The Walking Dead | Season 7 | Episode 12 | Say Yes [AMC] [SPOILERS]

NUTZZ

The Walking Dead - Season 7

Episode 12 - "Say Yes"

Airdate - March 5th on AMC at 9/8c | March 6th on FOX UK at 9PM

The group scavenges for supplies; back in Alexandria, someone must make a morally challenging decision.

Promo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWRxrLeO34c

Sneak Peek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQWTZWJMcus

Sneak Peek 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxq_B734zbE

arayess

2

poor episode

zombies have become a joke aspect now portrayed with little threat or menace

The Talking Bread

Filler episode apparently. You wouldn't think they need one of those with near 100 or so main characters at the moment!!

John_D80

7

A good episode. Miles better than the tripe that has made up the rest of this season so far.

The Talking Bread

John_D80 wrote: »

A good episode. Miles better than the tripe that has made up the rest of this season so far.

The first episode was brilliant, the episode with Darryl and Dwight was very good and last week episodewith Eugene and Dwight decent as well to be fair.

tvnutz

This has been quite a poor season overall, probably the worst actually. On another note, was it just me or was the deer really really bad CGI!?

Lone Stone

4

yay another fake out death scene woop so amazing i was so thrilled my heart nearly exploded in my chest ow wait no.. no it didnt. Sigh i really dont know why they do this crap. Besides that was better than last week but that Ow no rick is dead scene just made me want to send hate mail to the show runner.

Staplor

5

tvnutz wrote: »

This has been quite a poor season overall, probably the worst actually. On another note, was it just me or was the deer really really bad CGI!?

I was thinking this too, but then thought that maybe the show makers wanted a bright shiny deer representing hope to be ripped to pieces by the zombies. Or maybe it was just ****ty CGI.

5starpool

3

Boring.

Magically find a funfair that had lots of soldiers in it that no one had found which gives them guns and loads of supplies. Some fake peril that was never actually for a second going to be real. Stupid dump people again, Rosita behaving like a stroppy teenager which threatens to predictably derail the whole plan just when they have a foothold to making it happen in an organised fashion.

The whole thing is moving far too slowly.

FortuneChip

So Rosita has now decided to shoot for All Time Biggest Moron!

Her impassioned speech about if she had a gun, how Spencer etc would be alive.
Eh, you had a gun, and you shot a baseball bat with it.

Plus, her big plans to go solo (ok +1) to kill Negan... It made sense when Rick was all docile but he's not now. Surely it's worth waiting that extra couple of episodes until Rick gets more guns and they can make a proper go of it?

Yester

4

Found it to be very slow overall. Now that I have started watching Z Nation I don't know if I will be able to cope with the pace of TWD. (of course I will, I'm an addict)

Ally Dick

'Bendy Knees'

Time to axe the show. It's run it's course. Getting very very boring. Kill Negan and let them all walk off into the sunset

DoozerT6

Genuine question - would those guns even work after a couple of years out in the elements (the fairground) like that?

Would love to know the story behind the walkers with their hands bound that went for the deer.

John_D80

7

DoozerT6 wrote: »

Genuine question - would those guns even work after a couple of years out in the elements (the fairground) like that?
.

Very good point.

They would need some major TLC but for the most part, yes they would still work after a good cleaning and oiling.

Weapons like shotguns and revolvers would be easiest to return to full working order as they don't have so many moving parts as the likes of automatic rifles and pistols.

hadepsx

Jesus Christ. WTF has gone wrong with this show. Used to be I couldn't take my eyes away from it, now I barely look up. Just have it on in the background. This episode was very slapstick IMO, in the scenes with Rick especially. Very weird to see. And as for Thelma and Louise at the end, fecking gob****es.

The Talking Bread

Lone Stone wrote: »

yay another fake out death scene woop so amazing i was so thrilled my heart nearly exploded in my chest ow wait no.. no it didnt. Sigh i really dont know why they do this crap. Besides that was better than last week but that Ow no rick is dead scene just made me want to send hate mail to the show runner.

I don't think it was meant to be a "fake out death scene" at all to be honest. The episode was mainly to solidify the relationship between Rick and Michonne, as it hasn't been concentrated on before this so the scene was more of a "Michonne's reaction to thinking Rick is dead scene", to really push their emotional bond on the audience.
The producers aren't stupid enough (insert cliche joke here!) to actually think the majority of the audience would think Rick might die.

DoozerT6

I wonder what the overall plan is for Rosita and Sasha's characters....considering Sonequa Martin-Green has a lead role in a new Star Trek tv show,and Christian Serratos is pregnant IRL. The news of her pregnancy only broke this week, and we have known for a while now that Sonequa has this new role. Perfect timing to pair the two of them up and have the audience wonder what will happen to both characters...Perfect season finale methinks

DakarVert

WORST DEER EVER!


