Healthy Bread?

snowflame

I'm so confused. Is there such thing as healthy bread/wraps/rolls/buns? Does it have to be gluten free? Does anyone know what the healthiest options and brands are? Thanks

Alf Veedersane

Bread isn't unhealthy.

Too much bread isn't advisable though.

livedadream

snowflame wrote: »

I'm so confused. Is there such thing as healthy bread/wraps/rolls/buns? Does it have to be gluten free? Does anyone know what the healthiest options and brands are? Thanks

only unhealthy bread is the processed white gloop you get, buy fresh from a bakery or make your own or get normal loafs and your good to go.
if its part of a balanced diet your good.

B-D-P--

Believe it or not,
Oats and yogurt baked make unbelievable tasty bread and you know what your eating, very healthy and satisfying.

Cant recommend enough.

tiredblondie

B-D-P-- wrote: »

Believe it or not,
Oats and yogurt baked make unbelievable tasty bread and you know what your eating, very healthy and satisfying.

Cant recommend enough.

Have you got a recipe for that? (if it's not too much hassle obviously!)

Todd Gack

snowflame wrote: »

Does it have to be gluten free?

No, not unless you're a coeliac/gluten sensitive.

If it's specifically lower calorie bread you're looking for then most brands e.g. Hovis, Johnson, Mooney & O'Brien, Pat the Baker have brown that's 50-60 calories a slice (due to the slices being smaller and thinner than standard, the calories per 100g is the about the same)

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Personally I stay away from white bread, even bakers white bread, I find it to be very empty.

A good sourdough, cake of brown bread or a nice multi-seed always goes down a treat. I find brown bread is really good, full of fiber (not that sliced pan crap). Just don't overdo it

goat2

love the multispeed sourdough bread, cannot eat the white bread, no taste from that

Dixie Chick

tiredblondie wrote: »

Have you got a recipe for that? (if it's not too much hassle obviously!)

360g porridge
500g plain natural yogurt
1 tsp of baking soda
1 egg

Mix all these and either make a loaf or mini scones and they take about 20-30 mins in oven on about gas 5 but check them after the 20 mins as you want them to be a tiny bit moist on the inside as they can harden once cooled otherwise

tiredblondie

Dixie Chick wrote: »

360g porridge
500g plain natural yogurt
1 tsp of baking soda
1 egg

Mix all these and either make a loaf or mini scones and they take about 20-30 mins in oven on about gas 5 but check them after the 20 mins as you want them to be a tiny bit moist on the inside as they can harden once cooled otherwise

Thanks for that - will give it try

Zillah

I adore fresh white bread. I cut off two inch super slices and smother them in butter. It's amazing and I'll kill the fool who tries to stop me.

It's just starch. As long as you balance the rest of your food intake there is nothing wrong with bread.

soporific

The U.S. FDA publish guidelines on how much mouse droppings, mold, and rat hairs are permissible and "Safe" within bread products. It all depends on what you regard as safe. You may not see mouse droppings or mold in a tasty slice of fresh bread, but your immune system may still react in a host of non-coeliac ways. Enjoy your sandwich!!

AllForIt

snowflame wrote: »

I'm so confused. Is there such thing as healthy bread/wraps/rolls/buns? Does it have to be gluten free? Does anyone know what the healthiest options and brands are? Thanks

It's understandable your confused. Bread is nowhere near as healthy as it used to be. The ingredients in modern day bread have been processed to death such that the nutritional value of bread is so low that it is hardly worth consuming.

The biggest trick the bread manufactures have done in recent years is to put seeds on the crust. This is just a trick to make ppl believe it is healthy. Brown sliced bread with seeds on top isn't a jot more healthy than white sliced bread, because they are all equally devoid of nutritional value.

Gluten free bread is indeed gluten free, but the underlying bread is still as nutritionally void as your typical white and brown breads. So the fact is gluten free doesn't make it healthy in itself. There is no value in eating gluten free bread unless you have intolerance to gluten.

Alf Veedersane

AllForIt wrote: »

It's understandable your confused. Bread is nowhere near as healthy as it used to be. The ingredients in modern day bread have been processed to death such that the nutritional value of bread is so low that it is hardly worth consuming.

The biggest trick the bread manufactures have done in recent years is to put seeds on the crust. This is just a trick to make ppl believe it is healthy. Brown sliced bread with seeds on top isn't a jot more healthy than white sliced bread, because they are all equally devoid of nutritional value.

