** LC Irish 2017 - discussion

wanderer100

What poems and proses are you guys studying for Irish. Any predictions??

gavinoontheweb

wanderer100 wrote: »

What poems and proses are you guys studying for Irish. Any predictions??

Assuming Ardleibhéal
I'd say Géibheann and Gnáth together are unlikely but we should get one of them, outside of those I'm going over Spailpín, Mo-Ghrá Sa and Hurlamaboc, Dís.

Msrebeckyxo

Hi! So I need some assistance with Irish and History if someone could help- im HL for both!
I've left Irish until the last minute but have learnt off my Dioma story, so guaranteed at least 14% there.
If I learn off Acoimhres (summaries) for the prose and poetry should I get some marks? I'm not aiming for the full 30 marks just want something instead of leaving the question blank!
For history I'm learning off essays instead of learning pointless info, is this a good idea?

Milkyway7798

For the Irish stories and poems my teacher didn't really give us a lot of notes? I have the gleasnotaí book but I cannot understand the notes as they're not translated. Do you think I would get away with the notes I have? They're basically just some on characters, a summary and themes. Or should I have some on imagery

Nyctolust

Milkyway7798 wrote: »

For the Irish stories and poems my teacher didn't really give us a lot of notes? I have the gleasnotaí book but I cannot understand the notes as they're not translated. Do you think I would get away with the notes I have? They're basically just some on characters, a summary and themes. Or should I have some on imagery

Definitely learn some things on imagery for your poems. Maybe a couple of lines on poetic technique or language/form too just to be safe.


Lol at the chap bringing Bulmers into every exam, I think a lot of girls in my year were threatening to bring in straight vodka instead of water

Bazinga_N

wanderer100 wrote: »

What poems and proses are you guys studying for Irish. Any predictions??

I'm just gonna leave out the Caca Milis, Oisin, An tEarrach Thiar and Colscaradh. I'll look over them then the night before just in case!

wanderer100

So far I've done Hurlamaboc, Gnathrud & Dis for the Pros and Geibheann, Mo Ghra sa & Spailpin Fanach for filiocht.

Be very cruel for the department to not give us one of those but they've certainly been throwing up surprises this year so might have cram in those last few ones

Liordi

I don't know why but I'm convinced it's going to be Geibheann & Hurlamaboc / Gnathrud. I'll still go over the other ones a small bit though.

Manufan123

What essays are people learning? Also for An Triail what are the chances of a question on Padraig?

Liordi

I've learned 4 essays (mental health, education system, alcohol and drugs, problems of young people) I don't know why but I think something very broad like 'international problems' could come up so I wish I had something to learn on Brexit/Trump/Terrorism/Refugees and combine them all to one essay.

Bazinga_N

Manufan123 wrote: »

What essays are people learning? Also for An Triail what are the chances of a question on Padraig?

I'm mainly focusing on EU, Refugees and the Environment. I'll just glance over other stuff that I could throw into a general essay on problems in Ireland or something! Hopefully I'll be ok!

For an triail I'm guessing it'll either be something about the other characters besides Maire. Probably Padraig, Mailli, or maybe her family. Other than that it could be a Single Mothers question or a question on Irish society in the 60s or maybe a dramatic techniques question. That's everything I'm going to go over anyways!

Mr Rhode Island Red

Thank **** I dropped to OL Irish

wanderer100

Was just wondering something with regards to Irish essays; do examiners mind if you make up facts that aren't true in your essays. Reason being to strengthen your argument on the topic.

carefulnowted

wanderer100 wrote: »

Was just wondering something with regards to Irish essays; do examiners mind if you make up facts that aren't true in your essays. Reason being to strengthen your argument on the topic.

Nah, you'll be fine as long as it sounds reasonable/logical

Skodaa

Mr Rhode Island Red wrote: »

Thank **** I dropped to OL Irish

Never opened a book for Irish because I'm pass, and the tape examiner said I did really well so what do we study for OL irish paper 1??

VG31

wanderer100 wrote: »

Was just wondering something with regards to Irish essays; do examiners mind if you make up facts that aren't true in your essays. Reason being to strengthen your argument on the topic.

