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BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    All it takes is one badly parked vehicle to render the whole bus lane useless, as buses have no choice but to try to move into the traffic lane, which may not be moving anyway! Add to that zero enforcement and it quickly descends into a glorified car park.

    Today may be an exception given political movements afoot at Leinster House, but that only goes to show the nonsense of how the city centre can be brought to a near standstill to accommodate a meeting of politicians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Bus Gates on the quays and at Pearse St are being introduced in August according to the IT. Should help reduce the amount of private cars in the CC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    Hopefully this will be resolved favourably for the citizens of Dublin and not just for a solitary NIMBY!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,041 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    If we can get the new quays bus gates actually enforced I think that'll be a serious game changer. Also need to get the parking removed from the quays, drivers simply cannot parallel park.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,141 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    I wonder is Ms Kelly paying for this case herself or who is paying for it?
    It mustn’t be cheap?



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    She's representing herself, so she's not paying for a solicitor anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 pk1991




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,141 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    but it must cost something to bring this to court and be heard in front of a judge?



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    A few hundred to launch it, at most. Probably a few hundred more going through filing stuff. If you're able to do it yourself, the law can be quite cheap, but you run the risk of launching something that has no legal merit, like this case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭BusGuy


    ''EW7 currently off service after an accident''

    This is what happens if you rush to get more drivers for some stupid BusConnects plan. No (professional) training. GT100 just recently came back, so I suppose if more bus drivers think speeding down Dundrum Rd at 75 km/h at 2AM, is a good idea… I mean I saw an advert on the S4 on an Open Day saying more routes are coming so could this mean Phase 6 is coming sooner than later…?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭BusGuy


    Just a side note, I'm planning to take by brother to TRA 2024, but he's only 13. Is he allowed to go? I can't find anything on Google.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I think Phase 6 is for the O route with Dublin Bus.

    I would assume that route is meant go out before the E-Spine which is Phase 7.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭AX636


    Just so u know it wasn't a bus driver that crashed EW7 so get your facts right before you post anything 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    So your assuming that the bus driver was at fault for the accident. Most of the bus accidents that happen the bus driver is not even at fault for. Also DB buses are limited to 65km/hr so I don't know what bus is going down the Dundrum Road at 75km/h.



  • Administrators Posts: 447 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭System


    This discussion was created from comments split from: BusConnects Dublin - Likely phasing of new routes.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    MOD: Moved comments from the phasing thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,714 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    I've been told that planning hasn't been granted yet for the Bus Connects route along the N11 (E Spline)… It would appear that there’s allot of junctions need changing and a big change to the cycle paths required… What are the chances of it actually happening this year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,802 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    The network changes are happening independently of the Core Bus Corridor infrastructure works.

    The E Spine is currently scheduled to be introduced in Q3.

    The infrastructure works will start to happen across the city from 2025.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    It's becoming impossible to get to Celbridge from Liffey Valley or Lucan on weekdays 3-6pm. Lots of people left behind by C4 at LV stop - this despite buses being overloaded with people standing in the front door area.

    Meanwhile the outbound C3 is only half to two-thirds full departing LV at the same time, which shows the demand is for Celbridge - not Lucan or Leixlip or Maynooth (unsurprising given Leixlip/Maynooth's superior train service). It also doesn't help that the C3 arrives to Leixlip just minutes after the L59 to Celbridge departs, so that alternative option involves a 25 minute wait.

    At the moment it is a case of having to go to Maynooth to come back to Celbridge. It's a joke, and with Celbridge growing so rapidly (and having a bigger population than either Leixlip or Maynooth) this is totally unacceptable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I'd hate to have to rely on a bus to Celbridge from LV anyway. I know a few people who live there and they take the 120 from town or Heuston instead of the C4. I think it stops at LV aswell but is often jammers by that stage, and I'm also not sure that it takes Leap Cards, maybe it does, but I doubt it's included in the 90 minute journey thing as it goes to Edenderry I believe.

    And on a moany note - that bus stop outbound at LV is an absolute disgrace. There isn't enough room so the pavement is jammed. All buses stop there, the Cs, the Bus Eireann, and some others including the Galway service. It is not safe, and then you have all the shoppers plus the students from Kings Hospital all around the busy times. It's a nightmare. I could go on. I don't use it regularly at all, so maybe I am just a moaner, but on the couple of occasions that I did, I was waiting so long to get the C4 that I trudged back to the hub and got the L ? something to Adamstown to connect with the train to Hazelhatch. Except that bus does not connect with the train times….. I kid you not!

    I find it hard to understand why Celbridge has such a dire bus service. I know there's a train station in Hazelhatch, which involves another change onto a bus to get you around the town perimeter. I used the train to visit friends recently which is how I know this. Anyway, Leixlip has two train stations and Maynooth has one so they are already well served. I wonder will there be a connection to Adamstown on the new road off the Celbridge Road. Seems like a no brainer.

    I still think the BusConnects project is a step in the right direction. It is a bit messy at the moment but hopefully in time it will reap rewards for commuters.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,041 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    The scary part is that the lucan road cbc project isn't projected to improve journey times and capacity by any great margin when it's opened some time before 2030 and currently the service is unusable at leak times on a wet day. You're lucky with the C routes, the Blanch corridor buses operate with gaps of 30 minutes at evening peak and all are full after the first 2 or 3 stops in the south city centre on a dry day. Completely useless and no plan to actually do anything about it within our working life time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭jd


    E (July?) will be before the O (September or so?). There will be rerouting of the 11 to cover North Circular Road between the E and O launches! Not sure where I got that.

    Post edited by jd on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭ITV2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭jd


    July is Q3, I'm an optimist :). Site clearance has started for 2 new developments close to the new E1 terminus in Northwood. Hopefully it won't delay Northwood Management/Cosgraves/Woodford from facilitating some road realignment etc for the terminus..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    Couldn't they just continue to use IKEA as the terminus until Northwood is ready like how the H1 is still not going to Clongriffin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,780 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    IKEA don't want the busses using either the inside or outside terminus, having driven the 140 for a while it's not really understandable why but most staff members weren't really happy to see a driver using facilities



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    That's ridiculous do they not want their staff or customers using the bus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    There will be a route diversion in place for the 60 later this month.

    It will in place for a few hours from late Friday night until Saturday morning in the last weekend of April.

    https://www.dublinbus.ie/news/diversion-on-route-60

    Does anyone know why this diversion is needed for the route?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭p_haugh




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    KIN must have been renewed for another season!😆



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