Christ on a show like TWD with the budget they have surely they could have done better? Even a dog with antlers would have been more realistic.

Zero-Cool

2

Chriiiiiiiiiist that was ****ing boring, the definition of filler. There's no chemistry between Rick and Michonne, that ep was just 'look guys, they really love each other'. I don't mind a slow pace show but there's no need for filler shyte like this. I gave it a 3, wish I gave it lower instead.

Scraggs

I spent the weekend rewatching season 7 and it was definitely much better binge watching than waiting week to week. I think I'll keep season 8 to watch in one go (as if!)
This episode I actually really enjoyed despite being an obvious filler, coz it gave a nice insight into Rick and Michonne as a couple. I always thought 'Richonne' felt a bit forced and could never really get behind it until this episode. Michonnes reaction to Ricks fake death actually made another almost not quite death ok for me, I know a lot of people won't agree lol
I think Jadis and the Junkyard people are going to be an interesting group and I hope we get to know more about them.
As for Rosita.... well she's going to f*** the whole plan up isn't she. So annoying!

Did anyone else see the RTE on the food packaging and think it looked like an old RTE logo?

The Talking Bread

5

The Talking Bread wrote: »

I don't think it was meant to be a "fake out death scene" at all to be honest. The episode was mainly to solidify the relationship between Rick and Michonne, as it hasn't been concentrated on before this so the scene was more of a "Michonne's reaction to thinking Rick is dead scene", to really push their emotional bond on the audience.
The producers aren't stupid enough (insert cliche joke here!) to actually think the majority of the audience would think Rick might die.

Completely agree with all of that. Ep was like a homage to Rick and Michonnes relationship using typical romantic movie settings. Picnics and funfair , Michonne and the carnival game, talking about their future. Which of course were all completely atypical because of the whole zombie apocalypse thing!

The Talking Bread

The Talking Bread wrote: »

I don't think it was meant to be a "fake out death scene" at all to be honest. The episode was mainly to solidify the relationship between Rick and Michonne, as it hasn't been concentrated on before this so the scene was more of a "Michonne's reaction to thinking Rick is dead scene", to really push their emotional bond on the audience.
The producers aren't stupid enough (insert cliche joke here!) to actually think the majority of the audience would think Rick might die.

Was actually hoping Michonne would get killed before Rick came back out, since it was so obvious he didn't die. Oh well.

The Talking Bread

Basil3 wrote: »

Was actually hoping Michonne would get killed before Rick came back out, since it was so obvious he didn't die. Oh well.

Would be a pretty sh1t way to end her character. I envisage she will get one of the biggest death events in the series if she is ever killed off, not a crap filler episode death with only Rick there!.

Dirty Dingus McGee

The quality of the CGI on the deer during the fairground scene was so appalling bad that it actually distracted me from Ricks fall and took away from what was suppose to be a really tense moment.How can a TV show on a biog network get CGI so badly wrong I mean it was truly dreadful.

ebbsy

6

There was also no need to use the whole episode to find the guns. Half would have done.

Not a patch on last week's episode.

Fox Hound

4

Walking dead need to fire there CGI Guy!!!

D0NNELLY

2

Must be an injoke among the post production lads to have one muck cgi shot per episode.

Rick continually saying he wants to stay out for another couple of days way annoying. He doesn't miss his kids/feel responsible for their/his own safety? Laughing after falling through the roof before checking the room out for walkers.

Just unnecessarily sloppy writing.

I was waiting for them to jump into a vending van in the fairground and go full Zombieland.

sonofenoch

You wouldn't leave your toddler alone in the care of whoever for as long in a normal world as much as Rick does in a world full of people who'll either kill you or eat you

tvnutz

tvnutz wrote: »

This has been quite a poor season overall, probably the worst actually. On another note, was it just me or was the deer really really bad CGI!?

As someone who gave this show up a few seasons ago, this makes me happy in a bitter Scrooge kind of way.

The Talking Bread

Deleted User wrote: »

As someone who gave this show up a few seasons ago, this makes me happy in a bitter Scrooge kind of way.

Hence, why you are lurking around The Walking Dead forums.......:rolleyes:

stronglikebull

Fox Hound wrote: »

Walking dead need to fire there CGI Guy!!!

Brought to you by the same people that brought you that boat.

Rosita yoyos again. Rick being an idiot climbing a rickety old Ferris wheel, and for what? Oh no, Rick is dead. Oh wait, no he's not. At least it didn't go on for 6 months like it did with Glenn. Michone dropping her sword and standing there like a tool. After what, a couple of years in the apocalypse, and they're still all being idiots? There's no need to add this kind of stupid sh*t into it, the episode would have been good without it.

