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Which do you prefer Dub T1 or T2?

  • 01-05-2017 2:14pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭


    I must say its T1 for me, but that's out of pure nostalgia, as I recall the excitement flying out to far flung destinations as a younger man. T2 does seem a bit soulless though in comparison. Perhaps it lacks the grit a Ryanair passenger might bring :-D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    T2 is streets ahead however T1 has come a long way in recent years. I would almost say the shops selection is that bit better in T1 now but T2 for everything else.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    T2 for me, although I also appreciate the nostalgia you speak of with T1, but T1 is so different now it hardly resembles the memories I have


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭deaddonkey15


    T2 for sure. T1 is a bit of a kip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭willowthewisp


    T2, but hate the way you check into T2 for some flights then actually have to fly out of T1. If you are going to have to fly from T1, they should let us just go through Security there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭The Veteran


    T2, but hate the way you check into T2 for some flights then actually have to fly out of T1. If you are going to have to fly from T1, they should let us just go through Security there.

    You can use T1 security if you want, no restriction. Plus the 300 Gates are officially a shard facility (I would say as the number of flights using US Pre Clearance expands, expect more EI short haul to use Pier 3 with current Pier 3 stalwarts likely to be moved to Pier 2)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    I've only been a T2 once, quite a while ago. Iirc it was just plain, brushed metal blandness with lots of escalators. Has it changed much? T1 has all the memories but I can't say I'm a fan as such. Ive wasted too much of my life waiting around airports so I can't say I really enjoy any of them so I'll opt for T1 purely for the cheaper Ryanair flights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    Locker10a wrote: »
    T2 for me, although I also appreciate the nostalgia you speak of with T1, but T1 is so different now it hardly resembles the memories I have

    I hear you. My first time time ever leaving Ireland was Dub-ams-bkk 14 yrs ago, the excitement was palpable. I took off with EI from pier B. Amazing how nostalgia can influence.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    lufties wrote: »
    Locker10a wrote: »
    T2 for me, although I also appreciate the nostalgia you speak of with T1, but T1 is so different now it hardly resembles the memories I have

    I hear you. My first time time ever leaving Ireland was Dub-ams-bkk 14 yrs ago, the excitement was palpable. I took off with EI from pier B. Amazing how nostalgia can influence.
    Yeah, I have great memories of getting Aer Arann (remember them) and Ryanair flights from Pier A I think it was called at the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    The original terminal building
    A thing of beauty, which shows what can happen to buildings from this era when they're maintained (unlike bus aras)

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/dublin-airport-s-old-terminal-a-walk-through-history-1.2075933?mode=amp


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 nkfox


    T2 for its simplicity and function, but I do love the walk past the original terminal building. It just evokes that bygone era of exclusive air travel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    As someone who uses the airport at least twice a week I much prefer T2 to T1 regardless of the history. I always travel with hand baggage only and quite often (depending on the time of day) go through security in T2 and walk up to my flight in T1.
    T1 security can get quite crowded with stag parties and LoCo passengers who haven't grasped the concept of the security procedures and you end up getting stuck behind them while they're sent back and forth through the metal detector or have the litre bottle of water removed from their luggage.
    You get more business type savvy travellers in T2 so it's often an easier experience.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    Flew from T2 last week to UK. Usually this route I'm flying from T1. T2 was terrible at 6am, the queues at the different cafes was huge and there were no seats. I'll be back to T1 for my next early UK flight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    As someone who uses the airport at least twice a week I much prefer T2 to T1 regardless of the history. I always travel with hand baggage only and quite often (depending on the time of day) go through security in T2 and walk up to my flight in T1.
    T1 security can get quite crowded with stag parties and LoCo passengers who haven't grasped the concept of the security procedures and you end up getting stuck behind them while they're sent back and forth through the metal detector or have the litre bottle of water removed from their luggage.
    You get more business type savvy travellers in T2 so it's often an easier experience.

    I guess I can't argue with that..when I started this thread it was nice and chilled pre security..then I qeued for 20 mins, and got through to a crowded departures..it reminded me of Luton airport a bit..so I suppose T2 is a much more pleasant experience all in all. I used to work for cityjet based at T1 pier C..that's all gone now so the only recognisable bit is landside perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,292 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    T2 is a modern fit for purpose terminal, bright airy and plenty of space.Only issue is having put check in on the ground floor, arrivals 1st and security second.

    T1 is a horrible mess of bits attached to other bits, full of pinch points and narrow corridors, reminds me of FCO or the old T1 in LHR, started out well but became a mess later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭markpb


    T2 is a modern fit for purpose terminal, bright airy and plenty of space.Only issue is having put check in on the ground floor, arrivals 1st and security second.