Gluten free bread is indeed gluten free, but the underlying bread is still as nutritionally void as your typical white and brown breads. So the fact is gluten free doesn't make it healthy in itself. There is no value in eating gluten free bread unless you have intolerance to gluten.

That doesn't mean it shouldn't be eaten. Just that it shouldn't be a big part of your diet.

goat2

AllForIt wrote: »

It's understandable your confused. Bread is nowhere near as healthy as it used to be. The ingredients in modern day bread have been processed to death such that the nutritional value of bread is so low that it is hardly worth consuming.

The biggest trick the bread manufactures have done in recent years is to put seeds on the crust. This is just a trick to make ppl believe it is healthy. Brown sliced bread with seeds on top isn't a jot more healthy than white sliced bread, because they are all equally devoid of nutritional value.

Gluten free bread is indeed gluten free, but the underlying bread is still as nutritionally void as your typical white and brown breads. So the fact is gluten free doesn't make it healthy in itself. There is no value in eating gluten free bread unless you have intolerance to gluten.

I SUFFER HIGH CHOLESTOROL, AND YES GLUTEN IS A PROBLEM FOR ME, EVEN THOUGH I DO NOT HAVE AN INTOLERENCE TO IT, IT IS ADVISED THAT I LOWER GLUTEN INTAKE

goat2

Dixie Chick wrote: »

360g porridge
500g plain natural yogurt
1 tsp of baking soda
1 egg

Mix all these and either make a loaf or mini scones and they take about 20-30 mins in oven on about gas 5 but check them after the 20 mins as you want them to be a tiny bit moist on the inside as they can harden once cooled otherwise

will try it

2forjoy

I eat brown breads bought locally . Most of them are baked locally but still mass produced sh***e

Macy0161

Dixie Chick wrote: »

360g porridge
500g plain natural yogurt
1 tsp of baking soda
1 egg

It's nice, but be aware it's more calorie dense than bread. Not necessarily a bad thing, but just be aware depending on your goals.

Personally, I think portion control is the biggest issue with bread in general, rather than nutrional content, type etc. And misconsceptions that some breads (especially wraps) are less calorific than a couple of slices of a pan.

soporific wrote:

The U.S. FDA publish guidelines on how much mouse droppings, mold, and rat hairs are permissible and "Safe" within bread products. It all depends on what you regard as safe. You may not see mouse droppings or mold in a tasty slice of fresh bread, but your immune system may still react in a host of non-coeliac ways. Enjoy your sandwich!!

For those boards.ie users eating in the US...

soporific

Macy0161 wrote: »

It's nice, but be aware it's more calorie dense than bread. Not necessarily a bad thing, but just be aware depending on your goals.

Personally, I think portion control is the biggest issue with bread in general, rather than nutrional content, type etc. And misconsceptions that some breads (especially wraps) are less calorific than a couple of slices of a pan.


For those boards.ie users eating in the US...

I'm afraid that mice and rats enjoy wheat in Ireland just as much as their cousins in the U.S. Talk to anyone in the business and they will tell you how impossible it is to keep rodents out of wheat storage. Rodents have spread everywhere along with wheat since the agricultural revolution. It's worth remembering that gluten intolderance is only one of many probelms with wheat, and the very fact that wheat consumption has opioid effects has lead many to consider it akin to a drug.

Macy0161

soporific wrote: »

I'm afraid that mice and rats enjoy wheat in Ireland just as much as their cousins in the U.S. Talk to anyone in the business and they will tell you how impossible it is to keep rodents out of wheat storage. Rodents have spread everywhere along with wheat since the agricultural revolution. It's worth remembering that gluten intolderance is only one of many probelms with wheat, and the very fact that wheat consumption has opioid effects has lead many to consider it akin to a drug.

If you can't keep them out of wheat, presumably you can't keep them out any grains, or rice or any bulk storage. So what are my rodent poo free options?

goat2

Macy0161 wrote: »

It's nice, but be aware it's more calorie dense than bread. Not necessarily a bad thing, but just be aware depending on your goals.

Personally, I think portion control is the biggest issue with bread in general, rather than nutrional content, type etc. And misconsceptions that some breads (especially wraps) are less calorific than a couple of slices of a pan.


For those boards.ie users eating in the US...

is there a healthy option for wraps

Alf Veedersane

goat2 wrote: »

is there a healthy option for wraps

Wraps aren't unhealthy.

Unless you meant an alternative to 'normal' wraps, e.g. gluten-free etc.

Macy0161

goat2 wrote: »

is there a healthy option for wraps

They're not unhealthy, but you can get wholegrain options.

