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SonOff Low Cost Wifi Switches for Home Automation

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    Progress, nearly there but not quite yet

    I got an old android phone I forgot I had. Installed ewelink.

    My home wifi SSID is VODAFONE-123
    start ewelink.
    press pair button on sonoff.
    connect phone to ITEADxx network

    back to ewelink, add new device, name device, now heres where Im stuck, Im on the sonoffs ITEAD network, I have to add the wifi that the sonoff is going to connect to in the "choose wifi" screen.
    The wfi that Im connected to is defaulting as the only choice, I cant type over it. The only way I can change the wifi thats there to VODAFONE-123 is to connect to that, but then I cant see the sonoff.

    If I leave it on the ITEAD network, then proceed, that wifi is what the sonoff tries to connect to which has no internet access obviously.

    Anyone know how to select a different wifi in "choose wifi" without connecting to that wifi?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭clint_silver


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    oh my days, I got it. So the android worked on what must have been the 4th or 5th attempt.
    Connect phone to home VODAFONE-123 wifi (or whatever your home address is)
    Have sonoff in pairing mode, in ewelink, add device, name device, go past "choose wifi" and "VODAFONE-123" (or whatever your home network is) should be selected with its password, in the bottom of that screen it says device "ITEAD-xxxxx" was found, after about 10 seconds, device registered. Lamp switches on and off from ewelink app, result.


    Works from app on my iphone now as well so obviously just needed to get registration working.

    I was literally on my last try and what Id done to get it working I know Id tried a few times


    Playing with it for a few minutes, its a little bit flakey, getting frequent "device or network not available or "device is offline".
    Wait a minute, try again, and it works. Its sitting beside router so I know its not a proximity thing. Is that common, its like the sonoff isnt continually connected, is there a wakeup timeframe?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭b.gud


    Hey folks, just came across this and am really interested in it.

    What I'd specifically like to do is connect it to my heat timer so that I could remotely turn on/off the heat and set up timers for it. The timer I have in my house is like the one below just wondering do you guys think that the SonOff would work with this kind of timer?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    b.gud wrote: »
    Hey folks, just came across this and am really interested in it.

    What I'd specifically like to do is connect it to my heat timer so that I could remotely turn on/off the heat and set up timers for it. The timer I have in my house is like the one below just wondering do you guys think that the SonOff would work with this kind of timer?

    full_8b5452250d75f07ccb77540906e15de9.jpg

    yes, theres a fairly advanced scheduler, on - off to the minute - repeat schedule.

    If you're using it on an immersion I think you have to have the higher rated amp model due to power draw.


  • Registered Users Posts: 744 ✭✭✭getoffthepot


    b.gud wrote: »
    Hey folks, just came across this and am really interested in it.

    What I'd specifically like to do is connect it to my heat timer so that I could remotely turn on/off the heat and set up timers for it. The timer I have in my house is like the one below just wondering do you guys think that the SonOff would work with this kind of timer?

    full_8b5452250d75f07ccb77540906e15de9.jpg

    See post 142 - I followed this and it's working fine.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭lochdara


    just waiting on PM to deliver my 4 Ch Pro R2. I hope to hook it up to my gates which i have yet to buy.I'll test on a few simple devices first.

    ______________________________________________________

    Currently fundraising for Irish Motor Neurone Disease Association

    In Memory of my fab Wife www.sinsin.ie



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    Ive several devices set up now with sonoff switches. All working great paired with alexa dot. Even though Ive set up alexa with the ewelink skills, everytime you add a device you need to go back to alexa app, settings, add devices, it scans ewelink for new devices.

    Still cant get any one of 3 iphones to configure a sonoff, have to use the android. works in seconds once I do,

    "alexa, turn on sitting room lamp"
    "alexa, turn off clints lamp"

    Has anyone found a way to ask alexa if a device is on? It seems to be switch on/off only.

    "alexa, is sitting room lamp on?"


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    b.gud wrote: »
    Hey folks, just came across this and am really interested in it.

    What I'd specifically like to do is connect it to my heat timer so that I could remotely turn on/off the heat and set up timers for it. The timer I have in my house is like the one below just wondering do you guys think that the SonOff would work with this kind of timer?

    full_8b5452250d75f07ccb77540906e15de9.jpg

    I had this switch on my immersion and got the sonoff POW to replace it which came yesterday and I fitted today, the way mine was wired it was a bit messy to take away the old switch so I put the sonoff inbetween the timer and the shower on/off switch and left the old timer switch to on all the time. Gives me the option to use the hardware timer if I have issue with wifi.

    Found the POW switch easier to wire up, and in the ewelink app I get a nice power draw meter.
    Rediscovered with the alexa and now turn on and off with a voice command or the app. the scheduler in ewelink is great. On/Off times and countdown timer as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭cletus


    Folks where are people currently buying these switches. I went to the website linked in the first post, and whil I could get a sonoff basic for about a fiver, the cheapest shipping was almost 8 quid. Now i know its not loads in the grand scheme of things, but it irks me to pay more for sending me the thing than the thing itself actually costs


  • Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭lochdara


    got mine from banggood with about 5 weeks delivery for a euro or so.
    I got the 4 chan pro r2 from amazon in a few days

    ______________________________________________________

    Currently fundraising for Irish Motor Neurone Disease Association

    In Memory of my fab Wife www.sinsin.ie



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    Got one batch from ebay and one from aliexpress. Little in the price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭cletus


    Thanks folks, had been looking at AliExpress all right, no issues with them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭lochdara


    havent used them but no issues with banggood. Check Itead and amazon also

    ______________________________________________________

    Currently fundraising for Irish Motor Neurone Disease Association

    In Memory of my fab Wife www.sinsin.ie



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    cletus wrote: »
    Thanks folks, had been looking at AliExpress all right, no issues with them?

