Tips on Fat and Weight Loss Please

DisneyLover

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

You really do need to stop underestimating/overestimating what you're doing. There are reasons you are not losing weight and the only way to change that is to face the reality.

You said you do 5,000 - 12,000 steps a day. That would suggest to me that your job is fairly sedentary.

I know you say that you work in a hospital, but what kind of job do you have in the hospital?

Im in catering and moving to clerical in a few weeks but how is it sedentary when Im on my feet all day ?

Ill upload a screenshot of my fitbit stats when Im home from work!

Alf Veedersane

DisneyLover wrote: »

Im in catering and moving to clerical in a few weeks but how is it sedentary when Im on my feet all day ?

Ill upload a screenshot of my fitbit stats when Im home from work!

If you're trying to lose weight and tracking intake, it's better to err on the side of burning fewer calories through activity.

irishman86

DisneyLover wrote: »

Im in catering and moving to clerical in a few weeks but how is it sedentary when Im on my feet all day ?

Ill upload a screenshot of my fitbit stats when Im home from work!

Being on your feet isnt imo a active lifestyle

DisneyLover

irishman86 wrote: »

Is that not a awful lot of calories for a woman trying to lose weight?
Im a man and eat below 1500 calories when I try to drop weight.
Like others have said you may not even realise how much calories you are eating.
A can of beans comes up on apps for example as 140g when in reality you eat more than that

No its not a lot though. And I lost weight before on 2000 calories.

DisneyLover

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

If you're trying to lose weight and tracking intake, it's better to err on the side of burning fewer calories through activity.

Ive cut calories and Im walking a lot though, I burn a lot through exercise

DisneyLover

irishman86 wrote: »

Being on your feet isnt imo a active lifestyle

I have it as lightly active on my MFP. Theres sed, lightly active, active and very active !

I have it set to lightly active and lose 1.5 lb a week and its 1900 cal.

Alf Veedersane

DisneyLover wrote: »

Ive cut calories and Im walking a lot though, I burn a lot through exercise

If you've cut calories below maintenance, you'll lose weight.

If you don't lose weight, you're either eating more than you think or you're burning less than you think.

Assuming fewer calories are burned reduces the risk of being wrong on the calories out side of the balance.

mathie

Mellor wrote: »

Lets say that are two average men, average activity.
If one eats 3000 cals of clean healthy foods (not difficult)
And the other eats 1800 cals of what ever is convenient.

All other things being equal, which one of them loses bodyfat?

marialouise wrote: »

No, it's excess calories that make people obese.

You're both ignoring the role of insulin if you just blinding follow "excess calories that make people obese".

If you're eating unhealthy calories then you will get insulin spikes.
The prescence of insulin determines whether we burn body fat or not.

If I eat 2000 calories of healthy food that doesn't cause big insulin spikes.
If you eat 1000 calories of unhealthy food that does cause big insulin spikes then you will gain weight.

Look at people with diabetes.

mathie

DisneyLover wrote: »

I have it as lightly active on my MFP. Theres sed, lightly active, active and very active !

I have it set to lightly active and lose 1.5 lb a week and its 1900 cal.

Do you have a food diary?

DisneyLover

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

If you've cut calories below maintenance, you'll lose weight.

If you don't lose weight, you're either eating more than you think or you're burning less than you think.

Assuming fewer calories are burned reduces the risk of being wrong on the calories out side of the balance.

Ok grand thanks ! Ive checked loads of sites and my maintenance calories comes up between 2400-2600 calories. Ive cut them by 500 - 1900 and Im burning 300-600 a day through exercise.

DisneyLover

mathie wrote: »

Do you have a food diary?

Yes on MFP

livedadream

mathie wrote: »

Mellor wrote: »

Lets say that are two average men, average activity.
If one eats 3000 cals of clean healthy foods (not difficult)
And the other eats 1800 cals of what ever is convenient.

All other things being equal, which one of them loses bodyfat?

marialouise wrote: »

No, it's excess calories that make people obese.