My point was really some people swap over to them for their sambo thinking they're the solution to losing weight when a white wrap is pretty much the same calories as two slices of a sliced pan. But probably with more fillings in a wrap, which is more likely to be an issue if there is an issue with their sandwich in the first place.

beans

Baking bread for the family is probably the one change I've made to my routine over the past years that I value over all others.

Relatively healthy, low-sugar, low-salt loaves are really easy to produce.

Macy0161

beans wrote: »

Baking bread for the family is probably the one change I've made to my routine over the past years that I value over all others.

Relatively healthy, low-sugar, low-salt loaves are really easy to produce.

In theory, I think this would be great. In reality, portion control would go out the window in our house with freshly baked bread!

beans

Fresh white bread-rolls are just as addictive as cocaine.

soporific

Don't forget that any wheat-based bread , gluten-free or not, home-made or not, is more insulinogenic than sugar. Bread should be enjoyed for what it is: a treat. Consume it like chocolate or alcohol. It is not a health food nor a receptable of essential nutrients. If bread was just another safe food option like eggs or bananas, then people would not feel compulsed to eat it every day and pretend that it was part of a healthy diet.

wonski

Putting eggs and bananas in the same sentence about healthy food is debatable.

Definitely dark bread is better than plain white if you have to.

jim o doom

According to Jason Fung (author obesity code), the only relatively healthy bread is wholemeal stoneground bread.

Anything made from mechanically produced flour is bad, as the very finely ground particles are very quickly absorbed by the body and cause a siginficant insulin response as a result.

I've mostly cut bread out of my diet recently and it is showing in weightloss terms.

I still have the above type of bread sometimes, and I also sometimes have very unhealthy corn or what taco bread, because I love tacos.

You could still eat regular "unhealthy" bread, but just don't do it all the time, like save it for the weekend or whatever.

jim o doom

soporific wrote: »

insulinogenic

That may be my new favourite word.

tamara25

I’m thinking also of cutting out bread. I would have 2 slices everyday for lunch. I always have spelt bread as the ordinary wheat bread doesn’t agree with me.

iguana

I find a lot of breads (and pastas) these days just don't agree with me and mess up my digestive system. I like bread an would very happily eat it in moderation but days of discomfort just aren't worth it. I don't think I have a gluten intolerance as I can eat good wholemeal soda bread with no issues, so it's just something else in the bread that makes me feel bad. I do make oat/yoghurt bread/cakes a lot and eat them for breakfast. I'm a breakfast person and would happily eat nearly half my day's calories first thing in the morning, and it's usually something with egg and/or yoghurt and oats with lots of fruit and maybe nuts (and coffee). So the oat/yoghurt base for baking works well for me. Especially as I'm happiest when my breakfast is pre-prepared and I just have to serve it up in the morning.

I'm going to start experimenting with sourdough as I used to make an eggy-breadpuddingy type cake for breakfast a lot and I miss it.

Worztron

Sourdough

wakka12

wonski wrote: »

Putting eggs and bananas in the same sentence about healthy food is debatable.

Definitely dark bread is better than plain white if you have to.

What is wrong with eggs?

Researchers studied nearly half a million Chinese adults over nine years and found up to one egg per day led to a lower risk of heart disease and stroke. Experts have pointed out, however, that participants in that study were not eating a Western diet.

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/08/15/are-eggs-good-for-you-or-not
I think eggs are one of the superfoods, and one of the best nutritional bang for your buck out there, packed with nutrients, no sugar or salt, and very tasty, versatile, satiating and cheap.
Generally they are associated with good health. Bananas are probably the most sugary common fruit but is fine if eaten as part of a varied diet and active lifestyle

wonski

I said debatable, not wrong.

It depends on which studies you read. Eggs are linked to heart diseases as well, but to be fair what isn't these days.

Everything in moderation is just fine in my opinion. Even bread.

Mellor

soporific wrote: »

Don't forget that any wheat-based bread , gluten-free or not, home-made or not, is more insulinogenic than sugar.

Do you have a source for that.
Or care to add units to it.

I'd have a hard time believing that 100g bread produces more insulin that 100g of glucose.

jim o doom wrote: »

Anything made from mechanically produced flour is bad, as the very finely ground particles are very quickly absorbed by the body and cause a siginficant insulin response as a result.

I'd be interest to see if there was any science behind that or whether it was just a theory he made up.
Particle size sounds logical, but kinda ignores that it's in a partially dissolved solution with eggs, milks, water, and baked into a solid mass for a hour.
There there's the issue that faster response doesn't mean greater response.