The Talking Bread

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Hence, why you are lurking around The Walking Dead forums.......:rolleyes:

Came across this post here: http://www.boards.ie/#tabs-thanks

The Talking Bread

Deleted User wrote: »

As someone who gave this show up a few seasons ago, this makes me happy in a bitter Scrooge kind of way.

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Hence, why you are lurking around The Walking Dead forums.......:rolleyes:

Deleted User wrote: »

Came across this post here: http://www.boards.ie/#tabs-thanks

If you haven't been watching it for a few seasons how come you watched Season 6, season 5 etc............ I am confused. Was someone hacking your Boards.ie account and commenting on almost all the episodes....?????

You do know we are only on Season 7, yeah?

Going into a thread gloating about giving up a ****ty TV show was never going to go down well :pac:

thegreengoblin

An atrocity of an episode. The very definition of filler.

The Rick and Michonne romance is fake as anything. There is zero chemistry between them, and it's actually making me start to dislike the characters.
So they just happen to stumble upon a load of walkers walking around with guns that still work just fine? Go away.

But the deer...christ almighty, what were they thinking? In years to come this season will be remembered most for two things: Negan's brutal double murder in the opener, and then a CGI deer that looked like a gif that they copied and pasted by mistake by an AMC intern into the show at the last minute.

The moment when Rick suddenly reappeared and threw Michonne her sword was utterly laughable. Toe curling stuff actually.

And then there's Rosita. A moaning, sulky, sour faced cow who should have been killed off instead of Abraham (bet they regret that one). Somebody please tell me we're not going to have a whole episode of her and Sasha next week?? I actually like Sasha but I reckon she'll bite the bullet soon while Rosita gets to keep on moaning her way through every episode.

The Mad Max gang... I don't even have it in me to say anything about them. They speak for themselves, terribly as it happens.

This has been by far the most frustrating season of Walking Dead as the material is there but it's been used atrociously by the writers. We may still get a really good episode or two out of the four that are left but that's the least this show should be doing.

I know I'm starting to sound like Mr Nice Guy here but I'm a huge fan of the show and I just want it to be great again.

The Talking Bread

Deleted User wrote: »

Going into a thread gloating about giving up a ****ty TV show was never going to go down well :pac:

Ha, your lies never get you anywhere!!!

The Talking Bread

There is just too many characters, groups, individual character plots and locations right now for it to please the average viewer.

Alexandria
Hilltop
Sanctuary
The Kingdom
Carol's Scary House
The Rubbish Dump
Oceanside
Then, of course, like this week there are the excursions.

Main and Main(ish) Characters:
Rick
Daryl
Maggie
Carl
Michonne,
Carol
Morgan
Sasha
Tara
Eugene
Rosita
Negan,
Fr. Gabriel
Aaron,]
Dwight
Jesus
Gregory
Enid,
Tobin (is he even still alive??)
Heath ( ditto)
Eric, (god, that fella is annoying)
Francine (is she still around??)
Dr Harlan
Sherry,
Simon, (unforgivingly underused)
Fat Joey
All the soldiers Negan has
Amber, Frankie and Tanya.
Ezekiel,
Benjamin,
Jerry,
Richard,
Daniel, .
Natania, from Oceanside.
Jadis, and her dump crew


I mean, that is a lot of characters who all will get lines and screentime. For that reason, it is hard to translate that onto screen without being really irritated!
I do like shows having lots of little sidecharacters but when it comes at the expense of the protagonists, it causes issues.

Im not as frustrated with the show at all as many but I can understand why others are.

uncleoswald

2

Awful episode. The only thing of note was Tara seemingly giving up the other camp. 'Richonne' has zero chemistry. When they are not been lovey dovey it is entirely possible to forget they are an item and when they are together they act totally out of character. Their reclessness in this episode was infuriating and made me hope Michonne would die just to remind Rick and the audience of the dangers of the world.

And the end can't come soon enough for the emo Mad Max group. How would such an odd group of people even find themselves in the apocalypse and decide, yep this is how we are going to act and talk from now on? The cannibal group I can get my head around, even the kingdom group, but this?

And Rosita, ugh. What makes her think if they had just killed Negan everything would be ok, that the much larger and heavier armed group wouldn't have just killed them all for taking out their leader? But whatever just go off on your pointless suicide mission.

Lone Stone

4

Deleted User wrote: »

Going into a thread gloating about giving up a ****ty TV show was never going to go down well :pac:

just block him the guy is a forum troll.

Besides that i think what we are at long last seeing is the huge glaring flaw in twd as a show it has no end game no over laping story to aim towards hence the show is literally just been repeating the same story arch with different faces for a while, i usually read the comics up the show season after the tv show ends, but even still i think they need to wrap this show up its narrative has become weak and it must be hard for the writers to come up stuff given the lack of direction outside of we got a new bad guy ricks gotta kill.

