Tesco – the Cuddly Capitalists

BillyBobBS

arayess wrote: »

tesco is far superior in terms of range and quality than the germans.
one also can do a full shop in tesco..

german chains arent without their charm but tesco is a better experience imo

I have a better "experience" with the 80 odd euro we as a family save per week shopping in Aldi thanks very much.

RoboRat

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Tesco's market share is better than Aldi/Lidl's combined tough!

It's not...
Lidl market share is now 12.1%, Aldi is 11.4% and Tesco is 21.9%.
in 2012, Lidl had 6.5%, Aldi had 5.3% and Tesco had 28.6%
Kantar report.

Tesco are losing ground at a serious pace, Supervalu are the big dogs but they have the 'Irish' USP so Tesco has to look elsewhere.

freshpopcorn

RoboRat wrote: »

It's not...
Lidl market share is now 12.1%, Aldi is 11.4% and Tesco is 21.9%.
in 2012, Lidl had 6.5%, Aldi had 5.3% and Tesco had 28.6%
Kantar report.

Tesco are losing ground at a serious pace, Supervalu are the big dogs but they have the 'Irish' USP so Tesco has to look elsewhere.

Sorry, I apologise!

freshpopcorn

BillyBobBS wrote: »

I have a better "experience" with the 80 odd euro we as a family save per week shopping in Aldi thanks very much.

I am always amazed how people saves €80 a week by swapping from Tesco/Dunnes to Lidl/Aldi. If I buy the Tesco own brand items is's fairly compatible to the Lidl/Aldi one's which the Lidl/Aldi use in there surveys!

Permabear

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Marks And Spencer
"We don't sell any Irish meat except a small percentage of chicken, as our major supply base is here in Britain," said a spokeswoman. She said it had always been its policy to stock British beef for reasons of cost. (Source: 'Where's the (Irish) beef? What the (British) supermarkets say')

Permabear wrote: »

M&S states on its website that "we try and source locally wherever possible to deliver the freshest food for our customers." It also says that "all M&S beef comes from our regional suppliers, so we sell Irish beef in Ireland, Welsh beef in Wales and Scottish beef in Scotland."

I don't see anything about a "general policy of not buying from food producers in this state." In fact, they explicitly state that they sell Irish beef in their Irish stores.

The first key word there is "try" and the next ones are "wherever possible" and, most importantly, their definition of "locally". They do indeed "sell Irish beef in Ireland". I said they are by far the worst supermarket chain for supporting food producers in this state. There is a difference; the vast majority of their "Irish food" - much publicised poster of a Tipperary farmer aside - comes from that part of Ireland that is currently still under British rule. If you lived here you could pay a visit to M&S and see for yourself.

M&S defends policy on Irish meat despite recent shortages

Permabear

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You must be reading a different thread because nobody here has demonstrated, amply or not, that Dunnes supports local communities and local societies.

DEFTLEFTHAND

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Jesus, that's fairly awful. I've seen Alan Parker films that were less blatantly manipulative. Someone so obviously sat down and said "must get in a gay couple, some elderly folk, a child with Down Syndrome, a mixed race couple"...it's as if they had a checklist. Mawkish and cynical.

Every company's marketing dept follows this formula these days, it's not just Tesco.

Irish Guitarist

Supermarkets should advertise their products by saying "this is some bread, it costs €1.00".

Stephen15

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I am always amazed how people saves €80 a week by swapping from Tesco/Dunnes to Lidl/Aldi. If I buy the Tesco own brand items is's fairly compatible to the Lidl/Aldi one's which the Lidl/Aldi use in there surveys!

Yes but Tesco's own brand stuff dosen't have nearly the same range or quality as Lidl/Aldi's. Lidl and Aldi don't have as much branded goods either so you don't have the added temptation to buy branded goods.

freshpopcorn

Stephen15 wrote: »

Yes but Tesco's own brand stuff dosen't have nearly the same range or quality as Lidl/Aldi's. Lidl and Aldi don't have as much branded goods either so you don't have the added temptation to buy branded goods.