It's more about your standard of Irish than the information. Obviously don't write something ludicrous.

X6.430macman

I'm foundation so I honestly don't give a toss

Xgracie

I have EU, homelessness, mental health, terrorism and maybe health system (if I'm arsed looking over it) for Irish but am still very worried hate how u really don't know what they'll ask

Nyctolust

I have homelessness, the EU/Brexit, the future of Irish, and the refugee crisis, but haven't been able to learn any of them yet. I'm getting really antsy because I feel like I should have mental health, sport, the health/education system, or terrorism as well, but we've never covered those topics in class before and I don't have enough time to get any of them written/learned on top of everything else.

hasdanta

I'd say if you learned points about Refugees/Terrorism/Brexit/Mental Health you'll get an essay for one or more of those topics. The environment is a trendy Irish essay topic too and hasn't come up since 2013 I believe so might be worth preparing one of that.

Liordi

If something I don't have learned comes up, I think I'll have a mini panic attack.

VG31

Anyone else pretty much relying on the general essay?

Ponguin

Anyone else from the Gaeltacht in disbelief at the amount of "learning off" essays that goes on in Irish :')

Nyctolust

I don't learn off essays word for word or anything because I'm just ****e at that and it's too much for me, but there's key sentences and vocab I always have to try and learn and recite a million times in my head because my memory is just so bad. Always have wished I was a Gaeilgeoir or something lol

carefulnowted

Yeah, I learn off sentences and then fit them around the title. It'd be such an advantage to be from the Gaeltacht, I'd love that!

randylonghorn

Ponguin wrote: »

Anyone else from the Gaeltacht in disbelief at the amount of "learning off" essays that goes on in Irish :')

Well, given how many people whose first language is English learn off essays for English, it really shouldn't come as a surprise that people learn off essays for Irish, French, etc.

gaaman16

Paper one is tomorrow. struggling a bit with the essay's. Any idea of what essay could appear? Fadhbanna came up last two years and i have a good idea writing them but doubt it will be up this year?

Msrebeckyxo

Just learnt off Díoma thank god I don't have to worry about essay

Nyctolust

My teacher said that something could come up on Todhchaí na Gaeilge or something similar since last year at the time the papers were being written was the 20th anniversary of TG4.
I think something on refugees, the European Union/Brexit, or terrorism could come up as well. Others are mentioning sport and the health/education systems but I've never covered those and won't be learning them.

Bazinga_N

Msrebeckyxo wrote: »

Just learnt off Díoma thank god I don't have to worry about essay

What if Díoma doesn't come up? 😬

Msrebeckyxo

Bazinga_N wrote: »

What if Díoma doesn't come up? 😬

It's a story not an Aiste! You learn it and then you take the word dioma out and put in the other word that comes up! If the story doesn't make sense with the word then it's not end of the world as I think it's 10/20% for the actual story and 80% for my Irish! I've learnt it word perfect so should be okay !

Nyctolust

Msrebeckyxo wrote: »

It's a story not an Aiste! You learn it and then you take the word dioma out and put in the other word that comes up! If the story doesn't make sense with the word then it's not end of the world as I think it's 10/20% for the actual story and 80% for my Irish! I've learnt it word perfect so should be okay !

That percentage may be true, but what my Irish teacher warned our class was that if your story doesn't make sense and they can tell you just learned the essay off and replaced words to try and make it suit the title, they have every right to give you 0 for it... Especially if it's word-perfect and your level of grammar/standard of the language doesn't match whatever you write for P2. I've already heard about people getting 0 for stories and essays now in the last couple of years since 2012 because the examiner could tell they just regurgitated a learned-off story and their standard of Irish was 'too good' compared to what they'd written for answers on P2.

Msrebeckyxo

Nyctolust wrote: »

That percentage may be true, but what my Irish teacher warned our class was that if your story doesn't make sense and they can tell you just learned the essay off and replaced words to try and make it suit the title, they have every right to give you 0 for it... Especially if it's word-perfect and your level of grammar/standard of the language doesn't match whatever you write for P2. I've already heard about people getting 0 for stories and essays now in the last couple of years since 2012 because the examiner could tell they just regurgitated a learned-off story and their standard of Irish was 'too good' compared to what they'd written for answers on P2.

