Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Danjamin1

Danbo! wrote: »

I think just removing the lines would help to be honest. Motorists feel if they're in their lane and I'm in mine there's no issue.

I noticed too they painted new lines on the awful cycle track on Cyprus grove road in the last week. Except they didn't repaint the yield signs so those unfamiliar won't know to yield at every junction. On one stretch where the grass verge is reclaiming the cycle track, they only painted the line on one side, rather than pulling back the grass and doing it right.

I'd love to know who in SDCC is making these decisions. Someone purposefully decided to repaint the lines but not the junction markings. It's bizarre. Just means those avoiding the track will likely get grief as it's now more clear to motorists.

I had someone honking at me and pointing to the path along this route on the cycle home this evening. They held back & gave me space when overtaking but hit the horn a few times and gesticulated towards the path as they passed. Very annoying.

Chuchote

Danjamin1 wrote: »

I had someone honking at me and pointing to the path along this route on the cycle home this evening. They held back & gave me space when overtaking but hit the horn a few times and gesticulated towards the path as they passed. Very annoying.

Also not very legal. A car horn isn't for bullying other road users; it's for warning of danger.

Annie get your Run

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Just for anyone who's not aware, the Stayin Alive at 1.5 movement is largely down to one man, who works his ass off on an entirely voluntary basis and has achieved a huge amount. I just wouldn't want anyone to be left with the impression that the lack of backpack covers is down to someone being lazy.

I never said that, I was just explaining why the jersey (which I think is great) wouldn't be any use to me.

Chuchote

Danbo! wrote: »

Two close passes in a row this evening in templeogue, same spot as a previous video in the thread. First few cars are prime example of how you should give space.

The white car wasnt terrible, but right on the line and felt close. The BMW passed on the solid white line and moved back in when he saw oncoming traffic. I'm just glad I avoided the manhole by going left of it, instead of right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxa0IKxWk2o

Would it be worth holding occasional workshops on a Saturday when local people are likely to be walking there, talking about how dangerous the road is when you're on a bike and showing this video?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Annie get your Run wrote: »

I wear a backpack commuting so the jersey wouldn't be any good. I did ask them if they'd consider making backpack covers but they said no.

I got some backpack covers from the RSA a couple of years back if that helps.

plodder

I was driving this morning and a young lad on his way to school on the bike, took a sudden right turn, just in front of me, without signaling. There was no real danger as the road has significant traffic calming, but the lack of discipline from school kids is a worry.

Same area yesterday (Griffith ave), when I was on the bike, a mother did a full u-turn right in front of me. I had to stop to let her finish it. It looked like she had some condition preventing her from turning her head, so intent was she, to avoid eye contact

cython

Charli Loose Snowball wrote: »

I got some backpack covers from the RSA a couple of years back if that helps.

Poster already has one of them, but they were more specifically looking for Staying Alive at 1.5/passing distance "branded" ones, as far as I understood:

Annie get your Run wrote: »

I wrote on the back of my RSA bag cover this morning the words 'Please pass safely' drew an arrow and put 1.5M over it, I've been meaning to get something done up in a printers but never get around to it. Amazingly I didn't have one close pass on my way to work! Will be very interested to see if it works this evening too. Must order a few more of those and do them up properly!

Chuchote

plodder wrote: »

I was driving this morning and a young lad on his way to school on the bike, took a sudden right turn, just in front of me, without signaling. There was no real danger as the road has significant traffic calming, but the lack of discipline from school kids is a worry.

Same area yesterday (Griffith ave), when I was on the bike, a mother did a full u-turn right in front of me. I had to stop to let her finish it. It looked like she had some condition preventing her from turning her head, so intent was she, to avoid eye contact

A shout of CAREFUL NOW!! may help!

CramCycle

On an opposite note, coming through Shankhill this morning, I seen a school kid on a green MTB with great road awareness. Coming over the bump on one side of the town he recognised that cars have a habit of overtaking without clear sight ahead, so he hoped up on the path until he crested the hill and then hopped down again when the road was clear.

