Mutant HD51 Sat Reciever

Skippy along

After having a ameiko alien triple tuner for years we are finally going our separate ways have a Mutant HD51 reciever coming today did a lot of research so we'll see how we get on with it if anyone has questions fire away

toe_knee

Have mine a few months now and love it

tommycahir

great box, lightning fast, pity there is not more 4k content available for it ..
If your stuck looking for an almost ready to go image for it have a look at the ones from enigma2community.com

https://enigma2community.com/repo/?dir=E2%20Community%20Backup%20Images
They have it mostly configured and provide support for it on the forum and if you bought from http://www.xbmcwizard.co.uk/ it should come with it preinstalled.

Skippy along

Yeah thanks I'll have a look at those images i got vix preloaded from world of satellite for €230 so I'll see how it goes. I had to get 2 sat tuners installed as i want to record stuff so no room for a onboard terrestrial tuner, i have a cheapy USB tuner for terrestial/saorview on the way as well can I ask what you guys did regarding recieving terrestial/saorview and did anyone manage to get the bigger 3.5" hard drive to fit
Thanks

Skippy along

tommycahir wrote: »

great box, lightning fast, pity there is not more 4k content available for it ..
If your stuck looking for an almost ready to go image for it have a look at the ones from enigma2community.com

https://enigma2community.com/repo/?dir=E2%20Community%20Backup%20Images
They have it mostly configured and provide support for it on the forum and if you bought from http://www.xbmcwizard.co.uk/ it should come with it preinstalled.

Thanks tommy had a spot of bother with the Vix Image I had preinstalled so went with the one you suggested above fantastic ready to go image

Zardoz

Skippy along wrote: »

After having a ameiko alien triple tuner for years we are finally going our separate ways have a Mutant HD51 reciever coming today did a lot of research so we'll see how we get on with it if anyone has questions fire away

How does the picture quality on 1080p and standard definition material compare with the Alien 2 ?

I'm curious as the receiver uses an Arm based cpu so it should technically produce a better picture than Mips based receivers and something similar to SH4 based receivers.
From briefly reading German forums ,the general consensus is that the picture quality is better than Mips receivers.

Skippy along

@Zardoz
picture quality which I'm a real fussy guy about is definitely much better on HD channels so very impressed, had heard the picture quality was much than others which was one of the reasons I went for an Arm processor, seems the SD has improved as well, had a problem with the preloaded vix image so installed OpenATV which works better with oscam happy enough with the picture quality there to, I'm waiting for a usb-dvb-tuner for it so haven't had the chance to test out saorview channel quality, should have got WOS to install a onboard terrestial tuner instead of a second sat tuner, backing up an image is a breeze to do.
Overall delighted with picture quality and how responsive it is
Are you thinking of retiring the Ameiko?

Zardoz

Skippy along wrote: »

@Zardoz
picture quality which I'm a real fussy guy about is definitely much better on HD channels so very impressed, had heard the picture quality was much than others which was one of the reasons I went for an Arm processor, seems the SD has improved as well, had a problem with the preloaded vix image so installed OpenATV which works better with oscam happy enough with the picture quality there to, I'm waiting for a usb-dvb-tuner for it so haven't had the chance to test out saorview channel quality, should have got WOS to install a onboard terrestial tuner instead of a second sat tuner, backing up an image is a breeze to do.
Overall delighted with picture quality and how responsive it is
Are you thinking of retiring the Ameiko?

Thanks Skippy along,
I have been planning to upgrade the Amiko for a long time but any of the receivers I tried to replace it with were Mips based and and whilst the performance was fine ,the picture quality was not satisfactory.

I've been holding off for an Arm based high end receiver like the Mutant as picture quality is of primary concern to me.
A pity the Mutant doesnt have the option of a third tuner but a USB Tuner should be acceptable .

Is the remote control ok ,it looks a bit plasticky and generic.