    None. Got a pow switch in under 2 weeks. Works great on the inmersion.

    Theres little in price between ebay and ali. A few cents. No difference in delivery time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭cletus


    Ok, one last question. I was going to pick up a sonoff basic, and put it inline on the 6 gang extension lead behind the TV. The items plugged into it are Xbox, TV, Blu-ray player and computer tower, so less than the 10 amp rating for the sonoff, but looking online it doesn't seem that there is a ground pass through. There are some workarounds suggested elsewhere, but what have people here been doing, or are you all only using them on double insulated appliances


  • Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭lochdara


    If you buy the TH models you can connect earth into the device. Otherwise on a basic get a block connector and when you cut the cable of the extension cord connect live and neutral to sonoff and earths to block connector. To be extra safe put everything in a small junction box.
    .
    Drill a little hole on top so you have the manual activation of sonoff or remove the cover if you need it. I have my earths just joined but the sonoff device is hidden.

    ______________________________________________________

    Currently fundraising for Irish Motor Neurone Disease Association

    In Memory of my fab Wife www.sinsin.ie



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    as above did same with earth joined outside the box on a basic, but Im not comfortable with it like that so was going to get a junction box but then thought at which time Im nearly at the higher price of the higher rated sonoff anyway so Ive ordered a couple of them for extension boards that I have the basic sonoffs on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭cletus


    Thanks folks, more or less my plan. It will be behind the tv unit so not really concerned, just wondering if i was missing something somewhere


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Gulliver


    This is probably the wrong thing to do, but I stripped a section of outer covering and only snipped the L and N wires (cutting out a section slightly less than the length of the Sonoff unit) and left the earth intact and taped it to the bottom of the Sonoff. Just check you haven't nicked it when stripping.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,608 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Can the dual channel Sonoff be used for control of both sides of an Immersion switch?
    As in Bath or Sink being controllable as well as on/off?
    Or is the preferred option to use a single channel TH16 for on/off only?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    banie01 wrote: »
    Can the dual channel Sonoff be used for control of both sides of an Immersion switch?
    As in Bath or Sink being controllable as well as on/off?
    Or is the preferred option to use a single channel TH16 for on/off only?


    I had same thought and think this is doable with the dual, youd have to wire input to one and output to 2 so its not immersion on and THEN bath on or tap on, which is the hard wire method, its just a simple bath ON/OFF and tap ON/OFF.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭air


    I've used a 4CH pro with interlocking for bath / sink immersion, it's the easiest option for an immersion. I put it in an enclosure with 2 normally open contactors. You'd need to cascade 2 sonoffs and use a contactor with 1 normally open and one normally closed output if you want to do it with the regular ones. First Sonoff would be on/off and the second one would default to say sink, and switch to bath when switched on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    Russia closed off IPs from google and Amazon last night, as eWelink use amazon aws, thats all the Russian sonoffs turned into tiny hard switches.

    In case that happened here on a permanent basis and assuming it included vpn's, are the switches flashable to use some firmware that allow LAN control?


    edit: the block was because the messaging service Telegram wouldnt give russia their encryption keys so the regulator says ok feck you....
    https://themoscowtimes.com/news/russian-regulator-blocks-over-2-million-amazong-google-ip-addresses-after-telegram-ban-61190


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Russia closed off IPs from google and Amazon last night, as eWelink use amazon aws, thats all the Russian sonoffs turned into tiny hard switches.

    In case that happened here on a permanent basis and assuming it included vpn's, are the switches flashable to use some firmware that allow LAN control?


    edit: the block was because the messaging service Telegram wouldnt give russia their encryption keys so the regulator says ok feck you....
    https://themoscowtimes.com/news/russian-regulator-blocks-over-2-million-amazong-google-ip-addresses-after-telegram-ban-61190

    Ya there's plenty of custom firmwares out there. Tasmoto seems to be popular. I think they're all only flashable via UART though so it takes a small bit of know-how and a USB->UART adapter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,608 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I replaced my immersion timeclock with a sonoff already loving it.
    The timeclock was on/off only with the immersion switched to bath and left on, then controlled by clock.
    I have a Gen 3 nest heatlink in the hotpress too so I may get around to looking into how to getting the immersion wired to that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭taytobreath


    Can u get a switch that will fit in the back of a standard switch box. To control lights?

    Ok sorry i just found out the answer i think, i need to buy T1 light switches to replace the existing switches.

    And u need a neutral at the boxes for these to work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Gulliver


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Yeah, it said "Kill all humans".:pac:

    Forgot to take a screenshot and put it through a translator.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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