Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

seligehgit · 05-08-2018 07:06PM

I don't think any Mayo fans are condoning Flynn's behaviour before we get a bad case of the faux outrage.

He deserves a ban and will hopefully learn from it.

muddle84 · 05-08-2018 07:10PM

IsMiseJoe wrote: »

SecretsOfEarth wrote: »

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmGupwRlVLy/?hl=en&taken-by=justgaathings

That Flynn incident was ridiculous, I had just switched back over from the hurling when he was being sent off. What actually triggered it? He seemed to be completely incensed all of a sudden.

Disgraceful carry on. He should be receive a long ban. Behaviour like that has no place in any sport.

Didnt he push the ref before he grabbed the kikdare lad by the neck too?

seligehgit · 05-08-2018 07:17PM

PressRun wrote: »

Didn't manage to see the match. How did Oisin McLoughlin play? He needs a lot of bulking up, but I thought he might be a prospect for the future.

Scored a point in the first half.

Took two more shots on when he should have laid the ball off to team mates in better positions.

He appears a bit small to make the transition but who knows.

Loafing Oaf · 05-08-2018 07:18PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Didnt he push the ref before he grabbed the kikdare lad by the neck too?

After IIRC

SecretsOfEarth · 05-08-2018 07:24PM

Is Johnny Maughan any relation to his (almost) namesake John Maughan?

muddle84 · 05-08-2018 07:30PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

muddle84 wrote: »

Didnt he push the ref before he grabbed the kikdare lad by the neck too?

After IIRC

I thought i saw a first push before hand and again after.

muddle84 · 05-08-2018 07:30PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

muddle84 wrote: »

Didnt he push the ref before he grabbed the kikdare lad by the neck too?

After IIRC

I thought i saw a first push before hand and again after.

Loafing Oaf · 05-08-2018 08:02PM

SecretsOfEarth wrote: »

Is Johnny Maughan any relation to his (almost) namesake John Maughan?

Yep son

Loafing Oaf · 05-08-2018 08:08PM

muddle84 wrote: »

I thought i saw a first push before hand and again after.

Just watched it again, the main shove on the ref was as he was walking off but maybe there was an earlier on. Shame we don't have a Gaeilgeoir Jonathan Pearce to memorialize the incident the way it deserves.:P
https://twitter.com/secondcaptains/status/957955114643460096?lang=en

seligehgit · 05-08-2018 08:33PM

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

What was flynn being sent off for? I missed that bit. You could see by solans reaction that he feared the worst once flynn got involved. He must be a bit hot headed.
Mayo fans wont let themselves down with the blame-everyone-but-our-man bullsh*t that has gone before, his actions were disgraceful and he deserves his expected 12 week ban, no excuses or mediating factors.

Re horan playing well, wasnt he the guy who was marking hyland once maughan went off? An unenviable task I accept, but it is a bit of a stretch to say he done well. His man scored a hatful.

I thought we needed to get conroy into the game more.I wouldnt be rushing out to give solan the senior job either. He left his fb line isolated for the whole game. The kildare ff line was much vaunted going into this game. We have had enough of that naive kind of thinking.

O'Donoghue looks an excellent prospect I believe. Lambert was good too

That was very alarming, it's was glaringly obvious from the get go we were in the big trouble in full back line.

SecretsOfEarth · 05-08-2018 08:41PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Yep son

Thanks, initially presumed as much but seemed too obvious!

megadodge · 05-08-2018 09:59PM

muddle84 wrote: »

I thought i saw a first push before hand and again after.

You definitely did.

It happened right in front of me. After the ref gave a free to Kildare, he stormed over to the ref, had words and pushed him hard. Then the rest you saw on that clip.

TommyDe · 05-08-2018 10:34PM

SecretsOfEarth wrote:

That Flynn incident was ridiculous, I had just switched back over from the hurling when he was being sent off. What actually triggered it? He seemed to be completely incensed all of a sudden.

there's a video on line. it looks like the kildare lad spat at him, hence the rage. If it's true the kildare lad didn't get half enough.
No reason ever to push the ref even if the spit happened in front of him.