You're both ignoring the role of insulin if you just blinding follow "excess calories that make people obese".

If you're eating unhealthy calories then you will get insulin spikes.
The prescence of insulin determines whether we burn body fat or not.

If I eat 2000 calories of healthy food that doesn't cause big insulin spikes.
If you eat 1000 calories of unhealthy food that does cause big insulin spikes then you will gain weight.

Look at people with diabetes.

you mean people born with an an immune disorder that means their pancreas doesn't function correctly and the immune system attacks healthy islet cells?   those people?

Blacktie.

Alot of your posts read like the Dunning-Krugger effect in play Mathie. You claim we've said things we haven't and then when it looks like you've accepted it (without saying so) you love the goal posts. Calories don't matter. Only food quality matters. O but you can't eat that much in good food. O you can, well insulin then.

whoopsadoodles

mathie wrote: »

Do you have a food diary?

Well this just highlights that you haven't read the thread to be honest.

DisneyLover wrote: »

Im in catering and moving to clerical in a few weeks but how is it sedentary when Im on my feet all day ?

Ill upload a screenshot of my fitbit stats when Im home from work!

OP, what calories does your fitbit have down for yesterday? I'm assuming that all of your stats are correctly up to day on the app.

mathie

livedadream wrote: »

you mean people born with an an immune disorder that means their pancreas doesn't function correctly and the immune system attacks healthy islet cells?   those people?

http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/losing-weight-with-diabetes/

As a naturally occurring anabolic hormone, insulin promotes the uptake and storage of glucose, amino acids, and fat into insulin-sensitive cells around your body (mainly muscle and fat cells). It doesn’t matter whether it’s released naturally, injected, or pumped—all insulin and insulin analogues have these same effects. Going on intensive insulin therapy is associated with fat weight gain (1), for people with both type 1 and type 2 diabetes. Some of the weight gain comes from that if you’re using insulin to keep your blood glucose in control, you’ll be keeping and storing all of the calories that you’re eating instead of losing some glucose through urine (during hyperglycemia). Unfortunately, this realization has led some people to try skipping or limiting their insulin use to help them lose weight (2), but that is a dangerous practice that can lead to loss of excess muscle mass and life-threatening conditions like DKA.

The best way to balance your insulin use and your body weight, in my opinion, is to be physically active to keep your overall insulin levels lower. It’s easier to lose weight, too, when you’re taking less insulin—or releasing less of your own if your pancreas still does that.

mathie

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Well this just highlights that you haven't read the thread to be honest.

Do I have to have read every post here to comment?

mathie

DisneyLover wrote: »

Yes on MFP

Can you share it?
Not familiar with MFP.

whoopsadoodles

mathie wrote: »

Do I have to have read every post here to comment?

When you're making claims about what has and hasn't been posted, then yes.

whoopsadoodles

mathie wrote: »

Can you share it?
Not familiar with MFP.

My Fitness Pal.

As stated a few times in the thread.

mathie

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

When you're making claims about what has and hasn't been posted, then yes.

Where did I make a claim about what hasn't been posted?

njs030

Op is your fitbit connected to mfp? And does it add to your calories each day giving you extra calories to eat?

I noticed you claimed to burn 300-600 calories a day on exercise, if you're using fitbit to call yourself lightly active you can't also use those calories as part of your daily exercise.

livedadream

mathie wrote: »

http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/losing-weight-with-diabetes/

As a naturally occurring anabolic hormone, insulin promotes the uptake and storage of glucose, amino acids, and fat into insulin-sensitive cells around your body (mainly muscle and fat cells).  It doesn’t matter whether it’s released naturally, injected, or pumped—all insulin and insulin analogues have these same effects.  Going on intensive insulin therapy is associated with fat weight gain (1), for people with both type 1 and type 2 diabetes.  Some of the weight gain comes from that if you’re using insulin to keep your blood glucose in control, you’ll be keeping and storing all of the calories that you’re eating instead of losing some glucose through urine (during hyperglycemia).  Unfortunately, this realization has led some people to try skipping or limiting their insulin use to help them lose weight (2), but that is a dangerous practice that can lead to loss of excess muscle mass and life-threatening conditions like DKA.