Sensible cycling born out of intelligence rather than rules. I dare say, if all road users had as much observation and self preservation as this kid, we would all be grand. He also stopped at lights and gave way at junctions, so he wasn't just doing what he thought was safe, he was for the most part, except where he felt it unsafe from experience (and probably right), although as a kidm, he would probably recieve more leeway than an adult.

Chiparus

Cycling on the Tramore road today , coming up to a roundabout, take the turn right/straight ahead lane , car tries to overtake me within 5 meters of the yield point, when she cannot, beeps me out of it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJNurNrNMEo

amcalester

Chiparus wrote: »

Cycling on the Tramore road today , coming up to a roundabout, take the turn right/straight ahead lane , car tries to overtake me within 5 meters of the yield point, when she cannot, beeps me out of it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJNurNrNMEo

Hate to be that guy, and I can't see the road layout ahead or if you signaled but you looked to be in the turn left lane.

Can you move to the right earlier and take the lane?

De Bhál

Chiparus wrote: »

Cycling on the Tramore road today , coming up to a roundabout, take the turn right/straight ahead lane , car tries to overtake me within 5 meters of the yield point, when she cannot, beeps me out of it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJNurNrNMEo

you're in the wrong lane, you need to be more to your right.

Chuchote

De Bhál wrote: »

you're in the wrong lane, you need to be more to your right.

You think the driver would be less beepy if the person on a bike was taking the lane?

randomname2005

De Bhál wrote: »

you're in the wrong lane, you need to be more to your right.

When I was being taught to cycle, back in the day, I was told to position myself just to the left of the line (when going around the roundabout and there were two lanes on approach). I can't remember the reasoning why there and not in the middle of the lane (or if I even asked why). I wonder if the poster was taught the same?

Pinch Flat

Coach on the quays this morning, KY registered private reg. I headed up to the advance box at the bridge just before the four courts to turn tight up to Christchurch.

Coach driver had other ideas - he swung around me, breaking a red light and cutting across me to get onto the bridge. Across a pedestrian crossing with a green man. His window was down, so I commended him on his d!ckish driving at the next red.

AlanG

Pinch Flat wrote: »

There's something ironic about taking a lecture in road safety from a taxi man. they have zero respect for other road users, especially cyclists.

Is it just foreign taxi men you are tarring with that scatter gun or all taxi men. What about the women driving taxis? Like all road users some are good and some are bad. That statement is as bad as the people who are constantly on the radio saying cyclists have no respect for pedestrians.

magicbastarder

i bet he appreciated that.

quietsailor

The video YOU (tramore road )put up shows you taking the left lane and then switching to the right hand one. If anyone did that to me, car truck, motorbike or push bike I'd beep at ye.

The fault is completely on you and not the car.

Chuchote

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Coach on the quays this morning, KY registered private reg. I headed up to the advance box at the bridge just before the four courts to turn tight up to Christchurch.

Coach driver had other ideas - he swung around me, breaking a red light and cutting across me to get onto the bridge. Across a pedestrian crossing with a green man. His window was down, so I commended him on his d!ckish driving at the next red.

Last time I went through that junction (cycling home from Heuston Station, mid-afternoon) a car did the same thing: I signalled right and was making a classic right turn when some diccardos in a boy car swung around inside and directly in front of me. I shouted "FOOL!" before I could stop myself.

AlanG

Somedude9 wrote: »

Arrogant, ignorant pricks a lot of them are. Sure aren't a third of them said to be convicted criminals?

Is that cyclists your moronic and uninformed statement is about, it certainly doesn't apply to all taxi men?

BoardsMember

Chuchote wrote: »

You think the driver would be less beepy if the person on a bike was taking the lane?

Hard to know, would only be guesswork.

Based on the video posted it looks like the cyclist was hesitant/late to move into the right lane, and when they did it was not very convincing, partly because the car was up their ass, but that would not have happened if they were looking to move towards the centre line of the road when 2 lanes came into play.

