How would you react if you accidentally found illegal porn on a friends computer?

jeanjolie

Asked women and they said they would report it immediately and stop being friends with the guy/girl and even disown a family member.

Would this be the same for you? Would you react in a more aggressive manner?

Just to note, illegal in terms of what's considered highly immoral in society; animal, actual rape, child porn etc.

Wibbs

Illegal, like stuff involving children? Ring up the local Garda station and report them. Disowning them would go without saying for me.

biko

I'd probably go "WTF is this **** on your computer?!" and see if they could explain themselves.

ElKavo

Shallow Grave.

People who consume the images of child abuse are no less guilty of the crime in my eyes. Abuse destroys people (some people). I have a friend who has never recovered from abuse he suffered as a child, he still cant sleep at night without medication, has had several substance abuse problems throughout his life and has never had a real relationship.

GarIT

Depends on what illegal means, anything involving kids or animals, I'd say nothing to the friend and quietly inform the Gardaí.

In the UK lately, all sorts of porn has been made illegal and there's no way I'd report any of that.

eviltwin

I presume you mean child abuse images? I'd report them to the gardai, wouldn't think twice about it. What else could you do? If you do nothing you are just as bad imo.

Duvetdays

Child porn I wouldn't say anything to friend in case they get rid of computer. I'd quietly go to guards and make a statement.

I honestly don't know how anybody who seen this wouldn't report it. I'd be disgusted if I found out somebody I knew found this on someone's computer and turned a blind eye.

GLaDOS

If it involves children it's hard to justify anything other than immediately informing the gardaí.

ANXIOUS

biko wrote: »

I'd probably go "WTF is this **** on your computer?!" and see if they could explain themselves.

I wouldn't give them a chance to try cover their tracks. If they have a plausible explanation then give it to the authorities and I'll apologize.

PucaMama

GarIT wrote: »

Depends on what illegal means, anything involving kids or animals, I'd say nothing to the friend and quietly inform the Gardaí.

In the UK lately, all sorts of porn has been made illegal and there's no way I'd report any of that.

What have they banned in the uk

vandriver

Can you equate bestality with filmed child abuse?

GarIT

PucaMama wrote: »

What have they banned in the uk

Spanking, whipping, name calling, physical restraint, pee, oral where the person receiving oral is on top, female ejaculation, choking and fisting.

It is a crime to be in possession of porn with any of that in it in the UK, but if I caught someone with anything like that I'd say nothing unless it involved rape/was not consensual.

PucaMama

GarIT wrote: »

Spanking, whipping, name calling, physical restraint, pee, oral where the person receiving oral is on top, female ejaculation, choking and fisting.

So generally things that are none of anyone's business if people take part in them cus there not harmful to others? Not my kinda thing really but I think this is invasion of people's privacy and taking away their free will. Are we taking on the same laws?

Edit: WHY is female ejaculation included? Bizarre.

GarIT

vandriver wrote: »

Can you equate bestality with filmed child abuse?

Animals can't consent. Yes.

GarIT

PucaMama wrote: »

So generally things that are none of anyone's business if people take part in them cus there not harmful to others? Not my kinda thing really but I think this is invasion of people's privacy and taking away their free will. Are we taking on the same laws?

The apparent reasoning is those acts "can be abusive" if consent isn't given, so they should be banned even with consent.

The other reason is that "porn gives children a warped view of sex". Which I completely disagree with.

GarIT

PucaMama wrote: »

WHY is female ejaculation included? Bizarre.

There were a couple of arguments made including, it's pee, it's not real, it confuses children and young adults because it doesn't happen in real life. I don't know enough about female ejaculation to comment on if it is real or not but either way, I don't think it should be banned.

jobbridge4life

GarIT wrote: »

Animals can't consent. Yes.

If kill your dog will you be just as up set as if I kill your child?

PucaMama

GarIT wrote: »

The apparent reasoning is those acts "can be abusive" if consent isn't given, so they should be banned even with consent.

The other reason is that "porn gives children a warped view of sex". Which I completely disagree with.

While porn MAY give a false impression of sex, if parents (and schools?) are open and honest in sex education this shouldn't be a problem.