The Talking Bread · 05-08-2018 10:37PM

TommyDe wrote: »

there's a video on line. it looks like the kildare lad spat at him, hence the rage. If it's true the kildare lad didn't get half enough.
No reason ever to push the ref even if the spit happened in front of him.

link

TommyDe · 05-08-2018 10:54PM

The Talking Bread wrote:

link

My last few posts with a link didn't go through. look at video on line.
5-9 seconds. instant rage

The Talking Bread · 05-08-2018 10:57PM

There is absolutely no way he spat on him. Referee staring at them centimetres away.

If you can see him spitting here and the re can't, the ref needs serious eye test.

He obviously took the shield out, as many players do during a break in play and mouthed something unsavoury at him. That's about it.

https://twitter.com/KevinCrowleykc/status/1026100016723705856

TommyDe · 05-08-2018 11:02PM

The Talking Bread wrote:

He obviously took the shield out, as many players do during a break in play and mouthed something unsavoury at him. That's about it.

There was no time to mouth something in 2 seconds. Ever take a gum shield out and talk immediately... it comes out like blughhh blughhh.
that's why he was pointing at the ref before pushing him as he was going off .

by the way I'm not condoning pushing the ref. I think that explains the instant rage.

km79 · 05-08-2018 11:05PM

Ah come of it
There is absolutely no way the Kildare lad spat at him

He completely and utterly lost the head
No excuses
He will get a ban
Serve it
And move on

The Talking Bread · 05-08-2018 11:12PM

of course you can say something in 2 seconds! Try it! Do you seriously! In fact it would be harder to garner a spit than it would be to insult someone in a couple of seconds. Do you honestly think a ref would ignore someone spitting,! He is staring at them! He doesn't even plead his case to the ref!

megadodge · 05-08-2018 11:15PM

TommyDe wrote: »

My last few posts with a link didn't go through. look at video on line.
5-9 seconds. instant rage

Instant rage? The rage was already present - he had just very aggressively mouthed at the referee and then pushed him!!! That's right, he pushed the ref twice!

TommyDe · 05-08-2018 11:23PM

km79 wrote:

He completely and utterly lost the head No excuses He will get a ban Serve it And move on

What made him lose the head though? Look at the kildare guys head movements in those 2 seconds.
The more times I watch it the more I'm convinced.

Anytime I've seen lads completely loose it beyond reason is because of spitting.
That's just My 2 cent worth. I could be wrong, and I'll hold my hands up if that's the case.

I'm not condoning or excusing it, just trying to explain it with what I think happened.

The reaction was way OTT. He will be punished severely and he will know more than anyone how wrong he was to push the ref.

megadodge · 05-08-2018 11:34PM

TommyDe wrote: »

What made him lose the head though? Look at the kildare guys head movements in those 2 seconds.
The more times I watch it the more I'm convinced.

Anytime I've seen lads completely loose it beyond reason is because of spitting.
That's just My 2 cent worth. I could be wrong, and I'll hold my hands up if that's the case.

I'm not condoning or excusing it, just trying to explain it with what I think happened.

The reaction was way OTT. He will be punished severely and he will know more than anyone how wrong he was to push the ref.

Have you just ignored what I posted above for some reason?

You seem to think the ref sent him off for his grabbing of the Kildare player's throat. No it wasn't!

HE HAD ALREADY PUSHED THE REFEREE! The camera just didn't catch it. I was sitting very close to it and saw it all.

If you look at that clip above, the Mayo mentor is pointing to somebody, then he puts his head in his hands. Why? Because he saw the first push and knew what it meant. It's that simple.

Plus there was no spit. Whey would there be? You're up by three points in an All-Ireland final with only two minutes left, an opposition player is about to very obviously get sent off and the referee is standing beside you. Think about it.

The Talking Bread · 05-08-2018 11:36PM

He had already pushed the referee and was being sent off before the Kildare player goaded him and invited the reactionary throat grab.