There's a massive range of Tesco own branded items in my local Tesco anyway.
Quality of own branded items are hit and miss in all supermarkets!

Jawgap

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The first key word there is "try" and the next ones are "wherever possible" and, most importantly, their definition of "locally". They do indeed "sell Irish beef in Ireland". I said they are by far the worst supermarket chain for supporting food producers in this state. There is a difference; the vast majority of their "Irish food" - much publicised poster of a Tipperary farmer aside - comes from that part of Ireland that is currently still under British rule. If you lived here you could pay a visit to M&S and see for yourself.

M&S defends policy on Irish meat despite recent shortages

Seriously? Articles from 10 and 19 years ago? That's your source.....:rolleyes:


Current position.......

https://corporate.marksandspencer.com/plan-a/our-approach/food-and-household/product-standards/raw-materials-commodities-and-ingredients/beef-lamb-venison

All M&S beef comes from our regional suppliers, so we sell Irish beef in Ireland, Welsh beef in Wales and Scottish beef in Scotland. In England, we sell English, Scottish and some Welsh beef – and to avoid any confusion all our fresh beef is labelled with the country of origin and has a flag on the front of the pack.

.....btw, if that's wrong report them......it's an offence under Regulation (EC) No 1760/2000 to make a claim like that without substantiation.

Stephen15

freshpopcorn wrote: »

There's a massive range of Tesco own branded items in my local Tesco anyway.
Quality of own branded items are hit and miss in all supermarkets!

Face it no one will go into Tesco and only buy Tesco own brand goods anyway. Speicial offers and the un-availability will fool them into buying branded goods.

freshpopcorn

Stephen15 wrote: »

Face it no one will go into Tesco and only buy Tesco own brand goods anyway. Speicial offers and the un-availability will fool them into buying branded goods.

My local Tesco is always well stocked with own branded items. If I wanted to I could get nearly all my shopping by purchasing own branded items in Tesco.

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Wibbs

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

It's a large building where you buy things. But that's not important right now.

Hell I'm still recovering from the itch in the centre of my brain from Irish people calling supermarkets/shops "stores", no doubt a few with elongated vowels.

Jawgap

Jawgap wrote: »

Seriously? Articles from 10 and 19 years ago? That's your source.....:rolleyes:


Current position.......

https://corporate.marksandspencer.com/plan-a/our-approach/food-and-household/product-standards/raw-materials-commodities-and-ingredients/beef-lamb-venison

Did you read your link? In my 1998 link, M&S claim "We don't sell any Irish meat except a small percentage of chicken, as our major supply base is here in Britain." In your 2017 link the sole product they say is Irish is beef. Everything else is from the UK, or even New Zealand. So, between 1998 and 2017 M&S has exchanged chicken for beef as their sole Irish meat product. Improvement? And that is almost certainly flattering them as their definition of "Irish beef", as with their definition of "Irish food", is that it comes from the island of Ireland - when in reality the vast majority of it comes from the part of Ireland that's still in the UK.

Compared to every other supermarket chain in Ireland, M&S contribute shag all to the huge agriculture/food industry in this state, as a deeper look at their "Irish food" labels will confirm. Time to pay them a visit and check those labels yourself, I suggest.

Stephen15

freshpopcorn wrote: »

My local Tesco is always well stocked with own branded items. If I wanted to I could get nearly all my shopping by purchasing own branded items in Tesco.

Yes but most people would still be tempted to buy branded products if doing a shop espeically if they are on special offer. Lidl also have a good range of premium products such wines, cheeeses, meats and other premium products that would be cheaper than in Dunnes or Tesco.

Permabear

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Keep trying. Again, it's not the Dunne family who are dipping into their wealth to fund the local community, it's the local staff who are doing it: 'A big shout out and huge thanks to the management and staff of Dunnes Stores who raised a whopping €30,000 through their Christmas Jumper Day 2016 fundraiser'.

