Power Box

brownswiss

Nugent power box is being advertised quite a bit cheaper than competitors. Is it as good ?

kay 9

brownswiss wrote: »

Nugent power box is being advertised quite a bit cheaper than competitors. Is it as good ?

Great box. Fleming is a lighter box. Nugent gear is generally top class.

brownswiss

Gormley 6 ' is €720 and the Nugent 6 ' is €850. Have any of you seen the Gormley box? How do they compare ?.. Thanks

leoch

I bought a new one of a guy on donedeal makes them it's red with yellow ram heavy well made box but only tips about 40 45 degrees and it's a hoor to get dung or the likes out of it do other boxes tip any steeper or would a powered top link help

tanko

leoch wrote: »

I bought a new one of a guy on donedeal makes them it's red with yellow ram heavy well made box but only tips about 40 45 degrees and it's a hoor to get dung or the likes out of it do other boxes tip any steeper or would a powered top link help

Have a Fleming one here, hydraulic top link on the tractor is a good help for emptying them alrite.
Some dung has magnetic qualities tho, wont come out even if the box was upside down.

croot

leoch wrote: »

I bought a new one of a guy on donedeal makes them it's red with yellow ram heavy well made box but only tips about 40 45 degrees and it's a hoor to get dung or the likes out of it do other boxes tip any steeper or would a powered top link help

I have a cashel one and it tips about the same. I don't have a hydraulic top link so I usually have top link out to last and this helps tip it more

memorystick

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread. Thinking of buying a Nugent power box. Just wondering how effective they are as a weight when full of sand or 804. Trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

bogman_bass

I have a woods box and it will tip up to 70 degrees by my guess. The only thing i’ve Had trouble emptying out if it was snow

Aravo

Make a weight if you can. When you want the weight out to use the box it will be a pain afterwards putting material back in when you need the weight. On labour saving and general guntering and I'm no expert.
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satstheway

Box full is a good weight but if ur in tight corners it has to be watched. Better with a dedicated weight tucked in

C0N0R

We filled a tyre full of concrete and would put that in the box as a weight, found it handy as could drop it off and pick it up anywhere

memorystick

satstheway wrote: »

Box full is a good weight but if ur in tight corners it has to be watched. Better with a dedicated weight tucked in

Well they are fairly tidy but I see your point. Have you a single or double ram? Would 6ft be perfect?

Hagimalone

curious what are you trying to counter weight? on what size tractor?

satstheway

memorystick wrote: »

Well they are fairly tidy but I see your point. Have you a single or double ram? Would 6ft be perfect?

We have a single ram Fleming since 2002. Cant see the need for a double ram I can lift 2 round bales in it 😵.
Its 7 foot. Try to get 1 as wide as the tractor for levelling or filling against a wall. If the tractor can lift it that is.

memorystick

Hagimalone wrote: »

curious what are you trying to counter weight? on what size tractor?

I’ve a handy John Deere with loader but I need a weight on the back when at bales. I’ve no transport box and a weight is very cumbersome when you need to take it on or off. A power box with 804 or a barrel of concrete would be handier. Going fencing or whatever. Empty stuff refill

Aravo

If you have a bucket on the loader, will the power box be used that much.

memorystick

Aravo wrote: »

If you have a bucket on the loader, will the power box be used that much.

I suppose. They’re a handy yolk to have.

Base price

memorystick wrote: »

I suppose. They’re a handy yolk to have.

We have a nugent power box here and it is the most used implement on the farm. It's about 15 y/o and has seen lots of abuse over the years. We had to weld in a steel strip along the under edge of the lip to strengthen it a few years ago as it was getting worn cleaning out sheds, boxing stone etc.

As satstheway said get one the width of the tractor and it will leave a clean finish against the wall if your cleaning out sheds.

memorystick

Thanks for the advice. Going to go with the Nugent 6 ft 6. The 7 ft is 4 inches wider than the tractor. It might be that little more awkward around the feeding passage and yard.

6 inches mightn’t seem a lot but if it’s in the way it could do shocking harm.

Base price

memorystick wrote: »

Thanks for the advice. Going to go with the Nugent 6 ft 6. The 7 ft is 4 inches wider than the tractor. It might be that little more awkward around the feeding passage and yard.

6 inches mightn’t seem a lot but if used properly it’s all a man needs.

DOH, width is more important

memorystick

What’s the Dowd box like?

https://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/dowd-powerboxs-6ft-6ft6-7ft-8ft/21103013

memorystick

€950 for 6 foot and €1200 for 7. Nugent. There a dear yolk. 6 foot mightn’t be as awkward around the yard.

Bass Reeves

memorystick wrote: »

€950 for 6 foot and €1200 for 7. Nugent. There a dear yolk. 6 foot mightn’t be as awkward around the yard.

