Waterford GAA Discussion Thread - **MOD NOTE POST #1**

danganabu

culbaire wrote: »

For an allegedly Tipperary man, you seem to have an inordinate interest in Waterford GAA matters. I rightly criticised John Mullane for continuously putting pressure on the Waterford team in his newspaper column. Glad to see you have been reading up on my posts. You are obviously a De La Salle supporter.

I have an ''inordinate'' interest in all GAA matters, I hope this is acceptable to you??

And I have absolutely no connection to De la Salle whatsoever, in fact my cousin who played with Waterford was a Mount Sion player as it happens.

Don't do that blind club allegiance rubbish myself

independent11

culbaire wrote: »

For an allegedly Tipperary man, you seem to have an inordinate interest in Waterford GAA matters. I rightly criticised John Mullane for continuously putting pressure on the Waterford team in his newspaper column. Glad to see you have been reading up on my posts. You are obviously a De La Salle supporter.

Tipp and other county supporters are welcome on this site and thankfully across other county threads too. As a longtime reader of posts and occasional contributor to this site its the agenda driven posters like Culbaire that drag down proper debate and drive genuine contributors away. It's obvious there is an anti East Waterford, DLS, John Mullane and Derek McGrath agenda in play here and lamenting for hurling from almost 60 yrs ago. Thankfully most don't take the bait and offer a reply. Will do the same from now on. Thanks for the comments Danganabu, keep contributing.

mickmackmcgoo

Some good games this weekend
De La Salle v Dungarvan
Lismore v Fourmilewater
Roanmore v Mount Sion

Roanmore missing their 2 best players so Sion to win

Is it only 2 rounds being played until out inter county season finishes or is there 2 more rounds pencilled in during the summer ?

culbaire

independent11 wrote: »

Tipp and other county supporters are welcome on this site and thankfully across other county threads too. As a longtime reader of posts and occasional contributor to this site its the agenda driven posters like Culbaire that drag down proper debate and drive genuine contributors away. It's obvious there is an anti East Waterford, DLS, John Mullane and Derek McGrath agenda in play here and lamenting for hurling from almost 60 yrs ago. Thankfully most don't take the bait and offer a reply. Will do the same from now on. Thanks for the comments Danganabu, keep contributing.

You have contributed thirty posts. You have a clear cut agenda as is obvious from your contributions so far. Your agenda is to shut down any critical analysis of the current set up at senior intercounty level in Waterford. We have had several new posters appear out of the woodwork with the same agenda. Whether you like it or not there is a debate underway COUNTY WIDE. Mullane deserved what criticism he got for some of his articles.
I do not have an anti East Waterford agenda. You dont even know where I live.

Deskjockey

culbaire wrote: »

Deskjockey wrote: »

Now I have heard that the old Waterford team of the 50s and 60s were considered as a stylish team but the last sentance above is absolute horse manure as regards the skill levels. As TAN97 has said above, the level of skill even 20 years ago wasnt near the level it is now, where space is at a premium and players havent a second to spare. Never mind 50+ years ago.
Old timers looking back through rose tinted spectacles. Thats my opinion anyway.

I have seen the players in question. You did NOT. Don't confuse fitness with skill. Young timers like you are opinionated but illinformed on this matter as you never saw the players in question. Those players used a much heavier sliotar. Ah sure people like me would not know anything about hurling! We all came down the river on a bike. Oh I better be careful. I might "insult" more feelings around here.

Incidentally there are some very brittle personalities posting here who are easily traumatised if the current Waterford manager is criticised.

No hurt feelings here. You are as entitled to your sepia tinted views , ridiculous as they are, as I am mine. However I have seen tg4 all ireland gold matches on tv from the 1970s and 80s with my own eyes, and while the players you named above were not shown as they were from a pre tv era, I have seen enough from the matches I have watched to deduce that the skill levels of intercounty players now are significantly higher than days gone by. The game itself has changed in how it's played, but that is a different argument. No doubt those players you mentioned, if they were to play in the current era, would thrive in the context that defenders are not allowed to take the absolute head off them like they were allowed to fadó fadó

independent11

culbaire wrote: »

You have contributed thirty posts. You have a clear cut agenda as is obvious from your contributions so far. Your agenda is to shut down any critical analysis of the current set up at senior intercounty level in Waterford. We have had several new posters appear out of the woodwork with the same agenda. Whether you like it or not there is a debate underway COUNTY WIDE. Mullane deserved what criticism he got for some of his articles.
I do not have an anti East Waterford agenda. You dont even know where I live.

