Could Madeleine McCann still be found?

roysh1

It's nearly 10 years since Madeleine disappeared... According to this article, investigators involved in the case, are working on an " “important” new tip."

Considering the amount of time that has passed, what's the likelihood that she'll be found?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/parents-madeleine-mccann-hope-new-9557742

CaptainR

roysh1 wrote: »

It's nearly 10 years since Madeleine disappeared... According to this article, investigators involved in the case, are working on an " “important” new tip."

Considering the amount of time that has passed, what's the likelihood that she'll be found?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/parents-madeleine-mccann-hope-new-9557742

I'd say you'd get better odds on Mozambique's GAA team winning the all Ireland than her being found.

Mouseslayer17

You'll have to ask Kate and jerry that one

Kimbot

I would say the poor girl is long dead at this stage

dreamers75

CaptainR wrote: »

I'd say you'd get better odds on Mozambique's GAA team winning the all Ireland than her being found.

Ummm about that

http://www.killereringaa.com/gallery/53878/Miscellaneous

GBX

Such a shame she disappeared but the parents should be culpable.

podgemonster

CaptainR wrote: »

I'd say you'd get better odds on Mozambique's GAA team winning the all Ireland than her being found.

Oh ye of little faith. Hon the Mozzies, tis our year!!!
Bring Sam home to Maputo!!

drunkmonkey

GBX wrote: »

Such a shame she disappeared but the parents should be culpable.

The first story I heard from a journalist friend when the story broke was the parents done it. The kids were giving sleeping sedatives so they wouldn't wake up while the parents were out.
I've kinda believed that's what happened all along since as I can't understand why you would go out leaving 2 normal kids alone it just doesn't make sense as there capable of anything.

Maybe someone here will blow that story out of the water for me.

BetsyEllen

I think it's doubtful but stranger things have happened.

However - let's just say that she was found alive and well.
I would imagine she would barely remember her previous life now. She would likely speak another language and have lived a life completely different to her siblings in England.

So how would that work, the police just whisk her away back to England and return her to her parents that she doesn't know anymore?

I don't think we'll ever know what happened to the poor girl and if her parents are the culprits.
I tend to think they're not, they made a huge mistake in leaving her so did indeed play a part and are guilty in that sense. But I don't think they killed her.

wakka12

I think chances of finding a missing child after 48 hours is something like 90% less..so Id say poor Madeleines chances of being found safe and well are pretty close to zero

Fred Swanson

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pilly

There was an 18 year old recently found in the US wasn't there? So nothing is beyond the realms of possibility I suppose.

I always had my doubts about the parents but I would never say 100% that someone is dead without proof.

DEFTLEFTHAND

CaptainR wrote: »

I'd say you'd get better odds on Mozambique's GAA team winning the all Ireland than her being found.

They're entered in the Lory Meagher this year.

donkeykong5

It was all over the news a couple of weeks ago about a girl who was stolen as a baby been found after 18 years. So yes there is still hope for that poor child. Just hope she is ok.

Omackeral

As soon as it blew up as international news, any would-be kidnapper would have killed and disposed of her straight away, as horrible as that sounds.

AudreyHepburn

As sad as it is, I honestly believe the poor little thing was gone not long after she was taken.

I highly she'll be found at this stage, although as others have said stranger things have happened.

Snakeweasel

Imagine if her mum and dad worked in a supermarket and factory, rather than being doctors. Do you think people would still say it was a mistake to leave the kids alone so they could go out with friends? Or would they just be called negligent parents who valued going on the piss with friends more than their kids safety? Not judging, just curious.......

A_smurf

With the amount of time that she has been missing for and no definite sighting of her in that time, it doesn't look like she will ever be found alive, sadly. Like most here I sure would love if I was wrong.

Omackeral

I remember the Europa League final a few years ago and the camera focused on a little girl in the crowd who looked very like Madeline. People were going a bit mad online over it. The game featured Benfica which would lend credence to the Portuguese connection and there was a striking resemblance.


Here's a screenshot




A side by side comparison

wakka12

Omackeral wrote: »

I remember the Europa League final a few years ago and the camera focused on a little girl in the crowd who looked very like Madeline. People were going a bit mad online over it. The game featured Benfica which would lend credence to the Portuguese connection and there was a striking resemblance.


Here's a screenshot




A side by side comparison

Madeline is not that distinctive looking apart form the eye colour, Ive seen probably hundreds of little girls who could pass for her throughout europe
And I know the girl is looking upwards which exposes the nostrils a bit more but her nose looks a lot more upturned than madeleines

Fred Swanson

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Mouseslayer17

If she turned up the gravy train would be over for the parents.
They've made millions off her

drunkmonkey

Snakeweasel wrote: »

Imagine if her mum and dad worked in a supermarket and factory, rather than being doctors. Do you think people would still say it was a mistake to leave the kids alone so they could go out with friends? Or would they just be called negligent parents who valued going on the piss with friends more than their kids safety? Not judging, just curious.......