Pinch Flat

BoardsMember wrote: »

Hard to know, would only be guesswork.

Based on the video posted it looks like the cyclist was hesitant/late to move into the right lane, and when they did it was not very convincing, partly because the car was up their ass, but that would not have happened if they were looking to move towards the centre line of the road when 2 lanes came into play.

What you can't see in the video is if the cyclist was signalling his intentions or not.

BoardsMember

Pinch Flat wrote: »

What you can't see in the video is if the cyclist was signalling his intentions or not.

Agreed, but that doesn't take away from my observation, and that they should have taken the lane earlier.

Danbo!

Pinch Flat wrote: »

What you can't see in the video is if the cyclist was signalling his intentions or not.

Unfortunately it doesn't really matter. Yes it's a pain in the ass when you signal and cars continue to overtake, but sticking your hand out doesn't mean you have right of way, especially when changin

Pinch Flat

Danbo! wrote: »

Unfortunately it doesn't really matter. Yes it's a pain in the ass when you signal and cars continue to overtake, but sticking your hand out doesn't mean you have right of way, especially when changin

yeah, no I get that. But lets say he was signalling 30 meters before the junction. Car had plenty of time.

josip

quietsailor wrote: »

The video YOU (tramore road )put up shows you taking the left lane and then switching to the right hand one. If anyone did that to me, car truck, motorbike or push bike I'd beep at ye.

The fault is completely on you and not the car.

Maybe you can look at the video again?

The car driver had made up their mind they were going to overtake at all costs and were already over the continuous white line while it was still a single lane.


Classic case of must overtake

De Bhál

Chuchote wrote: »

You think the driver would be less beepy if the person on a bike was taking the lane?

yes I do. Car drivers are in the most part are fine once you look back at them and signal your intentions and then take the lane. I've been cycling in Dublin since 2000 and that's my experience. Signal your intentions clearly and then take the lane.

In this case the cyclist was moving into the lane at the wrong time and was leaving the driver in doubt as to what was going on. I doubt (maybe naively) that the driver would try and shoot up on their right if the arm was out.

Of course in saying all that, maybe the arm was out and the driver was an ass.

papu

Coming down D'olier street , had a taxi man pull right across me , no looking , no indicating, no remorse. He would not say sorry for his actions.

check_six

Out on the roads it becomes necessary to stereotype other road users just so you can try and predict their movements. Regularly you can be surprised and delighted by someone being careful and considerate, but a hell of a lot of the time your negative stereotype prediction will come through with crushing inevitability.

You may already have some stereotypical road users coming to mind already. What do you think when you see any of the following?
- a 4x4 in an urban environment
- a hatchback with tinted windows, big exhaust, and fins everywhere
- a large German saloon car
- an Aircoach
- a taxi

There are certain behaviours demonstrated by *some* of the operators of these vehicles that are common enough to be worth assuming *will* happen if you spot any one of them in the wild. When the predicted behaviour doesn't happen, you breathe a sigh of relief and get on with your day. When the predicted behaviour *does* happen you are already two steps ahead.

This morning I stopped behind a taxi a few cars back from a red light at a junction. My lads asked why I had stopped short and I pointed at the taxi. There was no indicator lit up, but I was playing the odds of my stereotype. Sure enough, the lights changed, the taxi swung left without warning or looking, but we were ahead of the game and out of harms way.

I'm not going to say that all taxi drivers are wild-eyed maniacs out on the road. They're not, but I am going to bear certain prejudices in the forefront of my mind when I'm cycling in traffic.

Danbo!

Look at this footage from the AA from this morning. Almost 99% sure this person is texting or on their phone, you dont just hit a parked like that if paying attention. Across the road, the white car has to go for the footpath to avoid, with a couple of cyclists behind and pedestrian on the footpath.

This is the type of bull**** selfish inattentive driving that will catch out even the most cautious and law-abiding cyclist.

https://twitter.com/aaroadwatch/status/869873890960396288