Also, any sex act is abusive without consent. These laws sound like someone on a bit of a power trip wants to control everyone's sex life. This gives me a headache.

jobbridge4life

If I discovered child abuse imagery I would immediately inform the Gardai. I actually think we are legally obliged to given the child protection legislation that was brought in a few years ago. I'd do it regardless though.

PucaMama

jobbridge4life wrote: »

If kill your dog will you be just as up set as if I kill your child?

Are you about to try justifying illegal animal porn

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

GarIT wrote: »

Animals can't consent. Yes.

ridicilous. how can you equate animal abuse with human abuse of a child?
so a video of a guy fúcking a pig is the same as a guy with a child because neither can consent. but if you had bacon this morning, did the pig consent to be killed to be eaten?!

GarIT

jobbridge4life wrote: »

If kill your dog will you be just as up set as if I kill your child?

No. I still think that child sexual abuse and animal sexual abuse are similar crimes, child abuse is worse, but they should carry similar sentences.

PucaMama wrote: »

While porn MAY give a false impression of sex, if parents (and schools?) are open and honest in sex education this shouldn't be a problem.

Also, any sex act is abusive without consent. These laws sound like someone on a bit of a power trip wants to control everyone's sex life. This gives me a headache.

I and everyone I have heard speak on this topic agree.

jobbridge4life

PucaMama wrote: »

Are you about to try justifying illegal animal porn

Of course not. I am trying to make the point that to equate the sexual abuse of an animal to that of a child is grossly inappropriate.

I'm honestly dumbfounded that anyone would try and do so.

PucaMama

georgiecasey wrote: »

ridicilous. how can you equate animal abuse with human abuse of a child?
so a video of a guy fúcking a pig is the same as a guy with a child because neither can consent. but if you had bacon this morning, did the pig consent to be killed to be eaten?!

That bacon was bred to be eaten. Not had sex with. Don't even TRY to compare eating meat to sexually abusing an animal. Animals can feel fear and pain too.

GarIT

georgiecasey wrote: »

ridicilous. how can you equate animal abuse with human abuse of a child?
so a video of a guy fúcking a pig is the same as a guy with a child because neither can consent. but if you had bacon this morning, did the pig consent to be killed to be eaten?!

I eat meat, I think it is natural. If you told me you tortured the animal for fun before killing it I would be disgusted. Killing animals for food is natural and many would argue necessary, raping an animal is not natural or necessary.

PucaMama

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Of course not. I am trying to make the point that to equate the sexual abuse of an animal to that of a child is grossly inappropriate.

I'm honestly dumbfounded that anyone would try and do so.

I disagree, sexual abuse of children and sexual abuse of animals are what is grossly inappropriate.

jobbridge4life

PucaMama wrote: »

I disagree, sexual abuse of children and sexual abuse of animals are what is grossly inappropriate.

I'm sorry but I find that comment truly appalling.

Both are obviously wrong, but if you can't acknowledge that to sexually abuse a child is a crime of much more gravity then I just don't know what to say...

mordeith

PucaMama wrote: »

That bacon was bred to be eaten. Not had sex with. Don't even TRY to compare eating meat to sexually abusing an animal. Animals can feel fear and pain too.

I reckon the pig would take the shag over a slit throat any day

helimachoptor

per most of the suggestions above,

Beat the **** out of him, then call the cops and say i found him that way with the laptop open with bad stuff on it and now im doing my citizenly duty to report him.

Permabear

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GarIT

mordeith wrote: »

I reckon the pig would take the shag over a slit throat any day

Many studies have shown the majority of people would rather be murdered than raped, especially females.

jobbridge4life

GarIT wrote: »

Many studies have shown the majority of people would rather be murdered than raped, especially females.

Oh for the love of christ...

PucaMama

jobbridge4life wrote: »

I'm sorry but I find that comment truly appalling.

Both are obviously wrong, but if you can't acknowledge that to sexually abuse a child is a crime of much more gravity then I just don't know what to say...

I don't understand how you can say one rape is worse than another. Ffs. Can you not treat two different crimes with the same severity.

PucaMama

mordeith wrote: »

I reckon the pig would take the shag over a slit throat any day

WE don't slaughter animals with just a slit throat.