    My only complaint about T2 is arrivals. I'm at a loss about why a trip from the second floor to the first floor must involve so many escalators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    markpb wrote: »
    My only complaint about T2 is arrivals. I'm at a loss about why a trip from the second floor to the first floor must involve so many escalators.

    Try T2 in lhr, escalator heaven (or hell)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    I think T1 is my favourite, better facilities on arrival with a hard to miss tourism office and more convenient for all the buses too. I typically leave quicker from T1 than from T2.

    Not a smoker but T1's smoking area is a nice touch also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    I prefer T2 myself.Arnie was great in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭john boye


    I prefer T2 myself.Arnie was great in it.

    Great soundtrack too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,883 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I'd have to say T2 as it always seems quieter than T1. And given the fact I regularly fly Aer Lingus, I'd be slightly biased towards T2
    (I must also stipulate that I've only ever used priority check in & fast track security at T2, so that definitely skewers my view)

    However, I'm not a fan of the overall design of the place. On the outside it looks fantastic, but once you get inside its a different story.
    Check in on the ground floor, then having to go up 2 levels (via arrivals) to the security area, then back down 2 levels to get to your gate seems illogical, and I don't seem to recall many other airport terminals set up like this (though I'm most likely wrong).

    I also really dislike when arriving at either a remote stand or at a T1 gate (on an AL flight) and having to walk all the way around to T2 passport control via that little prefab corridor, or be dropped off by the bus half way down the T2 concourse (bonus points when you see 2/3 flights just parking up at that moment so you know there'll be a big queue at passport control).

    Also, some of the T2 gates seem to be lacking on the amount of seating at the actual gate!

    T1 has definitely made some big improvements lately, including being a lot more spacious post security (despite only having a tight space to work with), and the arrivals hall is so much better now that there is natural light getting in.

    Maybe I actually do prefer T1 after all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Ashbx


    T1....purely because there is a smoking area there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Have to say T1, although often when flying from T1 in the evening I'll go through security at T2 (shorter) and have a look through the shops. It's very cold and lacking in atmosphere, just kind of a modern but bare interior.

    T1 has much more character imo, although the walk out to the Ryanair (basically) concourse can be a little annoying.

    I actually do have a peeve though, can they organise a system where people standing on the travelator keep to the left and the people wishing to walk can keep right? Having big families of 8 sprawling themselves out over a whole travelator isn't fun when you wish to walk, and can't imagine how frustrating it is if you're late for a flight!


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Thats called herd behaviour. No system in place will stop it happening.

    The 'stand to the side' system is logical. But some people/groups of people will blissfully ignore such a system or perhaps not even be aware of its existence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    T2 is a modern fit for purpose terminal, bright airy and plenty of space.Only issue is having put check in on the ground floor, arrivals 1st and security second.

    T1 is a horrible mess of bits attached to other bits, full of pinch points and narrow corridors, reminds me of FCO or the old T1 in LHR, started out well but became a mess later

    Does it really make a difference, when you arrive you would have to go from 3rd floor to ground floor via two flights of stairs if you had check in on ground/1st and security on 1st/2nd floor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Works well on the metro systems I've seen it on, why wouldn't it work in the airport?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Works well on the metro systems I've seen it on, why wouldn't it work in the airport?

    I think it's mentality, people on metro/underground are everyday communters and are public transport savvy, the problem you mention with the type of people in airports who cause blockages is they are the opposite of daily commuters and are ignorant/oblivious to other members of the public. They have, as mentioned herd mentality and are in "holiday mode" which often means the brain is all but shut down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    I don't fully accept your point, as many travellers are not actually going to holiday destinations anyway. The top 9 destinations from Dublin are all city destinations!

    While you'll always have the few eejits who'll never comply, at least you'll have a leg to stand on if you wish to ask them to move, and again crowd mentality, if everyone does it they'll do it too!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    I don't fully accept your point, as many travellers are not actually going to holiday destinations anyway. The top 9 destinations from Dublin are all city destinations!

    While you'll always have the few eejits who'll never comply, at least you'll have a leg to stand on if you wish to ask them to move, and again crowd mentality, if everyone does it they'll do it too!

    While there are many business travellers/destinations I'd imagine they are easily outnumbered by leisure/seasonal/holiday travellers who are out of their usual environment.
    Some signage may help, worth a try I guess!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Mr.S wrote: »
    But only 5 mins walk from T2 to T1 so no biggie.

    If you run, then maybe, no hope you'd do the walk in 5 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭Noxegon


    Locker10a wrote: »
    I think it's mentality, people on metro/underground are everyday communters and are public transport savvy, the problem you mention with the type of people in airports who cause blockages is they are the opposite of daily commuters and are ignorant/oblivious to other members of the public. They have, as mentioned herd mentality and are in "holiday mode" which often means the brain is all but shut down.

