Go-Ahead Dublin City Routes - Updates and Discussion

punisher5112

I hope someone shows them how to park and leave adequate space at the dundrum Luas terminus.

14, 44, 161 and Dublin coach.

It's getting very crowded also as 75&175 are now coming through it also.

Oh and private buses/coaches parking along with cars dropping off and collecting mostly from the Dublin Coach.

Stephen15

The 17 no longer using the Owenstown Park entrance and looping around UCD and back on the N11 is this not delaying the journey? Will it go back to using it once the building work is finished? What's the story?

punisher5112

Stephen15 wrote: »

The 17 no longer using the Owenstown Park entrance and looping around UCD and back on the N11 is this not delaying the journey? Will it go back to using it once the building work is finished? What's the story?

It should do as that's what the bus gate was put in for.

Think it will be out near 2 years when done so I heard.

xper

Stephen15 wrote: »

The 17 no longer using the Owenstown Park entrance and looping around UCD and back on the N11 is this not delaying the journey? Will it go back to using it once the building work is finished? What's the story?

punisher5112 wrote: »

It should do as that's what the bus gate was put in for.

Think it will be out near 2 years when done so I heard.

Yes. Plans show bus bays included on a re-aligned access road from Owenstown Park. Only route 175 is cited but undoubtedly route 17 would return to that routing too.
From ucdplanning.ie:
Vol 6.3.001_C1000_Proposed Roads Layout.pdf (14.96 MB)

Longer term, the Bus Connects documents refer to an eventual relocation of the main bus park on the campus to north of the main gate, allowing easier interchange with the routes running along the Stillorgan dual carriageway with orbital routes coming through the campus via both the Owenstown and Clonskeagh entrances

Yer Da sells Avon

punisher5112 wrote: »

I hope someone shows them how to park and leave adequate space at the dundrum Luas terminus.

The way some Dublin Coach drivers park, it's often impossible for other buses to serve that stop without leaving the arse of their bus sticking out. The NTA really needs to reroute the 75 away from Dundrum Main St.

salmocab

Stephen15 wrote: »

Interesting I was under the impression that the 161 was to be operated by double deckers according to a GAI tweet anyway.

Obviously I don’t know if it’s to stay as a single decker but I’ve never seen that bus with many on it. I assumed they used a double decker as it was used on other routes in between doing the 161.

RuleNumber6

xper wrote: »

Yes. Plans show bus bays included on a re-aligned access road from Owenstown Park. Only route 175 is cited but undoubtedly route 17 would return to that routing too.
From ucdplanning.ie:
Vol 6.3.001_C1000_Proposed Roads Layout.pdf (14.96 MB)

Longer term, the Bus Connects documents refer to an eventual relocation of the main bus park on the campus to north of the main gate, allowing easier interchange with the routes running along the Stillorgan dual carriageway with orbital routes coming through the campus via both the Owenstown and Clonskeagh entrances

Interestingly, looking at the stop lists, it appears the NTA have the 17 stopping along the Stillorgan Road on the diversion route - stops DB have refused to acknowledge since the access road into UCD was closed.

Edit: Sorry - my mistake - seems some of these stops have been added to the website, although not all it would seem.

dublinman1990

punisher5112 wrote: »

I hope someone shows them how to park and leave adequate space at the dundrum Luas terminus.

14, 44, 161 and Dublin coach.

It's getting very crowded also as 75&175 are now coming through it also.

Oh and private buses/coaches parking along with cars dropping off and collecting mostly from the Dublin Coach.

Don't forget the 17D as well. That route starts/ends at the Dundrum Luas terminus.

soundman45

Whats the story with GAI Kildare commuter routes as it appears JJ Kavanagh is running a new route from Naas -Dublin City-Dublin Airport starting end of Feb.

p_haugh

RuleNumber6 wrote: »

Interestingly, looking at the stop lists, it appears the NTA have the 17 stopping along the Stillorgan Road on the diversion route - stops DB have refused to acknowledge since the access road into UCD was closed.

Edit: Sorry - my mistake - seems some of these stops have been added to the website, although not all it would seem.

It seems like Dublin Bus were treating it as an ongoing 'Diversion', rather then a complete change in the routing.

Stephen15

soundman45 wrote: »

Whats the story with GAI Kildare commuter routes as it appears JJ Kavanagh is running a new route from Naas -Dublin City-Dublin Airport starting end of Feb.

Rumours it won't be until November. I can't comment on the validity of these rumours but I can't see the BE routes transferring until well after the whole DB transfers are bedded in and running well.

r93kaey5p2izun

The changes to the 239 first bus with less than a week's notice are a complete fcuk up.

Stephen15

Xzavier Clean Optometry wrote: »

The changes to the 239 first bus with less than a week's notice are a complete fcuk up.

I think you're being a bit cynical there. The route now has a consistent hourly timetable and a Sunday service which it does not currently have.