Skippy along

Zardoz wrote: »

Thanks Skippy along,
I have been planning to upgrade the Amiko for a long time but any of the receivers I tried to replace it with were Mips based and and whilst the performance was fine ,the picture quality was not satisfactory.

I've been holding off for an Arm based high end receiver like the Mutant as picture quality is of primary concern to me.
A pity the Mutant doesnt have the option of a third tuner but a USB Tuner should be acceptable .

Is the remote control ok ,it looks a bit plasticky and generic.

Have a cheapo USB tuner coming from China should work with the ATV image which has the Realtek RTL2832U driver's for it, if that don't work plan B I'll just whip out one of the Sat tuners an get a internal one from WOS £30 I'll let you know how i get on regarding the USB one
To get the best out of the HD picture you'd want a 40 to 50 TV mines a 50" so you won't be disappointed

The only thing I'm disappointed by is the remote its likely taken from some parts bin it really is shocking the buttons require a fair bit of pressure but I'd live with that because it's such a great box

tommycahir

Skippy along wrote: »

The only thing I'm disappointed by is the remote its likely taken from some parts bin it really is shocking the buttons require a fair bit of pressure but I'd live with that because it's such a great box

Alot.of people with the hd51 have gone for the "one for all essence 4 in 1 remote" in place of the mutant one..

Skippy along

Thanks tommy you just cost me €26.99 reserved in Argos
https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/1066768/Trail/searchtext>One+for+all+essence.htm

GY A1

Skippy along wrote: »

Thanks tommy you just cost me €26.99 reserved in Argos
https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/1066768/Trail/searchtext>One+for+all+essence.htm

Is it same one in maplin cheaper

Skippy along

there's two though i like the one with the siliver blingy buttons:D
http://www.maplin.ie/search?text=one+for+all+essence&x=0&y=0

http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10152&catalogId=14551&langId=111&productId=485054

GY A1

http://www.maplin.ie/p/one-for-all-urc7140-essence-4-in-1-remote-control-a22jz

tommycahir

GY A1 wrote: »

Is it same one in maplin cheaper

Skippy along wrote: »

there's two though i like the one with the siliver blingy buttons:D
http://www.maplin.ie/search?text=one+for+all+essence&x=0&y=0

http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10152&catalogId=14551&langId=111&productId=485054

GY A1 wrote: »

http://www.maplin.ie/p/one-for-all-urc7140-essence-4-in-1-remote-control-a22jz

Yip the essence 7140 is the one i was referring to it's in Maplin for cheaper as per GY A1
http://www.maplin.ie/p/one-for-all-urc7140-essence-4-in-1-remote-control-a22jz

It is also currently 24.99 in Tesco so that price in maplin is very good.

Skippy along

I'm sorted lads:D should be miles better than the standard crappy remote

Zardoz

Skippy along wrote: »

Have a cheapo USB tuner coming from China should work with the ATV image which has the Realtek RTL2832U driver's for it, if that don't work plan B I'll just whip out one of the Sat tuners an get a internal one from WOS £30 I'll let you know how i get on regarding the USB one
To get the best out of the HD picture you'd want a 40 to 50 TV mines a 50" so you won't be disappointed

The only thing I'm disappointed by is the remote its likely taken from some parts bin it really is shocking the buttons require a fair bit of pressure but I'd live with that because it's such a great box

Thanks
I have a 50 inch Plasma and a 43 inch Plasma ,both pretty high end ,so get a good picture .

That remote is a big drawback though ,a pity .

Skippy along

sugarman wrote: »

As i said, if your tv has hdmi-cec you can use your tv's remote

@sugarman If you could Let us know how you get with that. I got the one 4 all this morning so will see how that goes later. @sugarman what image did you go for?

Zardoz

sugarman wrote: »

As i said, if your tv has hdmi-cec you can use your tv's remote

Cool,I had forgotten about that.
I do have hdmi-cec on my Tvs.