The best way to balance your insulin use and your body weight, in my opinion, is to be physically active to keep your overall insulin levels lower.  It’s easier to lose weight, too, when you’re taking less insulin—or releasing less of your own if your pancreas still does that.

I can copy and paste too mate at least mine was written by an actual doctor yours was written by someone with a PhD in exercise no MD around the place at all ...:
It can seem as if the insulin is causing weight gain. The truth is: Too many calories are causing the weight gain, not the insulin. If you are eating more calories than your body is using and you are taking insulin to keep your blood glucose levels in the normal range, you may gain weight.

There are those who might argue that it is simply the treatment of diabetes that causes weight gain. As we reduce blood sugars, that sugar is taken out of the blood and into the body as fat. If this were true, then any treatment of diabetes should cause equal weight gain

SteelyDanJalapeno

This thread is a great argument for introducing more nutritional based material in Secondary School.

Alf Veedersane

mathie wrote: »

Where did I make a claim about what hasn't been posted?

Everywhere.

Almost every post is telling people that calorie counting is a vehicle for allowing poor quality food in the diet.

No one has said that.

People have advised the OP to improve food quality.

We get it: food quality is better for health.


And they all lived happily ever after. The end.

mathie

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Everywhere.

Almost every post is telling people that calorie counting is a vehicle for allowing poor quality food in the diet.

No one has said that.

People have advised the OP to improve food quality.

We get it: food quality is better for health.


And they all lived happily ever after. The end.

*cough*

Originally Posted by marialouise View Post
No, it's excess calories that make people obese.

livedadream

TiltedBrain wrote: »

This thread is a great argument for introducing more nutritional based material in Secondary School.

home ec at junior cycle and Social and scientific at leaving cert do whole sections on nutrition and specialist diets and the new food pyramid etc micros and macros of food and hows its broken down and the lot. actually pretty informative.

Hrududu

mathie wrote: »

*cough*

Originally Posted by marialouise View Post
No, it's excess calories that make people obese.

So excess calories are not responsible for weight gain? Got it

mathie

livedadream wrote: »

I can copy and paste too mate at least mine was written by an actual doctor yours was written by someone with a PhD in exercise no MD around the place at all ...:
It can seem as if the insulin is causing weight gain. The truth is: Too many calories are causing the weight gain, not the insulin. If you are eating more calories than your body is using and you are taking insulin to keep your blood glucose levels in the normal range, you may gain weight.

There are those who might argue that it is simply the treatment of diabetes that causes weight gain. As we reduce blood sugars, that sugar is taken out of the blood and into the body as fat. If this were true, then any treatment of diabetes should cause equal weight gain

OK lets say for example that someone is hungry and they've a poor diet.
Insulin levels are high due to the poor quality food they eat.
So they eat, say 600 calories.
Half of that goes into the muscles and the other half goes off to be stored as fat due to the high insulin.
The body shouts "I'm still hungry" so they eat more and the process continues.

So yes I'd agree that it's the excess calories that are causing the weight gain but its the high insulin / poor diet that's causing the need for more food.

DisneyLover

notjustsweet wrote: »

Op is your fitbit connected to mfp? And does it add to your calories each day giving you extra calories to eat?

I noticed you claimed to burn 300-600 calories a day on exercise, if you're using fitbit to call yourself lightly active you can't also use those calories as part of your daily exercise.

No its so annoying ! My fitbit was connected to my old account - forgot password for the mfp account and now cant attach to my newer one!!!! Lol

DisneyLover

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Well this just highlights that you haven't read the thread to be honest.




OP, what calories does your fitbit have down for yesterday? I'm assuming that all of your stats are correctly up to day on the app.

Forgot it yesterday.. You know the actual fitbit bean that you charge.. Yeah left that at home and had the band on for hours before I realised haha. Ill upload it today have it on today lol