Stephen15

For those who might be interested the first GAI GTs are supposed to finally enter service tomorrow. I believe GAI were giving them an overhaul before they enter service.

r93kaey5p2izun

Stephen15 wrote: »

I think you're being a bit cynical there. The route now has a consistent hourly timetable and a Sunday service which it does not currently have.

Of course you do.

I commented on one change only not the overall changes. The change to first bus times itself is poor but there is absolutely no excuse for less than a week's notice.

madnessnmayhem

Is that the last of buses from Dublin Bus going to Go Ahead? If not what other routes are going?

Stephen15

madnessnmayhem wrote: »

Is that the last of buses from Dublin Bus going to Go Ahead? If not what other routes are going?

18 and 76/a are going on the 10th Feburary

Stephen15

Xzavier Clean Optometry wrote: »

The change to first bus times itself is poor but there is absolutely no excuse for less than a week's notice.

The less than a weeks notice is not ideal but hardly a complete fcuk as you referred to it as.

TallGlass

When are Dublin Bus changing over to the new colour scheme?

p_haugh

Possibly from as early as February is what I heard

Stephen15

TallGlass wrote: »

When are Dublin Bus changing over to the new colour scheme?

I've heard it won't be until next year or whenever the hybrids are delivered I've heard there will be a fairly substantial delivery of new buses this year to replace the AXs whether they'll be SGs or hybrids that is not yet clear.

I am starting to think though it may be premature to start putting DB buses into TFI livery considering the pretty poor job that the NTA have done of integrating DB and GAI services into the one data base, website etc.

TallGlass

p_haugh wrote: »

Possibly from as early as February is what I heard

I kinda think it's cool having the two colour schemes running around.

The new one has grown on me, glad they kept the yellow front.

Just a bit weird they had to change it. I thought it was fine personally, even just a face lift to it would have done!

I see a bus in Maynooth maybe a local one, thing was like a moving disco with the blue leds on the inside, anyone know what route it was? Single decker if that helps.

Stephen15

TallGlass wrote: »

I see a bus in Maynooth maybe a local one, thing was like a moving disco with the blue leds on the inside, anyone know what route it was? Single decker if that helps.

Party bus perhaps no?

punisher5112

TallGlass wrote: »

I kinda think it's cool having the two colour schemes running around.

The new one has grown on me, glad they kept the yellow front.

Just a bit weird they had to change it. I thought it was fine personally, even just a face lift to it would have done!

I see a bus in Maynooth maybe a local one, thing was like a moving disco with the blue leds on the inside, anyone know what route it was? Single decker if that helps.

Some coaches were fitted with blue interior aisle lighting.

john boye

Stephen15 wrote: »

Party bus perhaps no?

That's the 40

Lucan123

Stephen15 wrote: »

The less than a weeks notice is not ideal but hardly a complete fcuk as you referred to it as.

As the first departure to Blanch is half an hour later, which means you cant use the 239 to get to work on time then you have every right to think it is a mess

Anyone I have mentioned it to was completely unaware of the timetable change - so my guess is there will be a lot of cold frustrated people on Monday morning waiting for the 239 (both ways)

punisher5112

Lucan123 wrote: »

As the first departure to Blanch is half an hour later, which means you cant use the 239 to get to work on time then you have every right to think it is a mess

Anyone I have mentioned it to was completely unaware of the timetable change - so my guess is there will be a lot of cold frustrated people on Monday morning waiting for the 239 (both ways)

This then needs to be brought to the attention of the nta and get enough people to make noise and it will be sorted.

Stephen15

Lucan123 wrote: »

Anyone I have mentioned it to was completely unaware of the timetable change - so my guess is there will be a lot of cold frustrated people on Monday morning waiting for the 239 (both ways)

Are there a lot of people relying on the first 239? First 239 ex Blanch is now at 06:10. Half an hour later may suit more people as more people start work between 07:30 and 08:00 than between 07:00 and 07:30. When the 45a, 59, 63 and 75 moved there was less than a weeks notice too.

Lucan123

Stephen15 wrote: »

Are there a lot of people relying on the first 239? First 239 ex Blanch is now at 06:10. Half an hour later may suit more people as more people start work between 07:30 and 08:00 than between 07:00 and 07:30.

I'm glad you can see my point, as you say more people start work between 07:30 and 08:00, so the new timetable for the 239 will not get people to work on time in Blanch unless their work is on top of the bus stop – the alternative is to leave a lot earlier and go via the city centre

thomasj

TallGlass wrote: »

I kinda think it's cool having the two colour schemes running around.

The new one has grown on me, glad they kept the yellow front.

Just a bit weird they had to change it. I thought it was fine personally, even just a face lift to it would have done!

I see a bus in Maynooth maybe a local one, thing was like a moving disco with the blue leds on the inside, anyone know what route it was? Single decker if that helps.

That's the 139 that runs from Blanchardstown to naas via maynooth. It's operated by JJ kavanagh.

I was looking at the blue lights you mention while waiting on a bus in Blanchardstown last night .