    I'd also say that a certain amount of it is Ireland. You see the same thing every day on the M50 – people staying in the outside lane doing ten under the limit. Do that in Germany and you'll be stopped by the law.

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on boards.ie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    Locker10a wrote: »
    I think it's mentality, people on metro/underground are everyday communters and are public transport savvy, the problem you mention with the type of people in airports who cause blockages is they are the opposite of daily commuters and are ignorant/oblivious to other members of the public. They have, as mentioned herd mentality and are in "holiday mode" which often means the brain is all but shut down.

    It's an Irish mentality. Go to France or anywhere on the continent for that matter and if you don't stand on the right, the person behind you trying to get by, will make you move.

    Anywhere in Ireland where there's an escalator, Irish people stand two abreast for some absurd reason.
    Whether it's a travellator or escalator, I take the stairs now, unless the travellator is empty.
    Stairs is faster and healthier too.

    Maybe it's because they're only quite a recent addition to Ireland.
    Perhaps we need signs on all escalators saying stand on the right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    Locker10a wrote: »
    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Works well on the metro systems I've seen it on, why wouldn't it work in the airport?

    I think it's mentality, people on metro/underground are everyday communters and are public transport savvy, the problem you mention with the type of people in airports who cause blockages is they are the opposite of daily commuters and are ignorant/oblivious to other members of the public. They have, as mentioned herd mentality and are in "holiday mode" which often means the brain is all but shut down.

    I had that yesterday on the travelator in T1..people clogging it up with no etiquette..I was say excuse me every 2 mins, and I could tell people thought I was being arsey.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Locker10a wrote: »
    I think it's mentality, people on metro/underground are everyday communters and are public transport savvy, the problem you mention with the type of people in airports who cause blockages is they are the opposite of daily commuters and are ignorant/oblivious to other members of the public. They have, as mentioned herd mentality and are in "holiday mode" which often means the brain is all but shut down.

    It's an Irish mentality. Go to France or anywhere on the continent for that matter and if you don't stand on the right, the person behind you trying to get by, will make you move.

    Anywhere in Ireland where there's an escalator, Irish people stand two abreast for some absurd reason.
    Whether it's a travellator or escalator, I take the stairs now, unless the travellator is empty.
    Stairs is faster and healthier too.

    Maybe it's because they're only quite a recent addition to Ireland.
    Perhaps we need signs on all escalators saying stand on the right.

    Perhaps you're right there, although I've experienced it a lot in Gatwick which has multiple travelators too, groups of people stand on them, with bags blocking the way and don't even walk..they just stand there moving at 1-2mph!!! Also to be fair to Irish people in Italy and Spain public order courtesy leaves little to be desired


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    Locker10a wrote: »
    Locker10a wrote: »
    I think it's mentality, people on metro/underground are everyday communters and are public transport savvy, the problem you mention with the type of people in airports who cause blockages is they are the opposite of daily commuters and are ignorant/oblivious to other members of the public. They have, as mentioned herd mentality and are in "holiday mode" which often means the brain is all but shut down.

    It's an Irish mentality. Go to France or anywhere on the continent for that matter and if you don't stand on the right, the person behind you trying to get by, will make you move.

    Anywhere in Ireland where there's an escalator, Irish people stand two abreast for some absurd reason.
    Whether it's a travellator or escalator, I take the stairs now, unless the travellator is empty.
    Stairs is faster and healthier too.

    Maybe it's because they're only quite a recent addition to Ireland.
    Perhaps we need signs on all escalators saying stand on the right.

    Perhaps you're right there, although I've experienced it a lot in Gatwick which has multiple travelators too, groups of people stand on them, with bags blocking the way and don't even walk..they just stand there moving at 1-2mph!!! Also to be fair to Irish people in Italy and Spain public order courtesy leaves little to be desired
    I work at Gatwick, and found T1 Dub like a cattle mart yesterday in comparison (after security).


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    lufties wrote: »
    Locker10a wrote: »
    Locker10a wrote: »
    I think it's mentality, people on metro/underground are everyday communters and are public transport savvy, the problem you mention with the type of people in airports who cause blockages is they are the opposite of daily commuters and are ignorant/oblivious to other members of the public. They have, as mentioned herd mentality and are in "holiday mode" which often means the brain is all but shut down.

    It's an Irish mentality. Go to France or anywhere on the continent for that matter and if you don't stand on the right, the person behind you trying to get by, will make you move.

