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18 people convicted sexual exploitation Newcastle

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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Ralf and Florian


    There is a depressingly familiar pattern to these grooming cases involving men who are overwhelmingly South Asian and/or Muslim in English cities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    It is mental. Every couple of weeks it is a new town, with the same story and the same demographic. We are talking about tens of thousands of victims in towns all over the UK.

    It cannot be just a British Muslim thing either. This is going on all over Europe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    not the 17 males and one female of Asian decent who committed the crimes.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/09/newcastle-sex-grooming-network-operation-shelter

    The female is white. Vile looking creature:

    $

    There will be plenty more of these child grooming gangs to come. Tony Blair's Pakistani immigrants are still spawning the next generation of child grooming gangs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    well,

    at least there are 18 less degenerates and sorry excuses for human beings on the streets of Newcastle.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    511 wrote: »
    The female is white. Vile looking creature:

    $

    There will be plenty more of these child grooming gangs to come. Tony Blair's Pakistani immigrants are still spawning the next generation of child grooming gangs.

    They're all pretty vile and disgusting looking to me...

    _97268047_sanctuary_18_comp.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    511 wrote: »
    Tony Blair's Pakistani immigrants are still spawning the next generation of child grooming gangs.

    Why is Tony Blair to blame for this? its not like its Eastern European abuse gangs that are the big problem in England. Labour in general do deserve some blame for their silencing of these issues in the 2000's but on the flip side there was also MP's like Anne Cryer raising the issue.

    What I am expecting is for one of these arrests to go wrong and certain sections of the media to go mental about profiling, ignoring the fact that in each of these trials there have been numerous examples of the police doing nothing at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,371 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    the outrage on Twitter from the far left

    proof that it's the "far left" engaging in the outrage please, rather then a mix of people from many different political, or even no political persuasion at all.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    proof that it's the "far left" engaging in the outrage please, rather then a mix of people from many different political, or even no political persuasion at all.

    So your first reaction to this story is that somone is impugning " the left" and you are obliged to give the standard "give me a link" answer. while not at all concerned about the story of kids being raped by your preferred victim group
    I think you just proved the op's point about left wing priorities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    511 wrote: »
    The female is white. Vile looking creature:

    $

    Are we sure she is actually female?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    They're all pretty vile and disgusting looking to me...

    _97268047_sanctuary_18_comp.jpg


    there are some very odd shaped heads in that photo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    They all look pretty f*cking inbred to me.


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    jimboblep wrote: »
    So your first reaction to this story is that somone is impugning " the left" and you are obliged to give the standard "give me a link" answer. while not at all concerned about the story of kids being raped by your preferred victim group
    I think you just proved the op's point about left wing priorities.

    The OP didn't refer to the victims either...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    There is a depressingly familiar pattern to these grooming cases involving men who are overwhelmingly South Asian and/or Muslim in English cities.

    SHHHHHHHHH!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    It cannot be just a British Muslim thing either. This is going on all over Europe.

    Considering Rotterdam was 1,400 victims I think we can safely say all these together will be a huge number.

    Also sad to say, my friend, it is a Muslim thing (this was a major factor in why nobody could report or focus on it, so sorry, but please don't fall into that trap).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,371 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    jimboblep wrote: »
    So your first reaction to this story is that somone is impugning " the left" and you are obliged to give the standard "give me a link" answer. while not at all concerned about the story of kids being raped by your preferred victim group

    he made a claim and i'm asking for proof. i don't need to write on a website that i condemn something to prove i condemn it or to show i'm concerned.
    jimboblep wrote: »
    I think you just proved the op's point about left wing priorities.

    i didn't because his point is incorrect. it would be like me suggesting that the right are only concerned about the colour of skin/nationality/religion of the people who cary out attacks.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    scopper wrote: »
    Considering Rotterdam was 1,400 victims I think we can safely say all these together will be a huge number.

    Also sad to say, my friend, it is a Muslim thing (this was a major factor in why nobody could report or focus on it, so sorry, but please don't fall into that trap).

    I'm assuming that was an auto correct.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    If anyone is interested in the history of this then this overview is good. It is worth noting this all goes back to the late 80s/90s.