This has had no tension for me at all, like the farm rick and shane that had my heart pounding and that time he met some guys in the bar and a shoot out the same with the woodberry scenes for the most part excluding the terrible ending to that season, Negan is meant to be the big bad yet but he doesn't feel like it at all.

The Talking Bread

Lone Stone wrote: »

just block him the guy is a forum troll.

Besides that i think what we are at long last seeing is the huge glaring flaw in twd as a show it has no end game no over laping story to aim towards hence the show is literally just been repeating the same story arch with different faces for a while, i usually read the comics up the show season after the tv show ends, but even still i think they need to wrap this show up its narrative has become weak and it must be hard for the writers to come up stuff given the lack of direction outside of we got a new bad guy ricks gotta kill.

This has had no tension for me at all, like the farm rick and shane that had my heart pounding and that time he met some guys in the bar and a shoot out the same with the woodberry scenes for the most part excluding the terrible ending to that season, Negan is meant to be the big bad yet but he doesn't feel like it at all.

Seriously?? What is your f%cking problem.

Why are you calling me a forum troll.

Maybe logic alludes you but the poster said he gave the show up a few seasons ago and I just made a joke as he has been commenting on the show episodes threads all the time.

thegreengoblin

The Talking Bread wrote: »

There is just too many characters, groups, individual character plots and locations right now for it to please the average viewer.

Alexandria
Hilltop
Sanctuary
The Kingdom
Carol's Scary House
The Rubbish Dump
Oceanside
Then, of course, like this week there are the excursions.

Main and Main(ish) Characters:
Rick
Daryl
Maggie
Carl
Michonne,
Carol
Morgan
Sasha
Tara
Eugene
Rosita
Negan,
Fr. Gabriel
Aaron,]
Dwight
Jesus
Gregory
Enid,
Tobin (is he even still alive??)
Heath ( ditto)
Eric, (god, that fella is annoying)
Francine (is she still around??)
Dr Harlan
Sherry,
Simon, (unforgivingly underused)
Fat Joey (RIP)
All the soldiers Negan has
Amber, Frankie and Tanya.
Ezekiel,
Benjamin,
Jerry,
Richard,
Daniel, .
Natania, from Oceanside.
Jadis, and her dump crew


I mean, that is a lot of characters who all will get lines and screentime. For that reason, it is hard to translate that onto screen without being really irritated!
I do like shows having lots of little sidecharacters but when it comes at the expense of the protagonists, it causes issues.

Im not as frustrated with the show at all as many but I can understand why others are.

Fixed that for you :pac:

Mr E

Folks, keep it friendly please.

Decent enough episode, but the Walking Dead's issue is that there's far too many secondary characters that are sooo poorly defined. I can't remember what happened to slightly tubby possible lesbian, girl with stitch in her cheek, black lady who slept with ginger fella that died, and any of those people. Also the gang they have the deal with.. girl that talks odd is just annoying.

kunst nugget

uncleoswald wrote: »

'Richonne' has zero chemistry.

Is that the stuff Walter White used to poison people in Breaking Bad? That had loads of chemistry.

DoozerT6

Quick one - when Rick fell from the ferris wheel, where did the gunshot come from? Did his own gun go off, or....

AbitaTASS

6

CGI looks good to me. Don't know what yer talking about.

Scraggs

DoozerT6 wrote: »

Quick one - when Rick fell from the ferris wheel, where did the gunshot come from? Did his own gun go off, or....

A walker with a machine gun round his neck got stuck on something that caused the trigger to fire shots. (*rolleyes*)

Howard the Duck

5

The fact they don't find more guns is what annoys me the most. There are more guns then people in American and even the local police stations have an armory that a small country would be jealous of.

The petrol should be going bad by now and they all should be going around on push bikes blowing the heads off each other with grenade launchers.

I'm finding that there are few actual characters I like now. Eugene maybe and Daryl.

Howard the Duck

5

And another thing why can't the Bin People speak proper English!? It hasn't been that long since society collapsed. I could probably put up with it if Rick and the gang mentioned it

Howard the Duck

5

Howard the Duck wrote: »

And another thing why can't the Bin People speak proper English!? It hasn't been that long since society collapsed. I could probably put up with it if Rick and the gang mentioned it

Is it because they try to avoid confrontation and do a lot of lurking and watching so they've learned to use hand signals and minimal words?

DoozerT6

Howard the Duck wrote: »

And another thing why can't the Bin People speak proper English!? It hasn't been that long since society collapsed. I could probably put up with it if Rick and the gang mentioned it

This is driving me mad too. It's only been a couple of years ffs.