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Carpenter falls off ladder loses €60k claim.

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    #2
    me_irl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    Horrendous picture of the victim in that article.

    How dare they stoop so low to post that!


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    #3
    bear1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,812 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    And it's a win for common sense.


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    #4
    Satts
    Registered Users Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Satts


    Did you hear about the guy who saw a sign, "Climb this ladder to Success".
    The guy climbed the ladder and when he got to the top there was a guy already at the top and he said to him "Hi, I'm Cess".


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    #5
    Winterlong
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    No decision on costs.


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    #6
    howamidifferent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    As for the result of the case....
















    Pride comes before a fall...
















    I'll get my coat.


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    #7
    Jack the Stripper
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    What James Bond film did he fall off the ladder?


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    #8
    Armchair Andy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    Anyone ever read "his own misfortune "? Worth a read?


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    #9
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    James Bond Junior wrote: »
    My father fell of a ladder in his early thirties and has a fine scar on his face since. Why did he fall? Because he didn't have the ladder positioned safely and it was rickety.

    We need to start taking responsibly for our actions in this country a bit more and stop the blame game.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/carpenter-who-fell-off-ladder-fails-in-60-000-damages-claim-1.3027605?mode=amp

    This guy had received training and put up the ladder incorrectly yet wanted to blame someone else for his negligence.
    My great grandad died of a pneumonia in the 1930s that would today be easily treatable today.

    Bloody snowflakes these days.

    Bring back consumptive tuberculosis and endemic illiteracy, I say; what what!


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    #10
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Still better than Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars.


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    #11
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    do some people actually need to be trained to use a ladder?


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    #12
    jonon9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    do some people actually need to be trained to use a ladder?

    You be surprised by the number of people who don't know how to use a ladder properly.


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    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    do some people actually need to be trained to use a ladder?

    Obviously.

    Just like those stupid bloody manual handling courses.


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    jonon9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Obviously.

    Just like those stupid bloody manual handling courses.

    Don't forget the ever outdated safe pass where even a dog could pass.


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    Armchair Andy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    jonon9 wrote:
    Don't forget the ever outdated safe pass where even a dog could pass.


    Tick the box. Hand over the moola.


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    K.Flyer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    jonon9 wrote: »
    Don't forget the ever outdated safe pass where even a dog could pass.

    Biggest contrived racket ever.


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    jonon9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Biggest contrived racket ever.

    How to pass the safe pass by knowing the following words.

    1: Cement burns
    2: Vibration White finger (Raynaud's syndrome)
    3: PPE
    4: Storage of chemicals

    Boom you passed, see you in four years.

    Followed by Manual handling:

    Instructor: Lift that box.
    Me: Lifts box the right way (back straight knees bent)
    Instructor: good man you passed.


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    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    jonon9 wrote: »
    How to pass the safe pass by knowing the following words.

    1: Cement burns
    2: Vibration White finger (Raynaud's syndrome)
    3: PPE
    4: Storage of chemicals

    Boom you passed, see you in four years.

    Followed by Manual handling:

    Instructor: Lift that box.
    Me: Lifts box the right way (back straight knees bent)
    Instructor: good man you passed.

    I hope he assessed the load correctly


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    jonon9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    I hope he assessed the load correctly

    Yip give it an aul kick with your foot first :pac:


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    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Haha delighted for him, fcuking compo culture is the reason everyone's insurance premiums are through the roof


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    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    jonon9 wrote: »
    Yip give it an aul kick with your foot first :pac:

    with a Golden Pages book in the box


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    jonon9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    with a Golden Pages book in the box

    I see your no stranger to the box then.


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    K.Flyer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    jonon9 wrote: »
    How to pass the safe pass by knowing the following words.

    1: Cement burns
    2: Vibration White finger (Raynaud's syndrome)
    3: PPE
    4: Storage of chemicals

    Boom you passed, see you in four years.

    Followed by Manual handling:

    Instructor: Lift that box.
    Me: Lifts box the right way (back straight knees bent)
    Instructor: good man you passed.

    Things I remember from my last one...

    Dealing with vehicles reversing up to open trenches..
    Using a starting handle on a dumper truck..
    Correct signage and locations for scaffolding..
    Forms, Forms, more Forms, which I will never see again.
    Something something something else.
    Approx 1 hr or so of a full day was there anything in relation to my trade as a Plumbing and Heating contractor.
    But surprisingly enough, some didn't pass that day. That was the worrying bit, considering every question was in relation to everything you had just heard him telling you.


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    jonon9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Things I remember from my last one...

    Dealing with vehicles reversing up to open trenches..
    Using a starting handle on a dumper truck..
    Correct signage and locations for scaffolding..
    Forms, Forms, more Forms, which I will never see again.
    Something something something else.
    Approx 1 hr or so of a full day was there anything in relation to my trade as a Plumbing and Heating contractor.
    But surprisingly enough, some didn't pass that day. That was the worrying bit, considering every question was in relation to everything you had just heard him telling you.

    Pretty much. The guy actually tells you the answers.


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    #25
    Birneybau
    Registered Users Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/schoolgirl-awarded-12k-after-man-dived-on-top-of-her-in-holiday-swimming-pool-35572051.html
    A 12-year-old schoolgirl, who injured her chin when a man dived on top of her in a swimming pool in Spain, has been awarded €12,500 damages in the Circuit Civil Court.

    Through her father Peter, of Little Pace Woods, Clonee, Dublin, Megan sued travel agent Linevana Ltd, of Lower Liffey Street, Dublin, and the hotel for negligence and breach of duty.

    Happens in Spain, sues in Ireland, and wins.


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    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    do some people actually need to be trained to use a ladder?

    Ladders are a very very bad idea. They've been banned in my own workplace for over 15 years now. If you want to get at something up high it's scaffolding or a mobile work platform. Nothing else. 99% of workplace safety statements will ban the use of ladders completely.


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    check_six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    with a Golden Pages book in the box

    A Golden Pages in the box? That's fierce sophisticated!

    We had an empty box. There were gasps when I picked the box up the way you would normally pick up an empty box in a sort of lazy running scoop. Failing to prepare like an olympic weightlifter with chalk, belt, and team of screaming trainers made the health and safety trainer fella quite cranky. There was something about the trainer's methods that bugged me and I just couldn't get with the show. I suppose I must be more of a method actor!


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    #28
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    Ladders are a very very bad idea. They've been banned in my own workplace for over 15 years now. If you want to get at something up high it's scaffolding or a mobile work platform. Nothing else. 99% of workplace safety statements will ban the use of ladders completely.

    Don't forget your safety harness if you are working higher than 3 feet


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    #29
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I've been in charge of health and safety, or maybe I still am in charge of health and safety.. anyway, one day we got a surprise inspection and the inspector started highlighting things we should change. So I asked for a guide book, or what regulations we should be using, any kind of instructions that we could follow to make ourselves more compliant. The inspector looked a bit taken aback and flustered by the question. They had sent out posters previously, the kind with one picture and a tick, and another picture with an x. The inspector pointed to that and said it should be something like that. Not a clue. I don't think we've had an inspection since.

    It is a money making racket, I don't think anyone really knows what they're doing.


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    #30
    bonzodog2
    Registered Users Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    Is it not just a CYA thing, for businesses to be able to tell their insurers "All our staff have attended the the relevant training course" ?


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    I love Sean nos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭I love Sean nos


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    do some people actually need to be trained to use a ladder?
    Page 1: Going up.
    Page 2: Coming down.


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