    It just become more popular because social services/police were too afraid to deal with it due to racism fears: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/three-girls-drama-child-sexual-exploitation-rochdale-blackpool-pimping-a7739006.html

    I would expect to see a steady clip of prosecutions over the next 5-10 years, some historical, some current.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    Grayson wrote: »
    I'm assuming that was an auto correct.

    Yep, Rotherham, of course.

    If you google it the second link is a wiki on these gangs. Man what a rep for a city to have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    scopper wrote: »
    Yep, Rotherham, of course.

    If you google it the second link is a wiki on these gangs. Man what a rep for a city to have.

    I've heard of the case. I just hadn't heard of Rotterdam. I googled it and google suggested Rotheram :)

    (Edit to say: Obviously I've heard of Rotterdam, just not a case there)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    Grayson wrote: »
    I've heard of the case. I just hadn't heard of Rotterdam. I googled it and google suggested Rotheram :)

    I suspect I'm not the first to have that autocorrected :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    he made a claim and i'm asking for proof. i don't need to write on a website that i condemn something to prove i condemn it or to show i'm concerned.



    i didn't because his point is incorrect. it would be like me suggesting that the right are only concerned about the colour of skin/nationality/religion of the people who cary out attacks.
    Which i have seen you do in several posts(oh i know you will ask me to show these but i wont they're there if anyone wants to check)
    Apart from that i am still amazed you dont see the irony in your post, that the most salient point to address was a possible attack on left wing ideology.
    But anyway lifes too short and the sun is shining


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    scopper wrote: »
    Considering Rotterdam was 1,400 victims I think we can safely say all these together will be a huge number.

    Also sad to say, my friend, it is a Muslim thing (this was a major factor in why nobody could report or focus on it, so sorry, but please don't fall into that trap).

    That's what I was alluding to, as in its not just British Muslims, it is going on all over Europe where there are even moderate sized Muslim communities.

    We are talking about tens of thousands of young girls in the UK. The figure across Europe are probably in the hundreds of thousands.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    scopper wrote: »
    Considering Rotterdam was 1,400 victims I think we can safely say all these together will be a huge number.

    Also sad to say, my friend, it is a Muslim thing (this was a major factor in why nobody could report or focus on it, so sorry, but please don't fall into that trap).

    That's what I was alluding to, as in its not just British Muslims, it is going on all over Europe where there are even moderate sized Muslim communities.

    We are talking about tens of thousands of young girls in the UK. The figure across Europe are probably in the hundreds of thousands.
    Disproportionately Muslims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 snmp


    Coming soon unfortunately to an Irish city/town brought to you by the same type of virtue signalers multicultural advocates that foisted it upon England and its children.
    If you have sister , daughter, cousin tell her that these people come from a culture that by and large view young white girls as dirt, fit to be used/exploited. Don't let this be repeated again. This is one case of thousands the lid is only been lifted off now, bring justice swift and fast!
    The attitude of looking the other way and not wanting to appear intolerant allowed this to prevail, failed these children - its all about image/perception from those on the left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    OP you should've mention Asian or the M word in your thread title. Would've got way more clicks and thus more outrage and in-fighting on the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    South Asia...

    If a white English guy did it, you'd get his home town and street, hospital he was born in, his religious faith, his blood type and acces to his dental records.

    We can have open debates on Catholic child abuse and Catholic opposition to abortion.

    But we can't discuss Islam issue to gender inequality and countless sex rings exploitation against young white girls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 snmp


    Nabber wrote: »
    South Asia...

    If a white English guy did it, you'd get his home town and street, hospital he was born in, his religious faith, his blood type and acces to his dental records.

    We can have open debates on Catholic child abuse and Catholic opposition to abortion.

    But we can't discuss Islam issue to gender inequality and countless sex rings exploitation against young white girls.


    Likewise we'll never have the debate about how the liberal abortion regime in UK helped to cover up this and other cases of child abuse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,371 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Nabber wrote: »
    South Asia...