El Tarangu

AllForIt wrote: »

It's understandable your confused. Bread is nowhere near as healthy as it used to be. The ingredients in modern day bread have been processed to death such that the nutritional value of bread is so low that it is hardly worth consuming.

The biggest trick the bread manufactures have done in recent years is to put seeds on the crust. This is just a trick to make ppl believe it is healthy. Brown sliced bread with seeds on top isn't a jot more healthy than white sliced bread, because they are all equally devoid of nutritional value.

Saw an interesting video on this recently, made me reevaluate a bit the bread that I was buying (one brown bread that I was buying turned to be made with only 16% wholegrain, so nor that healthy after all).

Blaizes

soporific wrote: »

Don't forget that any wheat-based bread , gluten-free or not, home-made or not, is more insulinogenic than sugar. Bread should be enjoyed for what it is: a treat. Consume it like chocolate or alcohol. It is not a health food nor a receptable of essential nutrients. If bread was just another safe food option like eggs or bananas, then people would not feel compulsed to eat it every day and pretend that it was part of a healthy diet.

I thought wheat contained gluten?

Blaizes

I think bread with gluten can cause inflammation and bloating in lots of people. Wheat belly is a thing.

bladespin

El Tarangu wrote: »

Saw an interesting video on this recently, made me reevaluate a bit the bread that I was buying (one brown bread that I was buying turned to be made with only 16% wholegrain, so nor that healthy after all).

Yeah and Scooby's a natti

SmartinMartin

The low gi fresh baked cob in Lidl is probably the tastiest I've ever eaten. I wrote to lidl last year for the ingredients in order to calculate the slimming world value and it scored only 1sin per slice, which is really really good.

bladespin

SmartinMartin wrote: »

The low gi fresh baked cob in Lidl is probably the tastiest I've ever eaten. I wrote to lidl last year for the ingredients in order to calculate the slimming world value and it scored only 1sin per slice, which is really really good.

It's gorgeous, can you pm the list?

SmartinMartin

Sorry, had a quick look but I can't even remember which address I used. They're very helpful, just mail them.

tamara25

I find this topic very interesting. I’ve only a stone to lose & despite walking & calorie counting it ain’t shifting. I am going to cut out bread for the next week & see how things go. I had a lovely bowl of porridge earlier which keeps me full for ages. As mentioned before I eat spelt bread have an intolerance to the ordinary wheat bread. I’m crossing my fingers this will make a difference for me..

wonski

Branchranch wrote: »

All bread is unhealthy, it's made from grains which are harmful to the body like mist grains.

From what I remember the main issue with bread, especially white is high gi.

There are however types of bread offering low/medium gi.

Nutritional value of bread depends on the type, but it is mostly carbs. Not much else.

Wholemeal bread isn't that bad, though.

bladespin

Branchranch wrote: »

All bread is unhealthy, it's made from grains which are harmful to the body like mist grains.

That's absolute BS, bread is fine once you know what you're eating.

bladespin

Branchranch wrote: »

It contains phytic acid which prevents the absorption of nutirents, and often contains lectins which damage the gut.

How much would you have to eat to cause any real damage???

sbsquarepants

B-D-P-- wrote: »

Believe it or not,
Oats and yogurt baked make unbelievable tasty bread and you know what your eating, very healthy and satisfying.

Cant recommend enough.

My daughter is coeliac, the missus makes a soda bread version of this for her - it's very nice, and amazingly "bread like" for want of a better word.

That being said I'm not really a bread eater, so I don't eat much of it!

wonski wrote: »

Putting eggs and bananas in the same sentence about healthy food is debatable.

.

What's wrong with eggs or bananas?

bladespin

sbsquarepants wrote: »

What's wrong with eggs or bananas?

Absolutely nothing, both are very good for you, eggs especially a source of protein, healthy cholesterol etc.

Alf Veedersane

Branchranch wrote: »

It contains phytic acid which prevents the absorption of nutirents, and often contains lectins which damage the gut.

It doesn't prevent the absorption of minerals. It impairs the absorption of some minerals being ingested in that meal. It doesn't affect the absorption of food later - studies look at it on a per-meal basis. Balanced diet (not hugely based on grains, nuts or legumes and even then you can mitigate the impact) and you're fine.

wonski

sbsquarepants wrote: »

My daughter is coeliac, the missus makes a soda bread version of this for her - it's very nice, and amazingly "bread like" for want of a better word.

That being said I'm not really a bread eater, so I don't eat much of it!



What's wrong with eggs or bananas?

I already answered this question earlier in the thread