Ask any parent do they think the kids were old enough to be left alone, I think you'll get pretty unanimous answers.

There occupation is irrelevant but they would know about drugs and dosages which makes the story I was told that bit more believable.

steddyeddy

I find it very unlikely that the Mcanns are telling the complete truth.

wakka12

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Ask any parent do they think the kids were old enough to be left alone, I think you'll get pretty unanimous answers.

There occupation is irrelevant but they would know about drugs and dosages which makes the story I was told that bit more believable.

It is not irrelevant, apart from the fact that the story would not be nearly as well known if they were a lower class family, the parents would have been seen in a much more different and guiltier light than Madelines parent's were, regardless of what police would have told the public I think most people would automatically assume it was gross negligence and manslughter if jacinta and anto had drugged their daughter before going out with their mates

donkeykong5

Mouseslayer17 wrote: »

If she turned up the gravy train would be over for the parents.
They've made millions off her

Thats not a very nice comment. Just look at her mother's face. She has aged so much.

A Little Pony

She will be found one day, of that I have no doubt. Once they get the diggers in to dig under the apartment, they  will find her.

SteM

Mouseslayer17 wrote: »

If she turned up the gravy train would be over for the parents.
They've made millions off her

Rubbish. If she turned up now safe and well do you think there wouldn't be money made from books and movie rights and interviews? And they might be actually able to enjoy that money knowing their child was alive.

SteM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Ask any parent do they think the kids were old enough to be left alone, I think you'll get pretty unanimous answers.

There occupation is irrelevant but they would know about drugs and dosages which makes the story I was told that bit more believable.

You do realise you were just told a story don't you? Your journalist friend doesn't know anymore than anyone else, they're just putting 2 and 2 together and forming their own opinions.

GLaDOS

If the McCann's did it, why would they go to so much trouble to keep the story in the public eye?

Surely they'd rather it die down naturally.

A Little Pony

GLaDOS wrote: »

If the McCann's did it, why would they go to so much trouble to keep the story in the public eye?

Surely they'd rather it die down naturally.

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GLaDOS

A Little Pony wrote: »

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They were already quite wealthy though. Logically, the risk of getting caught and jailed outweighs the money made form such an endeavour.

Ferrari3600

Mouseslayer17 wrote: »

You'll have to ask Kate and jerry that one

Maybe that yellow-haired man 'cross the water has a point....one could imagine the application of enhanced interrogation techniques to that pair might yield some useful information.

Not that I would advocate such a move, of course.

check_six

Sure they dropped off the other 2 kids at the creche the day after the disappearance (or possibly the second day after). Was it to join the desperate hunt for their missing kid? Nope, it was to go jogging. *mind boggles*

Ferrari3600

GLaDOS wrote: »

If the McCann's did it, why would they go to so much trouble to keep the story in the public eye?

Surely they'd rather it die down naturally.

Potentially, they didn't bank on their being such a huge media interest in the first place...but once it was clear there was they decided to run with it...one possible theory, don't know if true or not.

Omackeral

check_six wrote: »

Sure they dropped of the other 2 kids at the creche the day after the disappearance (or possibly the second day after). Was it to join the desperate hunt for their missing kid? Nope, it was to go jogging. *mind boggles*

Maybe they wanted to jog their memories?

:P :P :P

mikeoneilly

check_six wrote: »

Sure they dropped of the other 2 kids at the creche the day after the disappearance (or possibly the second day after). Was it to join the desperate hunt for their missing kid? Nope, it was to go jogging. *mind boggles*

Didn't think the jogging was that odd-people can do strange things at these times

I think kidnapping is the most likely scenario.I don't think it likely the parents could have covered up death and disposal of body

sadie06

pilly wrote: »

There was an 18 year old recently found in the US wasn't there? So nothing is beyond the realms of possibility I suppose.

Yes but when a baby is taken from a hospital it is more likely to be a delusional mother intending to bring the baby up as their own.

I doubt that possibility exists in the case of poor Madeleine. I think the McCanns made a huge mistake and have gone to enormous efforts ever since to cover it up, perhaps to avoid jail time or to avoid losing their other children. A more pessimistic view would be that they (and their friends) colluded to protect their own careers and future earning potential.

Either way Gerry is cold and Kate unconvincing.