30 posts, 300 post or more, what difference does that make, is there a specific entitlement attached to posters like you on this forum ?

Unlike yourself I have a life outside of Waterford GAA on Boards.ie but am are still entitled to an opinion.

I won't waste time and energy on your COUNTY WIDE and Mullane comments and by the way where you live (as it is for me) is irrelevant.

You sound like someone who enjoys Waterford not winning Liam McCarthy as it gives you something to complain about. If you want to continue to debate on this send me a PM to continue the discussion as it seems most here are fed up with your one dimensional rhetoric on Waterford hurling.

enoughtaken

mickmackmcgoo wrote: »

Some good games this weekend
De La Salle v Dungarvan
Lismore v Fourmilewater
Roanmore v Mount Sion

Roanmore missing their 2 best players so Sion to win

Is it only 2 rounds being played until out inter county season finishes or is there 2 more rounds pencilled in during the summer ?

Think so. A round of football next week
Other matches this week

Ballygunner V Ballyduff Upper
Tallow V Abbeyside
Passage V Portlaw

Hammer Archer

culbaire wrote: »

You have contributed thirty posts. You have a clear cut agenda as is obvious from your contributions so far. Your agenda is to shut down any critical analysis of the current set up at senior intercounty level in Waterford. We have had several new posters appear out of the woodwork with the same agenda. Whether you like it or not there is a debate underway COUNTY WIDE. Mullane deserved what criticism he got for some of his articles.
I do not have an anti East Waterford agenda. You dont even know where I live.

culbaire wrote: »

You are a new poster whose raison d'etre is to try and squash criticism of Derek McGrath. In one sided games some players can shine in adversity. Not as simple as you imply!

culbaire wrote: »

For an allegedly Tipperary man, you seem to have an inordinate interest in Waterford GAA matters. I rightly criticised John Mullane for continuously putting pressure on the Waterford team in his newspaper column. Glad to see you have been reading up on my posts. You are obviously a De La Salle supporter.

culbaire, these are three posts in the last page or so that you have basically attacked other posters based on either their location or their number of posts in the forum.
Consider this your final warning. You are free to have your views on the Waterford manager and you are free to debate these views in a mature manner (which is not what you have been doing). But you are not free to attack other posters for their opinions. Anyone is welcome to post their opinions on this thread and it is not up to you to try and stop people from posting just because they are new or not from Waterford. So cut it out. Any more of this and it will escalate to bans.
And to pre-empt the inevitable, I am not trying to shut down criticism of McGrath. I don't give two hoots about the Waterford manager. It's the disruptive posting that I am trying to shut down.
Do NOT respond to this post on thread or I will ban you. If you require clarification, PM me or one of the other mods.

tommylad1212

football not for two weeks

robopaddy2

So the man who was lucky enough to witness the great Waterford players from the 50s and 60 is now on the verge of getting banned from boards.ie. Where did it all go wrong? lol

hurler on de ditch

The blue blaa wrote: »

Derek is gone after this season 100% he is not staying on.


Can i ask those of you, who will be delighted to see Derek gone to show your true colours and name WHO YOU BELIEVE should be his successor??
No fairytales please remember the County boards financial difficulties when choosing please..

Stevie Wonder

robopaddy2

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

The blue blaa wrote: »

Derek is gone after this season 100% he is not staying on.


Can i ask those of you, who will be delighted to see Derek gone to show your true colours and name WHO YOU BELIEVE should be his successor??
No fairytales please remember the County boards financial difficulties when choosing please..

Stevie Wonder

If the u21s perform well this year, Sean Power will have done more than McGrath had ever done to merit a shot at it. But I do believe he'd need a strong backroom team with him as a good manager does not necessarily mean a strong coach or tactician.

The blue blaa

robopaddy2 wrote: »

If the u21s perform well this year, Sean Power will have done more than McGrath had ever done to merit a shot at it. But I do believe he'd need a strong backroom team with him as a good manager does not necessarily mean a strong coach or tactician.

Robopaddy2 I agree with you Sean Power has done more than anyone in the county to deserve a chance however the thing that suprises me most is why his own club Mount Sion have never approached him to try an kick start a much needed revival considering what he has achieved.

It can also be argued that the majority of his U21 team last year were all involved in the senior setup hence he hadnt to coach them as such.
I dont believe Paul Flynn & Eoin Kelly are the men to coach a senior county team in a full season, the cameo role of an U21 season is a massive difference to senior season.

I dont know of anyone within the county who could bring us on any further skill wise. Tactically we all know we need to be more attacking.