    Anywhere in Ireland where there's an escalator, Irish people stand two abreast for some absurd reason.
    Whether it's a travellator or escalator, I take the stairs now, unless the travellator is empty.
    Stairs is faster and healthier too.

    Maybe it's because they're only quite a recent addition to Ireland.
    Perhaps we need signs on all escalators saying stand on the right.

    Perhaps you're right there, although I've experienced it a lot in Gatwick which has multiple travelators too, groups of people stand on them, with bags blocking the way and don't even walk..they just stand there moving at 1-2mph!!! Also to be fair to Irish people in Italy and Spain public order courtesy leaves little to be desired
    I work at Gatwick, and found T1 Dub like a cattle mart yesterday in comparison (after security).
    Those travelators as you walk from the train station to the shuttle in the South term can be a nightmare, people standing with their cases on the travelators, I find landside to be worse in general as at least airside people have checked in the large cases already, where's landside passenger have their large cases and airport case trolleys too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    lufties wrote: »
    I had that yesterday on the travelator in T1..people clogging it up with no etiquette..I was say excuse me every 2 mins, and I could tell people thought I was being arsey.

    I cover a lot of ground by travelator, always at a brisk pace in the LH lane and believe me you're going to move if I come up behind you and you're just standing there hogging the lane. You will be asked politely to move along or step aside, but only once, after that I'm coming through regardless....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭rushfan


    I cover a lot of ground by travelator, always at a brisk pace in the LH lane and believe me you're going to move if I come up behind you and you're just standing there hogging the lane. You will be asked politely to move along or step aside, but only once, after that I'm coming through regardless....


    I'm beginning to see how you got your username!!!!😂


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭boobycharlton


    T2 by a country mile. So much space compared to T1. I can always find a quiet spot to read before my flight. Far less stag do type folks in hilarious t-shirts who can never seem to grasp the concept of metal detectors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭term


    When T2 opened, we asked the question about why check-in and security were on different floors.
    The answer at the time was, because of footprint of the terminal, it would have been either arriving or departing pax who would have to move between floors. Whomever made this decision did it in the belief it would be easier on arriving pax to have a "one-floor" route out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    I cover a lot of ground by travelator, always at a brisk pace in the LH lane and believe me you're going to move if I come up behind you and you're just standing there hogging the lane. You will be asked politely to move along or step aside, but only once, after that I'm coming through regardless....

    Can't wait to bump into you Pal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    Pat Dunne wrote: »
    Can't wait to bump into you Pal!

    Dawdle in the left lane of the travelator at the airport and you soon will... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭LiamaDelta


    you have to remember that people are in the airport for different reasons....some have all the time in the world, others, like myself make every second count. So whilst I generally am one of those marching along the left of a travelator and I love the discipline of the London Underground, I think it's unfair to cast it as rudeness on others simply because they may not be aware of 'etiquette', or they are not frequent travellers etc. It's not difficult to politely ask people to move and the majority are very willing.

    Back on topic, as a frequent user of both, I'd have to say T1 is far better for shopping and food options. Security I find pretty much the same in both, but for ease of movement, layout and speed of getting through, I find T2 probably edging it. Can't believe they are getting away with that lounge still in T1 though...only for the really nice staff there's not much to it. For an airport of it's size I'm frequently disappointed by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Never used T2, but have possibly, unknown to my self, used some of the new piers, am only guessing, as they were big and shinny compared to what had used previously.

    :D
    I cover a lot of ground by travelator, always at a brisk pace in the LH lane and believe me you're going to move if I come up behind you and you're just standing there hogging the lane. You will be asked politely to move along or step aside, but only once, after that I'm coming through regardless....
    rushfan wrote: »
    I'm beginning to see how you got your username!!!!😂

    Gonna side with Billy here. Born in London, and well used to the etiquette of walk on the left, standing on the right of LU escalators. First you will get an excuse me, then possibly a move over please, then it's just a move other. If you are the 4th/5th/6th person standing on the left, I am more than likely just coming through as well. And whilst not well travelled outside of Europe, have never really noticed people hogging escalators/travelators in airports or metro/underground facilities, anywhere, even in Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    So; just so I have this right (haven't really used T2 before at all) - am I able to clear security at T2; then walk over to my gate in T1?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    So; just so I have this right (haven't really used T2 before at all) - am I able to clear security at T2; then walk over to my gate in T1?

    Yup, its even signposted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    Yup, its even signposted.

    Excellent, will try it out on my next flight. Thanks!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig


    The pints and fry ups are nicer in T1


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Yup, its even signposted.

    Excellent, will try it out on my next flight. Thanks!

    Allow time for this, the walk from T2 to T1 is the equivalent of the walk from T1 security to Pier D, which is the "newish" one with the long walk mainly used by Ryanair


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