Mouseslayer17

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Thats not a very nice comment. Just look at her mother's face. She has aged so much.

Keeping secrets does that

The Talking Bread

There is no way that poor girl is still alive. It is a horridly sad story

ligerdub

I'd put the people who think she was abducted and believe the McCanns in the same camp as those who are surprised when a politician breaks a promise.

donkeykong5

Mouseslayer17 wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Thats not a very nice comment. Just look at her mother's face. She has aged so much.

Keeping secrets does that

So does heartbreak.

Lackey

GLaDOS wrote: »

If the McCann's did it, why would they go to so much trouble to keep the story in the public eye?

Surely they'd rather it die down naturally.

I thought the same but Erica Parsons adoptive parents did the same thing, even on the Dr. Phil show, and they were guilty as hell.

Desoh

It's suspected that she was snatched by a German/Belgium gang and used to blackmail peedo politicians. WhenKate found out she was missing she shouted 'They've taken her'! It would be interesting to know whom she meant by 'They've.

The Talking Bread

wakka12 wrote: »

It is not irrelevant, apart from the fact that the story would not be nearly as well known if they were a lower class family, the parents would have been seen in a much more different and guiltier light than Madelines parent's were, regardless of what police would have told the public I think most people would automatically assume it was gross negligence and manslughter if jacinta and anto had drugged their daughter before going out with their mates

To be honest, I think the opposite. The whole narrative behind the parents' possible culpability owed itself to the fact they were smart enough and savvy enough to maintain a cold innocent composure to cover themselves. The psychoanalysis of their demeanour, manner of speaking, their publicity campaign fuelled the suspicion.

The tabloids wouldn't break down the behaviour of other lower classes to such a degree.

mikeoneilly

sadie06 wrote: »

Yes but when a baby is taken from a hospital it is more likely to be a delusional mother intending to bring the baby up as their own.

I doubt that possibility exists in the case of poor Madeleine. I think the McCanns made a huge mistake and have gone to enormous efforts ever since to cover it up, perhaps to avoid jail time or to avoid losing their other children. A more pessimistic view would be that they (and their friends) colluded to protect their own careers and future earning potential.

Either way Gerry is cold and Kate unconvincing.

She could have taken the rap for an accidental overdose leaving him free to work

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Ben Gadot

A Little Pony wrote: »

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You'd have to be absolutely sick to keep that charade going for that long....all in the name of money.

That's why I always thought the suspicion towards the McCanns was absolutely ludicrous. A normal person would have cracked a long time ago.

Not to mention you're dealing with the unlikely odds that not only would one be as sick as the other but that they were equally capable of maintaining normality after all this time.

XsApollo

I read a lot into this and all the evidence
On that Madeline file website a few years ago.
I am convinced they killed her.
They were definatley sedating her and I think she passed away while sedated that night and they tried to cover it.
Gerry is probably the driver behind the cover up and his wife followed.
Just their demeanour in interviews and stuff doesn't sit right with me.
I don't think Kate is the bad person here ,
I think he is.

I can't really remember specifics now, but the night before didn't the upstairs resident say she could hear a child crying for mammy and daddy for a good while.
How the hell you could leave a child like that is beyond me.

The next night they sedated her and the rest followed.
The cadaver dog signalling in the hire car also.

I think the overdose is the most plausible explanation.

bodhrandude

Coincidentally I happen to be watching last years season 2 The Missing by the BBC, if only we had someone like Julien Baptiste on the scene. A great series, although depressing, but I figure the McCann case influenced the making of this programme as with RTE's Amber.

Day Lewin

It is well possible that the little girl was abducted by a pedophile, probably a local: horridly misused, and dead within 48 hours or less.


Why would anyone think different? Did the misguided parents have either means, motive or opportunity? Who can dispose of a dead body in a foreign country and go completely undetected?
(I've always thought that dropping a child's body into the sea off a sailboat a few miles offshore, seemed the most reliable way to escape detection.)
Have the parents any motive? There was no history of violence.
I mean, practically speaking, if you think the parents were guilty, how was it done - where, when, why, with what, and how hidden?

XsApollo

Ben Gadot wrote: »

You'd have to be absolutely sick to keep that charade going for that long....all in the name of money.

That's why I always thought the suspicion towards the McCanns was absolutely ludicrous. A normal person would have cracked a long time ago.

Not to mention you're dealing with the unlikely odds that not only would one be as sick as the other but that they were equally capable of maintaining normality after all this time.

Look at the dude in the states that had Amanda berry and others in the house locked up.
Josef Fritzel.
That dude in the U.K. Was on the news with his wife crying about the kids he burned down.

You never know what's going on behind closed doors, or what people are really like.