Awh well nothing I can do about it now, My teacher gave this to her class the past 5/6 years and has gotten at least 7 A1s each year so just gotta take a risk.

wanderer100

For HL how much are you guys looking to write for your essays. I wrote 2 pages and a quarter in my mocks and met the words requirement of atleast 500/600 words but my teacher still said it was a bit short.

blueee

For Irish tomorrow, if I learn terrorism, Brexit, sport, poverty/homelessness, the media, the Irish language and the education system would I be safe enough?

Bazinga_N

wanderer100 wrote: »

For HL how much are you guys looking to write for your essays. I wrote 2 pages and a quarter in my mocks and met the words requirement of atleast 500/600 words but my teacher still said it was a bit short.

I always get this as well because my hand writing is tiny! Don't worry about it too much! As long as you're writing 500+ words you're writing enough for them to fairly assess your standard of Irish in the essay!

maude6868

Msrebeckyxo wrote: »

It's a story not an Aiste! You learn it and then you take the word dioma out and put in the other word that comes up! If the story doesn't make sense with the word then it's not end of the world as I think it's 10/20% for the actual story and 80% for my Irish! I've learnt it word perfect so should be okay !

Hope it's not the one about the race horse. That will get you 0 marks

X6.430macman

Destroyed Irish in 65 mins

Jijsaw

^Yeah I was scribing, very easy tape and predictable essays. Lovely start for you all

Pinkycharm

Jijsaw wrote: »

^Yeah I was scribing, very easy tape and predictable essays. Lovely start for you all

What were the essays do you know? Teacher on the edge here!

Jijsaw

Pinkycharm wrote: »

What were the essays do you know? Teacher on the edge here!

Only two my fella looked at were on 'Violence in the World' and a debate on Brexit.

Pinkycharm

Jijsaw wrote: »

Only two my fella looked at were on 'Violence in the World' and a debate on Brexit.

Sound! I was hoping social problems might come up as well!

X6.430macman

Pinkycharm wrote:

What were the essays???

Actually don't know..I didn't look at them

Liordi

Education System and International Political Leaders were there too.

I finished at 2.50, so happy an essay I had learned came up and the tape was very easy!

Jijsaw

There was also one about sport scandals, I just remembered.

Msrebeckyxo

Struggled with the tape! Please tell me I wasn't the only one

wanderer100

One of the easiest Paper 1 exams in a long time. The listening was surprisingly very nice. No over the top dodgy culchie accent or anything

Those essay titles were a blessing!! Very predictable and the range was fantastic. Spent the first 5 minutes deciding which one to pick because I had 3 essays on sport, violence and society learnt off that I could of used today. Went with the society one in the end and nailed down 3 and half pages of pure beauty.

Since that P1 was a walk in the park for many, get ready for a ****storm in Paper 2 tomorrow!!!

Nyctolust

I was amazed by that lovely aural. I could even understand every accent!!

The essay titles were definitely lovely as well, but absolutely none of them were things we had even mentioned yet alone gone over in my class, and I was going to write a Brexit one to learn last week but didn't have time because of personal things, so I'm raging. I did the one about violence and got about 3 pages out of it with some very basic rant about guns/racism in America and violence in the Middle East (so I pulled in a bit of the refugee crisis and even mentioned a bitta sectarian attacks from an An Gnáthrud quote hahaha) but I think I used the same phrases and sentences about 5 times.

Oh well, gotta prepare myself for a potentially very messy P2

Msrebeckyxo

What prose and poetry are you all learning?

jogd1234

Msrebeckyxo wrote: »

What prose and poetry are you all learning?

Way I see it they give you the poems, so I'll just learn about a couple of poets & hope I can wing it when analysing the poems themselves. For prose I'll learn gnathrud & hurlamaboc

blueee

I aim to have a fair idea of all of them, and I'm going to go over An Gnáthrud, Hurlamaboc, Dís, Géibheann, Mo Ghrá-sa and An Spailpín Fánach today.