Complaint about haunted bread on Late Late Show

Peregrinus

looksee wrote: »

I know someone who uses the word 'abortion' as in 'its a complete abortion' to mean made a mess of. It really grates with me - I think because it is using a word of really some significance in such a casual way.

Depending on context, this may be a correct use. An abortion is what happens when a process, scheme or sequence is aborted (stopped from proceeding by being interrupted, or abandoned, or whatever).

So, if you've got a complete mess because something has gone wrong in the execution of a plan or an intention, yeah, that's an abortion. Whereas if you execute your plans fully and correctly, and the outcome is still a mess, that's not an abortion. It's just the outcome of what was probably a bad plan to begin with.

mikhail

magicbastarder wrote: »

just out of curiosity, i had a look to see who's on the board which would have drawn up the report - "The Compliance Committee is responsible for the monitoring and enforcement of compliance, the investigation of complaints and a number of reporting functions. The Committee has eight members; four of whom are appointed by the Government on the nomination of the Minister, while the remaining four are appointed by the Authority, comprising of two members of the Authority and two members of the BAI Executive"

Comments on who they are - in italics - are mine, lifted from online sources.

Member & Term-End Date
Professor Kevin Rafter (Chair), 19/01/2020 - Professor of Political Communication at Dublin City University
Ms Paula Mullooly, 20/01/2020 - solicitor with A&L goodbody with 'extensive experience in media law'
Mr Nigel Heneghan, 16/02/2020 - runs a PR company, 'serves on the Board of the Public Relations Consultants Association in Ireland'
Ms Eileen Maher, 16/02/2020 - '30 years in the telecoms industry with commercial and technical experience'

Nominated Authority Members
Dr Rosemary Day - Head of the Department of Media and Communication Studies in Mary Immaculate College
Prof Maeve McDonagh - 'Legal academic specialising in information law' - UCC

Nominated Executive Members
Dr CiarKissane - Senior Manger with the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland
Ms Anne O’Brien - lecturer in media studies, maynooth

6/8 are women (assuming one of Rosemary or Paula or the others isn't a great big Kerryman with a beard like a rhododendron bush). Not that there's anything wrong with women, but they are more often religious (I don't think that's controversial, but here's a source), and there'd be comments if it were 75% men.

Peregrinus

mikhail wrote: »

6/8 are women (assuming one of Rosemary or Paula or the others isn't a great big Kerryman with a beard like a rhododendron bush). Not that there's anything wrong with women, but they are more often religious (I don't think that's controversial, but here's a source), and there'd be comments if it were 75% men.

You fool! You're missing the obvious! Don't you see that eight out of the eight are Irish, and Irish people are conspicuously more likely to be Catholic than residents of neighbouring countries!

The whole thing is obviously a sinister plot by the Catholic church! :rolleyes:

realdanbreen

mikhail wrote: »

. Not that there's anything wrong with women, .

Samaris

looksee wrote: »

I know someone who uses the word 'abortion' as in 'its a complete abortion' to mean made a mess of. It really grates with me - I think because it is using a word of really some significance in such a casual way.

Not come across that, but that is a ridiculous phrase. Let us go back to making balls of things as God and Wikitionary intended!

nozzferrahhtoo

frostyjacks wrote: »

Because the oh so tolerant liberals would never whine about something that upsets them.

A tenuous and weak segway at best, but not the same thing at all either. There is a difference between getting uppity and offended because you do not like how something was described.......... and taking issue with something that is positively misleading.

In this case, when it was reported, it was ruled NOT to be misleading. But that does not question the intention of the people who highlighted it for such review and suggested it was.

ENTIRELY different to getting haughty and foot stampy because you are personally offended or upset. If that is the best counter example you can find to hold up against the one the thread is about then you have made your "side" look worse, not better.

frostyjacks wrote: »

You use the term 'religious snowflakes' to describe those who complained about the offensive material. I'm showing you that the other side can complain just as much.

But again the example you gave was not someone complaining merely because they were some personally offended snowflake. They complained because they were under the opinion that the advertisement in question was positively misleading and dishonest.

apples and oranges son, apples and oranges.

realdanbreen wrote: »

Oh yeah Blind boy. Is that well heeled Blindboy from a posh part of Limerick who puts on a Limerick working class accent to stick it to the man?

So we are switching to ad hominem attacks against a personal accent and financial background, rather than discussing further the actual topic of the thread? Well that says a lot.

realdanbreen wrote: »

It's putting blindboy and his musing in context. Pretending to be something that he most definitely is not tells a lot about him IMO.

SHOCK HEADLINE: Media personality has on stage persona that actually differs from his own!

On page two: Water is wet, and wind can blow paper off tables.

Any other ground breaking revelations in the world of the obvious you can add for us today?

magicbastarder

realdanbreen wrote: »

It's putting blindboy and his musing in context. Pretending to be something that he most definitely is not tells a lot about him IMO.

you mean he *doesn't* walk around - and sleep, and everything else - with a plastic shopping bag over his head all the time?
next you'll be telling me jesus is not real.

mikhail

Peregrinus wrote: »

You fool! You're missing the obvious! Don't you see that eight out of the eight are Irish, and Irish people are conspicuously more likely to be Catholic than residents of neighbouring countries!

The whole thing is obviously a sinister plot by the Catholic church! :rolleyes:

Well, now that you mention it, there's a conspicuous under-representation of ducks on the panel, too.