Then he pushed him again walking off. Kildare player obviously said something smart at him. Even something simple like cheerio could have set him off in the heat of the moment given the occasion.

You can see the Mayo manager's and the Mayo fans' behind the manager respective shocked sudden reaction just before it cut to the 3 of them after he had pushed the ref the first time.

There is absolutely no way he spat at him, otherwise he would be seeing red himself.

km79 · 05-08-2018 11:40PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

He had already pushed the referee and was being sent off before the Kildare player goaded him and invited the reactionary throat grab.

Then he pushed him again walking off. Kildare player obviously said something smart at him. Even something simple like cheerio could have set him off in the heat of the moment given the occasion.

You can see the Mayo managers shocked sudden reaction just before it cut to the 3 of them after he had pushed the ref the first time.

There is absolutely no way he spat at him, otherwise he would be seeing red himself.

100%
The red mist well and truly descended and stayed down
No defending it

km79 · 05-08-2018 11:41PM

TommyDe wrote: »

What made him lose the head though? Look at the kildare guys head movements in those 2 seconds.
The more times I watch it the more I'm convinced.

Anytime I've seen lads completely loose it beyond reason is because of spitting.
That's just My 2 cent worth. I could be wrong, and I'll hold my hands up if that's the case.

I'm not condoning or excusing it, just trying to explain it with what I think happened.

The reaction was way OTT. He will be punished severely and he will know more than anyone how wrong he was to push the ref.

Come of it
He was already sent off!!!!!

Fr Tod Umptious · 05-08-2018 11:41PM

megadodge wrote: »

Have you just ignored what I posted above for some reason?

You seem to think the ref sent him off for his grabbing of the Kildare player's throat. No it wasn't!

HE HAD ALREADY PUSHED THE REFEREE! The camera just didn't catch it. I was sitting very close to it and saw it all.

If you look at that clip above, the Mayo mentor is pointing to somebody, then he puts his head in his hands. Why? Because he saw the first push and knew what it meant. It's that simple.

Plus there was no spit. Whey would there be? You're up by three points in an All-Ireland final with only two minutes left, an opposition player is about to very obviously get sent off and the referee is standing beside you. Think about it.

And that then makes sense of the clip of Solan losing his mind on the sideline, he saw the first push on the ref, by the time the camera angle changed we got to see the push on the player and the second push on the ref.

TCDStudent1 · 05-08-2018 11:43PM

megadodge wrote: »

Have you just ignored what I posted above for some reason?

You seem to think the ref sent him off for his grabbing of the Kildare player's throat. No it wasn't!

HE HAD ALREADY PUSHED THE REFEREE! The camera just didn't catch it. I was sitting very close to it and saw it all.

If you look at that clip above, the Mayo mentor is pointing to somebody, then he puts his head in his hands. Why? Because he saw the first push and knew what it meant. It's that simple.

Plus there was no spit. Whey would there be? You're up by three points in an All-Ireland final with only two minutes left, an opposition player is about to very obviously get sent off and the referee is standing beside you. Think about it.

Why did he push him initially? Was it a bad decision or what happened? I've only seen the clip above as I was watching the hurling today.

Speakerboxx · 05-08-2018 11:47PM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Why did he push him initially? Was it a bad decision or what happened? I've only seen the clip above as I was watching the hurling today.

disgraceful carry on by that player. he Lost the head. Must always keep your cool at this game.

megadodge · 06-08-2018 12:03AM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Why did he push him initially? Was it a bad decision or what happened? I've only seen the clip above as I was watching the hurling today.

Kildare were under pressure and had worked the ball out of their defense and a Kildare player was fouled (it looked a free to me, but I cannot be certain) going for the ball while under pressure. It was a 'relieving' free for Kildare. The Mayo player then went ape**** with the referee, approached him very aggressively while mouthing and pushed him. The rest is on the clip above.

Stoner · 06-08-2018 10:07AM

Looked at the clip. I think the spitting is fake news.

There is no evidence of a spit, and the lad didn't wipe his face.

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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