=8

Though it is a very poor effort. Only 2 stars out of 5 and hasn't been updated in over 2 years! At one point it went 2 years with GPS not working. A very poor effort overall.

I'd recommend Google Maps or Moovit instead.

bk

I have to say the new colour scheme looks well in that video, I look forward to seeing it in person.

dublinman1990

I loved some of the archive footage of the bus liveries from the RTÉ News report.

GT83 from Dublin Bus been painted in the Blue livery as I saw it on Flickr today. When the Go Ahead buses go out of service; they will display "Not in Service, As Serbhis" on their LED panels instead of displaying it Dublin Bus's current format. The GT's will also display a new five digit number painted in white that is located near the front window, the front passenger doors near the TFI logo on the back of the bus.

Courtesy of Michael Kelly; his Flickr account shows his new pictures of GT 83 here near Dublin Airport.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/38016434@N05/42166748245/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/38016434@N05/28202586647/in/photostream/

StreetLight

devnull wrote: »

From what I've heard it's not been removed my intention.

Could be complete hearsay though.

Someone pointed this out to DB on their Twitter page recently. One of the replies was that if an app has not been updated within a certain timeframe, then it's automatically removed from the Play Store.

bk

StreetLight wrote: »

Someone pointed this out to DB on their Twitter page recently. One of the replies was that if an app has not been updated within a certain timeframe, then it's automatically removed from the Play Store.

I was thinking it was something like that. A similar clear out will happen soon on the Apple App Store when Apple gets rid of non 64 bit apps (I don't know if the DB app would be effected or not).

At least the NTA apps are updated frequently, not that they are great. But no point in having an app unless you update it frequently.

devnull

Worth noting the bus in the video unfortunately has the old TGX150 ticket machine.

punisher5112

devnull wrote: »

Worth noting the bus in the video unfortunately has the old TGX150 ticket machine.

They won't be changed for another while yet.

3 seconds to read a card is shocking to be honest.

L1011

Where do they find new TGX150s? Product is long retired by parkeon officially, and the underlying chipsets aren't made either

devnull

L1011 wrote: »

Where do they find new TGX150s? Product is long retired by parkeon officially, and the underlying chipsets aren't made either

Not sure if the bus in the video was an ex Dublin Bus one though or one that is new to Go-Ahead.

Parkeon retired it themselves but Transmach are still supplying it.

punisher5112

L1011 wrote: »

Where do they find new TGX150s? Product is long retired by parkeon officially, and the underlying chipsets aren't made either

They would be left fitted on the bus, db has quite a few of them even as spares.

All buses seen are ex db. They may also have a few new ones but not 100% on if they have them yet.

Obviously the Merc single decks are brought in from the UK for training.

L1011

The replacement vehicles for DB will need them too. Buying refurb isn't an endless supply

dashcamdanny

Very uneasy week as a DB employee. Cant help but feel our positions and jobs are being threatened .

Especially with rival company coming to many of our garages to drive busses away.

Many colleagues probably feel the same. Unions fighting and bickering with each other does not help.

I really hope the NTA stay true to their word and give us more work rather than less.

bk

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Very uneasy week as a DB employee. Cant help but feel our positions and jobs are being threatened .

Especially with rival company coming to many of our garages to drive busses away.

Many colleagues probably feel the same. Unions fighting and bickering with each other does not help.

I really hope the NTA stay true to their word and give us more work rather than less.

Those buses are being replaced by newer buses. They are being taken so their is a balance between new and old buses across both GA and DB. The alternative would be for DB just to have old buses and GA to get all new buses, which would result in DB looking worse.

It might feel uneasy, but it is better then the alternative.

stop

Will the DB rambler products work on GA? My parents use them to bus hop their way to the 185 before walking in the hills, just wondering if they should stop buying 30 day tickets..

markodaly

This is all a welcome move.
Along with the Bus Connects investment, Dublin Public Transport should improve immeasurably.
Unions et al, should drop that chip on that monied shoulder.

punisher5112

stop wrote: »

Will the DB rambler products work on GA? My parents use them to bus hop their way to the 185 before walking in the hills, just wondering if they should stop buying 30 day tickets..

They will be changing fares and how discount comes across but any tickets that works on one will on the other.

Peregrine

stop wrote: »

Will the DB rambler products work on GA? My parents use them to bus hop their way to the 185 before walking in the hills, just wondering if they should stop buying 30 day tickets..

There should be no difference to the customer between the two operators in terms of service. Tickets and fares are set by the NTA and collected by the NTA. You won't even have to know who's operating your bus.

AlekSmart

punisher5112 wrote: »

They would be left fitted on the bus, db has quite a few of them even as spares.

All buses seen are ex db. They may also have a few new ones but not 100% on if they have them yet.

Obviously the Merc single decks are brought in from the UK for training.

All BAC ticketing equipment is removed prior to collection by GAI.

devnull

Go Ahead Ireland Spec 182D465 seen with old TGX150 ticket machine.

BonnieSituation

Will there be anything noticeably different internally on the new spec buses?

devnull

Only differences I know about aside from livery are
-Black light clusters and Wright logo on front
-New style signs and notices
- Different colour handrails
- Different pattern seat fabric.

There may be more!