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Donald Trump Presidency discussion thread II

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    #242
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,135 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Chaos and strife are key elements of Bannon's beliefs. but he is a side show to the main issues, at this point.


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    #243
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Inquitus wrote: »
    The delusion is strong today, spare a thought for Rosenstein who appears to be destined to go under a bus shortly!

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875732813278048256

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875701471999864833

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875698062030778368

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875690204564258816

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875682853585129472

    Has he lost all semblance if sanity?


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    #244
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,547 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    He's reversed some of the Obama treaties the US has with Cuba, saying they're completely one sided. The tourist and business trade with Cuban Govt - banned. No cultural deals on a one-to-one person basis, as exist between family now. He say's he's fulfilling his election promises. He won Florida by 1.2 percent.


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    #245
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 12,995 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    aloyisious wrote: »
    He's reversed some of the Obama treaties the US has with Cuba, saying they're completely one sided. The tourist and business trade with Cuban Govt - banned. No cultural deals on a one-to-one person basis, as exist between family now. He say's he's fulfilling his election promises. He won Florida by 1.2 percent.
    Including one that, now removed will make it impossible for Marriott to build a hotel....


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    #246
    ECO_Mental
    Registered Users Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    circadian wrote: »
    Trump's personal lawyer hires an attorney

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/338139-trumps-personal-lawyer-hires-attorney-report

    :):) things must me bad if your lawyer is "lawyering up".... brilliant

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



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    #247
    PopePalpatine
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    That reminds me Igotadose, what industries is the Trump Organisation involved in again?


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    #248
    Igotadose
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    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    That reminds me Igotadose, what industries is the Trump Organisation involved in again?

    The President can't have conflicts of interest. Trump says so ergo it must be true....


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    #249
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Igotadose wrote: »
    The President can't have conflicts of interest. Trump says so ergo it must be true....

    The solution is obvious. Raul should just ask him to build a hotel in Havana. Sanctions lifted.


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    #250
    BabyCheeses
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    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    That's a Rasmussen poll which is always an outlier. Every other recent poll puts his approval rating in the thirties including yesterday's Associated Press poll which has him at 35%.

    Sure but if your outlier is saying 50% I wouldnt brag about it.


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    #251
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    BabyCheeses wrote: »
    Sure but if your outlier is saying 50% I wouldnt brag about it.

    When it's all you've got...


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    #252
    InTheTrees
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    ECO_Mental wrote: »
    :):) things must me bad if your lawyer is "lawyering up".... brilliant

    And considering Trumps lawyer is just a real estate specialist its more than likely trumps lawyers lawyer knows more about government and constitutional law than trumps lawyer.

    It all gets weirder and weirder.

    And the reason he's still using his new york real estate lawyer is that none of the big washington DC law firms want to work with him.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/four-major-law-firms-declined-to-represent-trump-on-russia-report/article/2625112


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    #253
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,547 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The Washington Post is running three stories but as I'm not a subscriber all I can copy and post is the following. The 1st is already mentioned above by others...............


    Trump appears to confirm obstruction probe, attacks Rosenstein in tweets
    The president fired off a rant of tweets attacking the special counsel's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, and apparently, Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein.
    By Abby Phillip

    ........................................................................................

    Justice Department: Rosenstein sees no reason to recuse himself.

    ........................................................................................

    Pence’s balancing act as Trump’s No. 2 shows signs of strain amid White House turmoil
    The vice president and his team have made moves that seem aimed, in part, at returning him to his most comfortable role — supporting and defending the president — while also helping to insulate him from the administration’s problems.
    By Ashley Parke

    ..................................................................................

    CNN is covering Don's tweet and speculating that Ron might be called as a witness as he's the person who wrote the letter advising Don to fire J Comey and got himself snared in the russian collusion investigation side issues, due to Don's varying claims as to why he fired Comey.

    Plus Don earned $288 million from his business's according to his business earnings returns released today, but no tax returns..... yet.


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    #254
    Igotadose
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    aloyisious wrote: »
    The Washington Post is running three stories but as I'm not a subscriber all I can copy and post is the following. The 1st is already mentioned above by others...............

    Thanks for taking the trouble to summarize. I try & summarize the articles I link to in order for folks to not hit paywalls should they follow the link or not to have to bother reading the full article.


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    #255
    Itssoeasy
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    So, as we hit the middle of June can the most ardent of trump supporters on the thread, admit that the VP and trumps personal lawyer lawyering up is a bad sign ?

    For a "witch hunt" it's looking fairly serious truth be told.


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    #256
    Water John
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    The appointment of Mueller by Rosenstein and Comey, in their diff ways, has totally changed the dynamic. This is a process that will not stop and will dig very deep.
    Trump will rue the day, he fired Comey. It was stupid.


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    #257
    BabyCheeses
    Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    So, as we hit the middle of June can the most ardent of trump supporters on the thread, admit that the VP and trumps personal lawyer lawyering up is a bad sign ?

    For a "witch hunt" it's looking fairly serious truth be told.

    The dems lost seats in their midterm with Obama, very odd hmmm?


