** LC Irish 2017 - discussion

Nyctolust

Msrebeckyxo wrote: »

It's a story not an Aiste! You learn it and then you take the word dioma out and put in the other word that comes up! If the story doesn't make sense with the word then it's not end of the world as I think it's 10/20% for the actual story and 80% for my Irish! I've learnt it word perfect so should be okay !

That percentage may be true, but what my Irish teacher warned our class was that if your story doesn't make sense and they can tell you just learned the essay off and replaced words to try and make it suit the title, they have every right to give you 0 for it... Especially if it's word-perfect and your level of grammar/standard of the language doesn't match whatever you write for P2. I've already heard about people getting 0 for stories and essays now in the last couple of years since 2012 because the examiner could tell they just regurgitated a learned-off story and their standard of Irish was 'too good' compared to what they'd written for answers on P2.

Msrebeckyxo

Nyctolust wrote: »

That percentage may be true, but what my Irish teacher warned our class was that if your story doesn't make sense and they can tell you just learned the essay off and replaced words to try and make it suit the title, they have every right to give you 0 for it... Especially if it's word-perfect and your level of grammar/standard of the language doesn't match whatever you write for P2. I've already heard about people getting 0 for stories and essays now in the last couple of years since 2012 because the examiner could tell they just regurgitated a learned-off story and their standard of Irish was 'too good' compared to what they'd written for answers on P2.

Awh well nothing I can do about it now, My teacher gave this to her class the past 5/6 years and has gotten at least 7 A1s each year so just gotta take a risk.

wanderer100

For HL how much are you guys looking to write for your essays. I wrote 2 pages and a quarter in my mocks and met the words requirement of atleast 500/600 words but my teacher still said it was a bit short.

blueee

For Irish tomorrow, if I learn terrorism, Brexit, sport, poverty/homelessness, the media, the Irish language and the education system would I be safe enough?

Bazinga_N

wanderer100 wrote: »

For HL how much are you guys looking to write for your essays. I wrote 2 pages and a quarter in my mocks and met the words requirement of atleast 500/600 words but my teacher still said it was a bit short.

I always get this as well because my hand writing is tiny! Don't worry about it too much! As long as you're writing 500+ words you're writing enough for them to fairly assess your standard of Irish in the essay!

maude6868

Msrebeckyxo wrote: »

It's a story not an Aiste! You learn it and then you take the word dioma out and put in the other word that comes up! If the story doesn't make sense with the word then it's not end of the world as I think it's 10/20% for the actual story and 80% for my Irish! I've learnt it word perfect so should be okay !

Hope it's not the one about the race horse. That will get you 0 marks

X6.430macman

Destroyed Irish in 65 mins

Jijsaw

^Yeah I was scribing, very easy tape and predictable essays. Lovely start for you all

Pinkycharm

Jijsaw wrote: »

^Yeah I was scribing, very easy tape and predictable essays. Lovely start for you all

What were the essays do you know? Teacher on the edge here!

Jijsaw

Pinkycharm wrote: »

What were the essays do you know? Teacher on the edge here!

Only two my fella looked at were on 'Violence in the World' and a debate on Brexit.

Pinkycharm

Jijsaw wrote: »

Only two my fella looked at were on 'Violence in the World' and a debate on Brexit.

Sound! I was hoping social problems might come up as well!

X6.430macman

Pinkycharm wrote:

What were the essays???

Actually don't know..I didn't look at them

Liordi

Education System and International Political Leaders were there too.

I finished at 2.50, so happy an essay I had learned came up and the tape was very easy!

Jijsaw

There was also one about sport scandals, I just remembered.

Msrebeckyxo

Struggled with the tape! Please tell me I wasn't the only one

wanderer100

One of the easiest Paper 1 exams in a long time. The listening was surprisingly very nice. No over the top dodgy culchie accent or anything

Those essay titles were a blessing!! Very predictable and the range was fantastic. Spent the first 5 minutes deciding which one to pick because I had 3 essays on sport, violence and society learnt off that I could of used today. Went with the society one in the end and nailed down 3 and half pages of pure beauty.

Since that P1 was a walk in the park for many, get ready for a ****storm in Paper 2 tomorrow!!!

Nyctolust

I was amazed by that lovely aural. I could even understand every accent!!

The essay titles were definitely lovely as well, but absolutely none of them were things we had even mentioned yet alone gone over in my class, and I was going to write a Brexit one to learn last week but didn't have time because of personal things, so I'm raging. I did the one about violence and got about 3 pages out of it with some very basic rant about guns/racism in America and violence in the Middle East (so I pulled in a bit of the refugee crisis and even mentioned a bitta sectarian attacks from an An Gnáthrud quote hahaha) but I think I used the same phrases and sentences about 5 times.