Get it that it is as wide as the back wheels of the tractor of possible.

ruwithme

memorystick wrote: »

What’s the Dowd box like?

https://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/dowd-powerboxs-6ft-6ft6-7ft-8ft/21103013

Bottom of the ram looks like it's positioned very far out from the box and the ram overall looks quite long. leaving the frame high.obviously has to be like that if using that length of ram.

just doesn't look right too me anyway.
mc kenna box here. very well made .

martins garage in cavan sell them memory if looking for a price.

memorystick

ruwithme wrote: »

Bottom of the ram looks like it's positioned very far out from the box and the ram overall looks quite long. leaving the frame high.obviously has to be like that if using that length of ram.

just doesn't look right too me anyway.
mc kenna box here. very well made .

martins garage in cavan sell them memory if looking for a price.

Going with Nugent. €50 of a difference between
Carey and Deering. Deering nearer but dearer. Don’t want 7 foot as I think it’s a little wide for shed when using loader.

Robson99

Great piece of machinery.
Only issue i have is getting it high enough for ****e to come out of it when tipping

brownswiss

Are any of you using a power box on old small tractors ?

I have a 6' box on a 2 wheel drive Zetor 7711. Delighted that I bought the power box but you need to be careful putting it on. Someone was adjusting mine to get the top link on and got caught with the frame. They should have been standing in the box and not between it and the tractor but they could not reach and did not think. They will not do it again but are lucky to have gotten a second chance....Putting on the top link on the old box was never an issue as it was closer to the tractor and a much lower frame

Red Sheds

I use a 7 foot Malone box on a MF 185. I used to have the same issues putting it on as you with the top link. Now I just put in the hoses first and can use the ram to control it when putting in the toplink, at least no one will get crushed. Its a very heavy box on the tractor even when empty and really I should have weights on the front when it has a full load on, often times have to drive slowly with the lift low so the box is almost touching the ground to keep the front down. Great tool though and big benefit is its wider than the tractor. I wouldn't have got one so wide it only it came up secondhand, but very glad I got he wide one now.

memorystick

I’ve a Nugent 7 foot ordered for over 2 years. My patience is beginning to run out. I see a woods one for sale. Are they as good? How about Eurospec or Multec? Based in the North? I wouldn’t bother with Fleming.

satstheway

I wouldn't fault the fleming. This is a 7' single ram. It's put some lorry loads of drainage stone through it and it can easily take 2 round bales.

It hasn't gotten an easy life but I always leave it set on a block tilting down so water runs off

satstheway

She's 20 this year

satstheway

9935452

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118679629#Comment_118679629

I bought a twin ram 7ft nugent 6or 7 years ago. It did take few months to arrive as it was a twin ram. ,rams on the nugent are small compared to other makes and the extra ram spreads the stresses better and gives more breakout force.

That said i wouldnt be waiting 2 years for it. Next in line would have been a woods power box. They have a very good rep and are built strong.

I would avoid the fleming as they seem to have gone light in the last 10 years. Putting the nugent next to a fleming, the nugent is definately built heavier and braced better too.

The paint on the modern flemings is quite poor too. A neighbour has a fleming and a lot of paint has come off it.

I also remember a thread on farming forum where fleming asked for feedback for their website, and what they got was a load of complaints about poor paint amongst others .

memorystick

Thanks for all of the comments. I bought a woods on Thursday. Should be delivered next week.

hopeso

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118698836#Comment_118698836

A fine box, with a great tipping angle... Well wear!

Sugarbowl

I’m in the market for a new transport box. Had a Gibney and have years done with it. Any recommendations? My co op has Fleming boxes but don’t know if they have the reputation that they used to.

hopeso

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120527800#Comment_120527800

Is it just a standard transport box? A lot of the co ops seem to stock Fleming. I haven't examined one close up, but I imagine they'd be middle of the road. I think Watson would probably be a good quality box....

Sugarbowl

Yeah what we had was just the standard kind but I suppose if buying new I should get a link box with the ram. Be a lot handier for tipping.

Itryhard

Power box is in a different league to link box

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118695356#Comment_118695356

I have a Mchale here bought it secondhand at end of the noughties.

Often when farmers are on about this piece of equipment being stronger or heavier than another make ( I am not just talking about power boxes but bale spikes, handlers even cattle trailers) the question is what do you want to break the implement or the tractor/machine.

Some of the implement's I see would see an arm or loader on a tractor break rather than them

Really interesting one is the way the Tuffmac cattle trailers are disappearing off the road. It seems they are too heavy to pull loaded

9935452

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120561695#Comment_120561695

For me its the fact that tractors are getting bigger and bigger. The power box that was being used on a mf165 isnt strong enough for a tm140.

You lend it to a neighbour who hasnt a clue and it comes back warped or broken .

Interestingly enough i made a double bale handler with paddles recently enough that would be stronger than most on the market, 10mm wall thickness box iron.

It was designed for the smaller tractor. It carries the bale as close to the tractor as possible. End result is we have used it on a 80hp 2wd crystal drawing fusion bales, with 250kg on the front .

The likes of the bales are getting heavier and heavier. Bale handlers and spikes have had to be made stronger. The tractors that were used before arent as suitable anymore for the work