How well does that work,can you choose the button mapping ?

Skippy along

If your looking for a ready to go plug an play ATV image the guys over in the Enigma2community have a fantastic one https://enigma2community.com/thread-64.html

Skippy along

Got the one 4 all remote setup took 10 minutes delighted with it all functions mapped from the original remote to the corresponding buttons on the one 4 all, very happy also with the not having to point the remote directly at the box for it to take effect

decor58

tommycahir wrote:

It is also currently 24.99 in Tesco so that price in maplin is very good.

Tesco in Bray are selling those remotes in their clearance sale for 8.70e.

Skippy along

The one on maplins website says it's discontinued http://www.maplin.ie/p/one-for-all-urc7140-essence-4-in-1-remote-control-a22jz
Was in maplin today they only had one one4all remote at €19.95
http://www.oneforall.co.uk/universal-remotes/urc7110-essence-tv.html which is a bog standard TV remote replacement and won't work with multiple devices
This is the one I got today in Argos and is a 4 way sat/tv/amp/blu Ray €26.99 does the job perfectly http://www.oneforall.co.uk/universal-remotes/urc7140-essence-4.html

decor58

Skippy along wrote:

which is a bog standard TV remote replacement and won't work with multiple devices This is the one I got today in Argos and is a 4 way sat/tv/amp/blu Ray €26.99 does the job perfectl

Tesco Bray have 7110@ 4.99e, 7120 @ 7e, 7140 @ 8.70e

Skippy along

That's a great price! would you be open to purchasing a few for your fellow boardies on here if they wanted one?

byte

Those One For All remotes are exellent and well laid out. At that Tesco price, that's a steal and well worthy of purchase.

tommycahir

Hi Guys, just wondering what USB DVB T2 tuner ya have ordered? Looking to get one for my Zgemma but any of the ones I'm looking at on ebay don't ship to Ireland

Skippy along

tommycahir wrote: »

Hi Guys, just wondering what USB DVB T2 tuner ya have ordered? Looking to get one for my Zgemma but any of the ones I'm looking at on ebay don't ship to Ireland

Hi Tommy have a USB DVT coming next week form china its not a " T2 " though http://www.ebay.ie/itm/331349521661?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

tommycahir

sugarman wrote: »

Finally got around to setting this up and... box is dead:mad:

Well not dead, but not displaying.

Tried a number of different HDMI and different sockets, all workings through my other box / PS4.

LCD on the box just comes us as HD51 STB 4K, on switch doesnt do anything.

Any ideas?

Step 1 flash a new image to it either a backup one like e2comm or a vanilla openatv nightly one

Skippy along

After 4 weeks I eventually received the USB Dvb- terrestrial tuner for saorview channels and I'm delighted to say it's working perfectly!!! the best €8 I spent all year

Skippy along

After 4 weeks I eventually received the USB Dvb- terrestrial tuner for saorview channels and I'm delighted to say it's working perfectly!!! the best 8 euro I spent all year

irishchris

Anyone manage to for a 3.5" hdd in this?

Skippy along

irishchris wrote: »

Anyone manage to for a 3.5" hdd in this?

I did, had to remove the 2.5" caddy and lie it flat, now it ain't screwed in but does the job.

tommycahir

One of the guys on Twitter has compiled a new openatv image with kodi built in if anybody here is interested in testing it out

https://twitter.com/dannyhow187/status/839234691194580993

tommycahir

sugarman wrote: »

Will give it a go later, how reliable is this lad?

He's a good guy, has done alot of builds for vu+ boxes and posts them on vu+ images forum..

He knows his enigma2 stuff..

tommycahir

Of course if your trying it.. back up your existing image 1st..

tommycahir

Someone on Twitter tried and kodi not working yet on it..

The lips

What LNB did you guys use when upgrading to a 4k Mutant/Octagon box?