    If a white English guy did it, you'd get his home town and street, hospital he was born in, his religious faith, his blood type and acces to his dental records.

    We can have open debates on Catholic child abuse and Catholic opposition to abortion.

    But we can't discuss Islam issue to gender inequality and countless sex rings exploitation against young white girls.


    well you mentioned such so clearly you can in fact discuss it.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    It really is a pity that the focus of todays news is about the police using an undercover himself convicted sex offender to infiltrate the gang which led to the convictions.

    Because the real top story is the undeniable realisation that their exists multiple gangs of child rapists throughout the UK who are of Pakistani and Indian origin who identify as Muslim. It is what was suspected after the Rotherham case and after 4 years of investigation in Newcastle it has been show that Rotherham was not a one-off and the fact that they were all of Asian origin was not some irreverent fact.

    What this undoubtedly proves is that the friends and relations of these Asian gangs did absolutely nothing to expose the activities of the rapists which they could not in their entirety claim to be blissfully unaware of. Because no one in the peace loving Muslim community came forward to expose these ppl it forced the police to send in a spy to act as an informant.

    Absolutely appealing state of affairs. Again I'm appalled at SKY News for focusing on the NSPCC's objection to the police using an informant detracting from real undeniable story of a Muslim asian sub-culture who behave contrary to the host culture and if that is not enough have spokespeople who even on this day of all days have the gall to go on live television and argue that these types of things occur in all cultures and their is no specific problem is the Muslim community.

    And while I'm at it I think the NSPCC are a bunch of idiots. They are way out of their dept to comment on cases such as these. They should keep their mouths shut and focus on more domestic child care issues if they are even capable of doing that adequately.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭YourSuperior


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    They're all pretty vile and disgusting looking to me...

    _97268047_sanctuary_18_comp.jpg

    Yeah although if someone just saw the pictures without knowing what happened they might use the word ugly or something like that -- not usually loaded words like 'vile' and 'disgusting'.

    It's like when some comment on pictures of convicted murderers - they look 'evil'. What would they say without knowing? What's the psychology going on here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Nabber wrote: »
    South Asia...

    If a white English guy did it, you'd get his home town and street, hospital he was born in, his religious faith, his blood type and acces to his dental records.

    We can have open debates on Catholic child abuse and Catholic opposition to abortion.

    But we can't discuss Islam issue to gender inequality and countless sex rings exploitation against young white girls.

    Whatever there background from what I can tell reading it they hold British passports?


    However with all the publicity of these you'd hope that anyone being victims of these gangs would have no issue In coming forward?


    108 victims is a lot, hope they get the max jailtime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    So the police have used a sex offender as an informant... But isn't this type of thing the way police always got info?

    Like if the police want to go after people making hash in houses etc. The informant they manage to get will have a record a mile long. Someone who will know people and what's going on. Not some randomer off the street who knows nothing.

    I don't get it. This is nothing new. People want these scum and perverts off the streets. This is how police catch them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Its happening here too, but you see that's what the Police and Garda are up against is the sheer outrage from some on the left who take more outrage on people trying catch these people then the actual scum doing it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Its happening here too, but you see that's what the Police and Garda are up against is the sheer outrage from some on the left who take more outrage on people trying catch these people then the actual scum doing it.

    If you have evidence this is happening go to the guards

    You can rest assured the guards will act


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    And people laughed at Tommy Robinson for calling this out years ago.

    The Journal.ie of course has disabled comments on this on their website. Right then I knew this was Muslim perverts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,371 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    AllForIt wrote: »
    It really is a pity that the focus of todays news is about the police using an undercover himself convicted sex offender to infiltrate the gang which led to the convictions.

    Because the real top story is the undeniable realisation that their exists multiple gangs of child rapists throughout the UK who are of Pakistani and Indian origin who identify as Muslim. It is what was suspected after the Rotherham case and after 4 years of investigation in Newcastle it has been show that Rotherham was not a one-off and the fact that they were all of Asian origin was not some irreverent fact.

    What this undoubtedly proves is that the friends and relations of these Asian gangs did absolutely nothing to expose the activities of the rapists which they could not in their entirety claim to be blissfully unaware of. Because no one in the peace loving Muslim community came forward to expose these ppl it forced the police to send in a spy to act as an informant.