I wonder would maybe Paddy Mullaly be the man to approach?

PTH2009

The blue blaa wrote: »

Robopaddy2 I agree with you Sean Power has done more than anyone in the county to deserve a chance however the thing that suprises me most is why his own club Mount Sion have never approached him to try an kick start a much needed revival considering what he has achieved.

It can also be argued that the majority of his U21 team last year were all involved in the senior setup hence he hadnt to coach them as such.
I dont believe Paul Flynn & Eoin Kelly are the men to coach a senior county team in a full season, the cameo role of an U21 season is a massive difference to senior season.

I dont know of anyone within the county who could bring us on any further skill wise. Tactically we all know we need to be more attacking.

I wonder would maybe Paddy Mullaly be the man to approach?

Would Dj Carey be worth a shot or is he waiting for Cody to leave Kilkenny ??

tommylad1212

PTH2009 wrote: »

Would Dj Carey be worth a shot or is he waiting for Cody to leave Kilkenny ??

Where did paddy mullaley come out of ? What teams has he been managing?

danganabu

tommylad1212 wrote: »

Where did paddy mullaley come out of ? What teams has he been managing?

Kilkenny Camogie I think most recently and was involved with Waterford IT and some point where is perhaps he crossed paths with the blue blaa??

The blue blaa

tommylad1212 wrote: »

Where did paddy mullaley come out of ? What teams has he been managing?

Apologies i meant Tom Mullally from Glenmore.
He was involved with Clara & Mount Leinster and guided them to great success in fairness

The blue blaa

danganabu wrote: »

Kilkenny Camogie I think most recently and was involved with Waterford IT and some point where is perhaps he crossed paths with the blue blaa??

Haha Danganabu i am Paddy lol.
No apologies i gave wrong brother there lads.

danganabu

The blue blaa wrote: »

Haha Danganabu i am Paddy lol.
No apologies i gave wrong brother there lads.

They are actually brothers AFAIK so maybe get them on a joint ticket

The blue blaa

danganabu wrote: »

They are actually brothers AFAIK so maybe get them on a joint ticket

Culbaire might do a bit of 1950s ground hurling with the lads also.

Lad's we could be onto a winner here someone ring Sean Power fast..

Deise_2012

Sean Power definitely not good enough to get the Senior manager job. Give em a year or two with a senior hurling club and see how he gets on.
He has done a good job, but lads come on that pool of players he was able to select from was unbelievable.

The blue blaa

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Sean Power definitely not good enough to get the Senior manager job. Give em a year or two with a senior hurling club and see how he gets on.
He has done a good job, but lads come on that pool of players he was able to select from was unbelievable.

Nobody doubting ya there.. read my original message i agree with ya

deiseach

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Sean Power definitely not good enough to get the Senior manager job. Give em a year or two with a senior hurling club and see how he gets on.
He has done a good job, but lads come on that pool of players he was able to select from was unbelievable.

*sigh* We'll be telling our grandchildren of the Waterford team that boxed the ears off everyone they encountered. Good times.

Deise_2012

I'm not saying that they boxed the ears off everyone. In fact that's a reason why I'd be reluctant to give Sean Power the managers job. They were beaten twice in 2013. They were lucky to have gotten out of jail twice.

PTH2009

Senior hurling championship
DLS 4-20- Dungarvan 3-17

Western intermediate championship
Ballysaggert 2-18- Stradbally 0-12

robopaddy2

Lads what about Ken McGrath. Served as selector with Waterford and has managed Mt Sion, but his illness kind of stifled his coaching career.

The blue blaa

PTH2009 wrote: »

Senior hurling championship
DLS 4-20- Dungarvan 3-17

Western intermediate championship
Ballysaggert 2-18- Stradbally 0-12

Some scoring in the Senior match according to Twitter Shane Ryan was unstoppable

deiseach

Deise_2012 wrote: »

I'm not saying that they boxed the ears off everyone. In fact that's a reason why I'd be reluctant to give Sean Power the managers job. They were beaten twice in 2013. They were lucky to have gotten out of jail twice.

I'm talking about last year's Under-21's. I make no comment on anyone's managerial skills, just reflecting on how great it all was.

JesusRef

My god some scoring in the Dungarvan DLS Game...

Deiseen

Talented pool of players or not, he should be given the chance to manage to senior hurlers.

It wasn't too long ago that Peter Queely, John mullane and Tony Browne managed a talented under 21 side and look what happened there.

It might work out, it might not but he should be given the chance at the very least.