GarIT

helimachoptor wrote: »

per most of the suggestions above,

Beat the **** out of him, then call the cops and say i found him that way with the laptop open with bad stuff on it and now im doing my citizenly duty to report him.

There is plenty of evidence to show that the Gardaí will kick the $h!te out of anyone they arrest caught with child porn. Harm a woman and you will leave the station heavily bruised, harm a child and you will probably have something broken.

PucaMama

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Oh for the love of christ...

He has a good point. Rape isn't something that you get over easily if ever.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

helimachoptor

GarIT wrote: »

There is plenty of evidence to show that the Garda? will kick the $h!te out of anyone they arrest caught with child porn. Harm a woman and you will leave the station heavily bruised, harm a child and you will probably have something broken.

They can finish him off if thats the case

jobbridge4life

PucaMama wrote: »

I don't understand how you can say one rape is worse than another. Ffs. Can you not treat two different crimes with the same severity.

I literally can't believe that someone is trying to say that raping a child is not worse than raping a animal.

I'd be ashamed to say such a thing.

PucaMama

jobbridge4life wrote: »

I literally can't believe that someone is trying to say that raping a child is not worse than raping a animal.

I'd be ashamed to say such a thing.

What you are essentially getting at is, you would report the child porn immediately but give someone a chance to explain away animal porn?

Edit: it is unnerving to hear someone wouldn't want any sexual crime punished as severely as possible.

BoatMad

GarIT wrote: »

Many studies have shown the majority of people would rather be murdered than raped, especially females.

what. links to appropriate scientific studies please

humans survival instincts would suggest quite the opposite

BoatMad

jobbridge4life wrote: »

I literally can't believe that someone is trying to say that raping a child is not worse than raping a animal.

I'd be ashamed to say such a thing.

actions against animals do not carry the same sanctions as against children, Thats a fact of life . Morally the arguments are all over the place as it depends on where you place animals in the scale of things

equating the two is not correct either.

Phoebas

PucaMama wrote: »

That bacon was bred to be eaten. Not had sex with. Don't even TRY to compare eating meat to sexually abusing an animal. Animals can feel fear and pain too.

(I can hardly believe I'm asking this, but) how about animal porn containing consensual sex?

Is that abuse?

PucaMama

Phoebas wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

That bacon was bred to be eaten. Not had sex with. Don't even TRY to compare eating meat to sexually abusing an animal. Animals can feel fear and pain too.

(I can hardly believe I'm asking this, but) how about animal porn containing consensual sex?

Is that abuse?

A human can not have consensual sex with an animal

jeanjolie

helimachoptor wrote: »

per most of the suggestions above,

Beat the **** out of him, then call the cops and say i found him that way with the laptop open with bad stuff on it and now im doing my citizenly duty to report him.

Are you serious?

drunkmonkey

Phoebas wrote: »

(I can hardly believe I'm asking this, but) how about animal porn containing consensual sex?

Is that abuse?

I didn't see the eels complaining in animal farm. You could even say they were mad for it.

jeanjolie

GarIT wrote: »

There is plenty of evidence to show that the Gardaí will kick the $h!te out of anyone they arrest caught with child porn. Harm a woman and you will leave the station heavily bruised, harm a child and you will probably have something broken.

Just wondering if you guys are joking or does this actually happen..Not up to date with sex crime stories in the country so....

I do remember prisoners once threw boiling water on a guy who killed a girl.

allthedoyles

You make statement you end up in court with your friend . Maybe someone else accessed his computer.
Report him and you are been judge and jury right now.

TheIrishGrover

Hand back the laptop and report them. I really REALLY cannot stand cruelty to children and animals. It fills me with rage. If they are not responsible let them prove it to the cops. If they are not responsible they are at least aware and haven't said anything and that is just as bad IMHO.

myshirt

A bit of lead behind the ear.

jeanjolie

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Hand back the laptop and report them. I really REALLY cannot stand cruelty to children and animals. It fills me with rage. If they are not responsible let them prove it to the cops. If they are not responsible they are at least aware and haven't said anything and that is just as bad IMHO.

Just curious, what is your age?