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    #258
    JRant
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    So, as we hit the middle of June can the most ardent of trump supporters on the thread, admit that the VP and trumps personal lawyer lawyering up is a bad sign ?

    For a "witch hunt" it's looking fairly serious truth be told.

    Not sure if serious or not but you would need to be a complete numpty not to lawyer up at this stage if you were in their shoes. Anyway, employing a lawyer is not a bad sign at all just prudent.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    #259
    Really Interested
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    JRant wrote: »
    Not sure if serious or not but you would need to be a complete numpty not to lawyer up at this stage if you were in their shoes. Anyway, employing a lawyer is not a bad sign at all just prudent.

    While I agree it is prudent, the big question is will Donald follow the advice of his lawyer. I would assume such advice would be all written communications are run by the lawyer before publication.


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    #260
    Memnoch
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    Water John wrote: »
    The appointment of Mueller by Rosenstein and Comey, in their diff ways, has totally changed the dynamic. This is a process that will not stop and will dig very deep.
    Trump will rue the day, he fired Comey. It was stupid.

    He didn't have a choice really. Comey wasn't going to protect him and was going to slowly but surely expose the truth. So he was going to try and prevent that no matter what. That he's snookered either way shows just how far down the rabbit hole this all goes.


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    #261
    Overheal
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    JRant wrote: »
    Not sure if serious or not but you would need to be a complete numpty not to lawyer up at this stage if you were in their shoes. Anyway, employing a lawyer is not a bad sign at all just prudent.

    You know who never needed to lawyer up in 8 years? Two guesses.


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    #262
    JRant
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    Overheal wrote: »
    You know who never needed to lawyer up in 8 years? Two guesses.

    Me? :)

    You don't mean the great race baiter himself, Obama?
    Sure why would he need to lawyer up when he had an AG who described himself as his right hand man.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    #263
    Christy42
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    JRant wrote: »
    Me? :)

    You don't mean the great race baiter himself, Obama?
    Sure why would he need to lawyer up when he had an AG who described himself as his right hand man.

    You, you know that Trump is not lawyering up over pressure from his AG who seems quite loyal to him.

    Therefore your logic that Obama only did not need to lawyer up because he had a loyal AG is complete and utter bull. It is a passing attempt at a counterargument that kinda looks alright at first reading and falls to shreds the moment you think about it for 3 seconds.

    Not too sure why you had to stick in the dog whistle in there but I will leave that bit alone and not give the desired reaction.


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    #264
    JRant
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    Christy42 wrote: »
    You, you know that Trump is not lawyering up over pressure from his AG who seems quite loyal to him.

    Therefore your logic that Obama only did not need to lawyer up because he had a loyal AG is complete and utter bull. It is a passing attempt at a counterargument that kinda looks alright at first reading and falls to shreds the moment you think about it for 3 seconds.

    Not too sure why you had to stick in the dog whistle in there but I will leave that bit alone and not give the desired reaction.

    I see humour has died around these here parts :(

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    #265
    WinnyThePoo
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    JRant wrote: »
    I see humour has died around these here parts :(

    No humour in what you said.


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    #266
    JRant
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    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    No humour in what you said.

    To you maybe. It was a parody on a Donald tweet. After all the chap has had a meltdown on twitter these past couple of days and these last few pages have been all about that.

    Seems I put the smiley in the wrong place in fairness but the eagerness of folks around here to jump on any posts is slightly disconcerting to be honest. Good to know the thought police are keeping tabs.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    #267
    Billy86
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    JRant wrote: »
    To you maybe. It was a parody on a Donald tweet. After all the chap has had a meltdown on twitter these past couple of days and these last few pages have been all about that.

    Seems I put the smiley in the wrong place in fairness but the eagerness of folks around here to jump on any posts is slightly disconcerting to be honest. Good to know the thought police are keeping tabs.

    I'll take my hat off to you, because that post was *exactly* what Trump fans would and do post with complete seriousness all over the internet. You basically did what The Onion does sometimes when it gets reported as real news and just got the satire way, way, way too accurately 'dead on'. :D


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    #268
    JRant
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    I'll take my hat off to you, because that post was *exactly* what Trump fans would and do post with complete seriousness all over the internet. You basically did what The Onion does sometimes when it gets reported as real news and just got the satire way, way, way too accurately 'dead on'. :D

    Billy, I shall take that as a compliment :)

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    #269
    Call me Al
    Registered Users Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    BabyCheeses wrote: »
    The dems lost seats in their midterm with Obama, very odd hmmm?

    And yet somehow he managed not to be find himself the subject of federal investigation!

    It takes a special level of incompetence, despite your party having both other houses, to find yourself in that situation....


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    #270
    StringerBell
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    BabyCheeses wrote: »
    The dems lost seats in their midterm with Obama, very odd hmmm?

    Are you saying you don't know why?

    I would find it odd that anybody with even a passing interest in US politics doesn't get why the Dems lost the house in 2010 and the senate in 14

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #271
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    JRant wrote: »
    Billy, I shall take that as a compliment :)
    'Twas intended as one. :p

    Damnit now BabyCheeses has done it too, for the second time in a week if I'm correct. We live in confusing interesting times indeed. :o


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