    Absolutely appealing state of affairs. Again I'm appalled at SKY News for focusing on the NSPCC's objection to the police using an informant detracting from real undeniable story of a Muslim asian sub-culture who behave contrary to the host culture and if that is not enough have spokespeople who even on this day of all days have the gall to go on live television and argue that these types of things occur in all cultures and their is no specific problem is the Muslim community.

    And while I'm at it I think the NSPCC are a bunch of idiots. They are way out of their dept to comment on cases such as these. They should keep their mouths shut and focus on more domestic child care issues if they are even capable of doing that adequately.

    whereas you are way in your department to comment on cases such as these, dispite not having access to the same amount of information and evidential material that the NSPCC would have?
    their job is to focus on all child care issues so they won't be shutting up.
    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    And people laughed at Tommy Robinson for calling this out years ago.

    he wasn't the only one who mentioned it however. it just so happened that him being a violent thug and a racist meant he, well, had no credibility.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    whereas you are way in your department to comment on cases such as these, dispite not having access to the same amount of information and evidential material that the NSPCC would have?
    their job is to focus on all child care issues so they won't be shutting up.



    he wasn't the only one who mentioned it however. it just so happened that him being a violent thug and a racist meant he, well, had no credibility.

    He has more credibility than a lot of the police and media that tried to cover a lot of Muslim pedo gangs crimes up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,371 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    He has more credibility than a lot of the police and media that tried to cover a lot of Muslim pedo gangs crimes up.

    oh no, he really doesn't. all of them him included should have the key thrown away.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭Matt.ie


    Stop calling them Asian gangs. They are Muslims. Muslim pedophiles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Matt.ie wrote: »
    Stop calling them Asian gangs. They are Muslims. Muslim pedophiles.

    Or we could call em British?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 Luis B


    Or we could call em British?

    Regards
    Labour councillor


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭Matt.ie


    Or we could call em British?

    Or we could call em British?


    You could do and gloss over the cultural behaviour of Muslims in gang raping of white children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,371 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Luis B wrote: »
    Regards
    Labour councillor


    nope. wrong.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 Luis B


    nope. wrong.

    Labour scum were too afraid of offending Pakistanis to do anything. They'd rather see white children gang raped.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Matt.ie wrote: »
    You could do and gloss over the cultural behaviour of Muslims in gang raping of white children.

    I've seen no evidence to suggest victims are white?

    Either way what deos it matter whether there white or any other race,shouldn't be happening??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 Luis B


    I've seen no evidence to suggest victims are white?

    Either way what deos it matter whether there white or any other race,shouldn't be happening??

    It's fact that these cases always involve brown men preying on white girls. Why the hell should the racial aspect be covered up, because it makes you uncomfortable? They've hid this **** for years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    oh no, he really doesn't. all of them him included should have the key thrown away.

    Tommy is a bit of a thug alright but to compare that to people who cover up for pedo's is laughable. There is nothing more vile on this planet than kiddy fiddlers and anyone who defends them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭Matt.ie


    Either way what deos it matter whether there white or any other race,shouldn't be happening??

    I've seen no evidence to suggest victims are white?

    Tom,perhaps you are not aware of numerous other rape gangs and their ethnic background? You may also not know that the victims of these paedophile gangs are primarily white girls,mostly teenagers and mostly vulnerable children.

    Do you have a problem accepting this as fact?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Luis B wrote: »
    It's fact that these cases always involve brown men preying on white girls. Why the hell should the racial aspect be covered up, because it makes you uncomfortable? They've hid this **** for years.

    So you have no evidence

    Just pure made it up??
    Where have I said the racial aspect should be covered up?(more fantasy!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    Unbelievable that posters in here attempt to deflect from the fact the UK (and maybe soon Ireland) have a major issue with Muslim pedo's praying on innocent young girls. These animals should have their balls out off and fed to them smeared in dog s h it. I'm pretty much sick to death of the PC world we live in where people are unable to call a spade a spade.


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