You still haven't said why you're ideologically opposed to supermarkets/businesses in a locality sponsoring local clubs and events, by the way.

Jawgap

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Did you read your link? In my 1998 link, M&S claim "We don't sell any Irish meat except a small percentage of chicken, as our major supply base is here in Britain." In your 2017 link the sole product they say is Irish is beef. Everything else is from the UK, or even New Zealand. So, between 1998 and 2017 M&S has exchanged chicken for beef as their sole Irish meat product. Improvement? And that is almost certainly flattering them as their definition of "Irish beef", as with their definition of "Irish food", is that it comes from the island of Ireland - when in reality the vast majority of it comes from the part of Ireland that's still in the UK.

Compared to every other supermarket chain in Ireland, M&S contribute shag all to the huge agriculture/food industry in this state, as a deeper look at their "Irish food" labels will confirm. Time to pay them a visit and check those labels yourself, I suggest.

Yeah, because we don't do that much lamb/sheep meat - so maybe it's a question of accessing supply rather than a policy decision not to take Irish lamb/sheep meat.

Also, check out the health marks on a lot of dairy products sold through multiples and compare them to the manufacturing site......our industry is just as capable as supplying commoditised volumes of products that undergo an economic transformation that sees them change "nationality." So if we're beefing up COOL* then let's start by not pretending that our agrifood sector benefits from the current regime.


*Country of Origin Labelling

Stephen15

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Keep trying. Again, it's not the Dunne family who are dipping into their wealth to fund the local community, it's the local staff who are doing it: 'A big shout out and huge thanks to the management and staff of Dunnes Stores who raised a whopping €30,000 through their Christmas Jumper Day 2016 fundraiser'.

You still haven't said why you're ideologically opposed to supermarkets/businesses in a locality sponsoring local clubs and events, by the way.

Staff and management

snowflaker

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Very similar to a small shop - just more of it.:)

I'm going to come right out with it and say I don't give a rats arse how Tesco or anybody else treat their suppliers - you don't have a god given right to grow turnips, or raise cattle - if you can't make money doing it, do something else plain and simple.

What I care about, is what I can get from them for my hard earned cash. I don't care if it comes from Termonfeckin or Timbuktu. My main concern is me and my family. If Tesco can put the squeeze on poor auld Paddy the turnip man and save me a few quid - then fúck Paddy, you squeeze away Mr. Tesco, squeeze good and tight.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Spider Web

tracey turnblad wrote: »

I worked for Tesco for 20 years... started in quinnsworth. Tesco does so much for the community that they don't talk about. The one I worked in had a clothing section and anything that doesnt sell was given to charity. Sometimes they would just clear a **** load of stuff to zero without putting it into a sale and we would give it to temple st, merchants quay, Regina ceoili etc. They also run a charity of the year and while they don't donate directly they give the charity so much free publicity and chance to have fund raising events etc... they donate stuff to the fund raising sales etc. They also do the blue token for local smaller charities. I know they have their bad points but they do deserve some credit for what they do... Dunnes don't do the same

Yeah I worked there as a teenager and they were very nice.

Countless companies are unethical and use manipulative ads. And people in the west who are anti capitalist are paying for the product or service of at least one of those companies. Why just single out Tesco?

I totally get being anti exploitative greed, but I find this anti capitalist stuff so preachy when it comes from people in the west (often from very comfortable backgrounds themselves) - capitalism means lots of things. My friend complains about capitalism - yet he runs his own business! The free market allows him to do this, and he is, by Marx's definition, a quintessential capitalist.

Not that I'd be paying much heed to the no longer relevant theories of a book written in the mid 1800s.

ben.schlomo

Its just another awful Tesco ad OP, nothing to get to put out over. They had another horrifically irritating ad campaign last Xmas.

sbsquarepants

snowflaker wrote: »

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
.

I would have, but I had to work late that night so as I could pay more for my groceries, but I don't mind, cos Paddy, god bless him, he really wants to grow those turnips, so who am I stand in the way of his dreams!