Oh well, gotta prepare myself for a potentially very messy P2

Msrebeckyxo

What prose and poetry are you all learning?

jogd1234

Msrebeckyxo wrote: »

What prose and poetry are you all learning?

Way I see it they give you the poems, so I'll just learn about a couple of poets & hope I can wing it when analysing the poems themselves. For prose I'll learn gnathrud & hurlamaboc

blueee

I aim to have a fair idea of all of them, and I'm going to go over An Gnáthrud, Hurlamaboc, Dís, Géibheann, Mo Ghrá-sa and An Spailpín Fánach today.

Nyctolust

All I've decided on so far is that I probably won't do Oisín since it's been up twice in the last four years. Which is a shame because that one's my favourite.

wanderer100

Just want to double check something. For the third essay title on today's paper, it was 'Ireland being a fair society,' I disagreed with the statement and went on to discuss all the problems we have in our society (fadhbanna soisialta). I heard it's ok to disagree with the statements but I'm now hearing from a couple of people that you can't do that?? Where do u stand on this. Am I in trouble or?

thetalker

Fairly easy ol exam, shame I've learnt nothing in class since 3rd year :P

katekitty88

wanderer100 wrote: »

Just want to double check something. For the third essay title on today's paper, it was 'Ireland being a fair society,' I disagreed with the statement and went on to discuss all the problems we have in our society (fadhbanna soisialta). I heard it's ok to disagree with the statements but I'm now hearing from a couple of people that you can't do that?? Where do u stand on this. Am I in trouble or?

I did the same, I am almost definite you're allowed to do so, I can't see why not. I constantly reiterated that it was an unfair society, rather than fair. I'd say we're both fine!

I hope so at least, that was the best essay I've written to be honest!

VG31

wanderer100 wrote: »

Just want to double check something. For the third essay title on today's paper, it was 'Ireland being a fair society,' I disagreed with the statement and went on to discuss all the problems we have in our society (fadhbanna soisialta). I heard it's ok to disagree with the statements but I'm now hearing from a couple of people that you can't do that?? Where do u stand on this. Am I in trouble or?

Of course you don't have to agree. I imagine that they expected more people to disagree than agree (not that there's anything wrong with agreeing either).

wanderer100

katekitty88 wrote: »

I did the same, I am almost definite you're allowed to do so, I can't see why not. I constantly reiterated that it was an unfair society, rather than fair. I'd say we're both fine!

I hope so at least, that was the best essay I've written to be honest!

Yeah I was like 90% positive it's allowed but just wanted some clarity. Nice to see someone else did the same now. I wrote the best Irish essay of my life. Would be devastated if I don't get atleast a H2 in it

randylonghorn

You most certainly can take the opposing side / disagree.

I suspect what you're picking up on is people who were unsure of the exact meaning of the title, and lobbed a learned-off essay at it like a snowball in the hope that it might hit the target, and are getting nervous now.

In fact, many essays which people prepare like "social problems" and "homelessness" could easily adapt to oppose this title with just a few tweaks here and there; the issue might be whether people tweaked them enough to show they knew what they were doing, rather than just lobbing a snowball blindly into the dark!

auorablaze

I did this in my pre exam however and I got penalized really heavily - the title was 'siochain sa domhan' and I went on to say about the 'easpa siochana' without any reference to good peace at all. I got 58/100, which I considered to be quite a low mark? I feel like our corrector however was extremely fussy. In the actual irish exam I'm sure the correctors will be looking to throw you marks wherever they can!! I'm sure it's like english where it's objective, once you stay within the theme you aren't doing anything wrong.

Anyway, I also thought that aural was heavenly. hot damn.
Gonna be worried for paper 2 though, all the paper 2s have been shocking so far. English 2, maths 2, bleeeh. I'll learn my poetry and stories tomorrow morning. lol

Nyctolust

I'm trying not to stress myself out too much for P2 since the poetry and prose together are only 10% and I feel like even winging it I'm capable of getting more than half of that, but I haven't even been able to start looking at notes for anything yet (not even the dreaded An Triail) since Biology has consumed my evening (and I'm still only halfway done)... Starting to freak me out.

Are you guys bothering to learn Oisín or An tEarrach Thiar since they came up last year? I'm so paranoid.

Xgracie

Nyctolust wrote: »

I'm trying not to stress myself out too much for P2 since the poetry and prose together are only 10% and I feel like even winging it I'm capable of getting more than half of that, but I haven't even been able to start looking at notes for anything yet (not even the dreaded An Triail) since Biology has consumed my evening (and I'm still only halfway done)... Starting to freak me out.

Are you guys bothering to learn Oisín or An tEarrach Thiar since they came up last year? I'm so paranoid.

Nah not bothering with colscaradh or caca milis either, honestly they're so easy wing just be like oh powerful metaphors, images etc and for the story you're basically recounting the story with a few extra sentences! Just know the plots and you're flying it's not worth stressing over