Peregrinus

mikhail wrote: »

Well, now that you mention it, there's a conspicuous under-representation of ducks on the panel, too.

It's quiet on that panel. Too quiet.

magicbastarder

mikhail wrote: »

Not that there's anything wrong with women

i just had to pullquote that.

realdanbreen

nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »

So we are switching to ad hominem attacks against a personal accent and financial background, rather than discussing further the actual topic of the thread? Well that says a lot.

Bet you were waiting all week to get 'ad hominem' into one of your lengthy posts nozz. There was no 'attack' as you well know . Blindboys attempt to get right down there with his fake Souhill/Moyross accent hasn't cut much ice in Limerick for many a day.

kylith

realdanbreen wrote: »

It's putting blindboy and his musing in context. Pretending to be something that he most definitely is not tells a lot about him IMO.

So, if someone from Ballymun had elocution lessons we should disregard their opinion?

What does his accent, real or fake, have to do with the point he made? Do you actually have any comment on what he said rather than what inflection he was using when he said it?

realdanbreen

kylith wrote: »

So, if someone from Ballymun had elocution lessons we should disregard their opinion?

What does his accent, real or fake, have to do with the point he made? Do you actually have any comment on what he said rather than what inflection he was using when he said it?

If someone from Shrewesbury road was pretending to be from Ballymun then you would take that into account when listening to what they had to say, pretty simple really.

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Neither do I.

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Obviously I am not making sense to you but I'm afraid I can't really help you there. Take a bit of time and look back at what I posted and see how that goes.

nozzferrahhtoo

realdanbreen wrote: »

Bet you were waiting all week to get 'ad hominem' into one of your lengthy posts nozz. There was no 'attack' as you well know . Blindboys attempt to get right down there with his fake Souhill/Moyross accent hasn't cut much ice in Limerick for many a day.

See you are now even making it personal about me, but still not backing up any of the positions or discussing the actual thread topic.

A persons accent and financial background have nothing whatsoever to do with the validity of what they say. But if you can not rebut what they say, dissing something about their personality is likely the only route left open.

realdanbreen wrote: »

If someone from Shrewesbury road was pretending to be from Ballymun then you would take that into account when listening to what they had to say, pretty simple really.

Not if their pretense was part of their media stage persona. There is a WORLD of difference between pretending you are someone other than you are because you are a liar........ and doing so because it is part of your stage persona.

2+2 remains 4 regardless of whether you say it as yourself, or you dress up like Mr Pussy in drag and pretend to be a women and THEN say it.

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kylith

realdanbreen wrote: »

If someone from Shrewesbury road was pretending to be from Ballymun then you would take that into account when listening to what they had to say, pretty simple really.

OK. Now answer my other two questions.

realdanbreen

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Ok , one last time to try and get through to you and Nozz.
Blinboy has been asked umpteen times as to why he pretends to be from the rough side of Limerick and not the North Circular Road(an affluent area of Limerick. He always refuses to answer.

realdanbreen

kylith wrote: »

OK. Now answer my other two questions.

You're a teacher right?

nozzferrahhtoo

realdanbreen wrote: »

Ok , one last time to try and get through to you and Nozz.

Hah lets see how "last" it is.

But repeating the same thing we are asking about, does nto answer the things you are being asked about. You are talking about a MEDIA personality with a STAGE persona. Of course he pretends to be someone he is not. Thats what a stage persona is!

The question is, what has that got to do with the validity of any given point he makes? Unless a point he makes is actually predicated on where he is actually from, then where he is actually from, or what accent he speaks with, is entirely irrelevant.

So can you discuss the thread, the topic, or the point he actually made? Or is comments on his accent, and class history, all we are likely to get from you?

realdanbreen

nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »

Hah lets see how "last" it is.

But repeating the same thing we are asking about, does nto answer the things you are being asked about. You are talking about a MEDIA personality with a STAGE persona. Of course he pretends to be someone he is not. Thats what a stage persona is!

The question is, what has that got to do with the validity of any given point he makes? Unless a point he makes is actually predicated on where he is actually from, then where he is actually from, or what accent he speaks with, is entirely irrelevant.

So can you discuss the thread, the topic, or the point he actually made? Or is comments on his accent, and class history, all we are likely to get from you?

It is NOT his stage persona that he is evasive about, it is the fact that he has said he is real 'hows's it going kid' Limerick whereas both he and his sidekick Mr Chrome are from well to do areas. Therefore most people round Limerick take what he says with a grain of salt.

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In that same interview blindboy said that 'most people attending midnight mass are half cut anyway' Now maybe blindboy and his well heeled pals who appear to attend mass to please Mom & Pop are half cut but 'most people'?
As for the haunted bread, I saw where another 'Oirish top o the mornin character' Michael Harding used the same expression. The one thing that they have in common is their credibility.

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nozzferrahhtoo

So it was not the "last" then was it? I so called it

realdanbreen wrote: »

It is NOT his stage persona that he is evasive about

And yet that is EXACTLY what was being viewed when he made this comment that the thread is about (Remember what the thread is about???) which you are working so hard not to comment on directly

I get it, you personally do not like him or his persona. But what has that got to do with anything here?

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No I don't, childish but not blasphemous.

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No I don't, childish but not blasphemous.