Standard skyQ LNB?

tommycahir

SkyQ LNB will not work with a FTA receiver you will need the hybrid SkyQ LNB.
If you have the older sky+ or sky+hd then the standard sky lnb you have will work fine.

The lips

I have the old sky+ LNB, saves me €50, thanks

lawred2

Is that a triple tuner box?

The lips

Triple - twin sat and one T2. Have to hang a saorview aerial

http://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/octagon/octagon-sf4008-combo-2xdvb-s-s2-s2x-plus-1x-dvb-c-t-t2yet.

tommycahir

It works and works very very well from all reports i have seen..

However you need to flash with the latest openatv 6.0 image to be able to install from plugins..

Zardoz

Does anyone know if the Play TV will work with the Mutant for Saorview ?

GY A1

Zardoz wrote: »

Does anyone know if the Play TV will work with the Mutant for Saorview ?

Should work with any enogma2

Zardoz

GY A1 wrote: »

Should work with any enogma2

Thanks,I managed to get an old WandTv stick I had going for Saorview.

First impressions on the receiver ,its a very nice piece of kit ,very fast and the remote is better than I had been led to believe.
I'm running it on a 1080p Plasma and sadly the picture quality is not as good as I had been led to believe.
Despite having an Arm chipset the picture is just as bad as a MIPS receiver,its noticeably inferior to the Alien 2 .
I'm very disappointed ,I've tried so many Mips receivers and I thought the Mutant as it was an Arm processor would be better but alas its not,I think I'm wasting my time trying to find a receiver with as good a picture as the Alien 2 .:(

Zardoz

Skippy along wrote: »

The only thing I'm disappointed by is the remote its likely taken from some parts bin it really is shocking the buttons require a fair bit of pressure but I'd live with that because it's such a great box

I'm wondering have they improved the remote because I cant fault it at all ,the buttons are nice and soft ,you don't have to point it at the box and its very smooth.
One of the best remotes I've used .

Skippy along

Zardoz wrote: »

I'm wondering have they improved the remote because I cant fault it at all ,the buttons are nice and soft ,you don't have to point it at the box and its very smooth.
One of the best remotes I've used .

I only used mine for a few days probably didn't give it a chance went for a one4all happy with it.. How you getting on with the picture quality did you adjust video /Display settings in the box menu

Skippy along

Zardoz wrote: »

I'm wondering have they improved the remote because I cant fault it at all ,the buttons are nice and soft ,you don't have to point it at the box and its very smooth.
One of the best remotes I've used .

I only used mine for a few days probably didn't give it a chance went for a one4all happy with it.. How you getting on with the picture quality did you adjust video /Display settings in the box menu

Zardoz

Skippy along wrote: »

I only used mine for a few days probably didn't give it a chance went for a one4all happy with it.. How you getting on with the picture quality did you adjust video /Display settings in the box menu

I tried lots of things to improve the picture ,I literally drove myself and Mrs Zardoz mad from it.:o
I tried Openatv,Vix, and HDFreaks images and found that Openatv gave the best picture .
Vix and HD Freaks default settings are terrible ,ridiculously high contrast and brightness levels,low gamma ,not condusive to a good picture at all.
Openatv was better.

I tinkered with lots of things on the tv ,and the video enhancement settings on the receiver too .
Contrast,Brightness,Color,Saturation,Hue,Saturation,White Balance and whilst I improved it its still not as good as the Aliens.

The picture on the Mutant is almost identical to that on an Edision Mini I have ,that's a Mips based processor.
I've had lots of MIPS receivers and sold most of them on as the picture especially SD was sub par .
The reason I bought the Mutant was because its an Arm processor and its supposed to give a superior picture to Mips receivers and as good as SH4 receivers like the Alien.

Its a real shame as its an excellent receiver .
I like the multiboot function and Kodi is very good on it .
Its very fast to boot and runs really well.

cargen

To all mutant hd51 owners.

image to use and what plugins do you recommend?