Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

ThunderCat

I don't like Floyd, never have, and I would love Connor to win but it's just not going to happen.


It's a mismatch as big as you are ever likely to see in a boxing match. Floyd is one of the greatest counter punchers of all time and he will land cleanly and flush every time Connor comes forward. No figuring out the opponent for Floyd on this one as I have a feeling McGregor will know no other way than coming forward in straight lines with minimal head movement. In all honesty, anyone who Floyd brings in to spar him in preparation for this one will give him a much better fight.


There will be no hail Mary shot from Connor either. Anything other than a quick snappy jab will be seen well before time by Floyd and will be countered and without question will discourage Connor from repeat attempts at it as he will keep getting caught flush.


People forget Floyd has a good beard on him too. He can take a punch and his conditioning to do so has always been top drawer. Connor may have a highly regarded left hand in MMA but his power will be negated in the thicker gloves and it will be nothing Floyd hasn't seen countless times before.


The nail in the coffin for me is that video of McGregor sparring from a few pages ago. Hadn't seen it before and McGregor really is poor. It will be man against boy. And it does not matter how much training Connor gets or by who it will still be like training the worlds best marathon runner to complete against Usain Bolt in a 100m sprint. Nothing you can do in the preparation will change that outcome.


I will however be very much looking forward to the trash talk between these two and the build up with be a freak show that we won't be able to turn away from.


My money is on Floyd inside the distance. I wouldn't like to predict a round as Floyd may carry him for the first couple. I'll wait until their Dublin presser (if there is one) and then put on the bet.


Floyd is one shrewd man though. Huge money for little risk or effort and he gets to promote his own fighters on a bill bigger than any of them will ever see again regardless how successful they become.

Would be funny if the Floyd from his 135lb days came out blazing away and just took McGregor out in the same fashion that McGregor did to Aldo.

chin nuts

walshb wrote: »

And, if you are not saying that Mosley's shot pales in comparison to Conor's

I never said that. Maybe you should read the post properly before replying to things that people didn't say

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

chin nuts wrote: »

I never said that. Maybe you should read the post properly before replying to things that people didn't say

We already dealt with that. Read my reply...post 793

Nothing to see here...

Ben Gadot

Are we meant to take this seriously? Anyone betting on this is having a laugh unless they have inner knowledge of the agreement between Floyd and McGregor on how the bout ends.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Are we meant to take this seriously? Anyone betting on this is having a laugh unless they have inner knowledge of the agreement between Floyd and McGregor on how the bout ends.

But don't you know that anyone having suspicions about this event is deluded?

chin nuts

walshb wrote: »

We already dealt with that. Read my reply...post 793

Nothing to see here...

I'm glad you agree with me friend.
Well done

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

chin nuts wrote: »

I'm glad you agree with me friend.
Well done

Let's call my moment a senior moment!

Depp

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

But don't you know that anyone having suspicions about this event is deluded?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=576

Ultimate Seduction

I don't understand how people think Conors brilliant head movement, punching power, and reactions are going to suddenly dissapear because he is wearing 10oz instead of 4oz gloves?

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

On all known info the 1.2 price off Floyd winning this bout is the greatest price in betting history imo, more chance of me beating Bolt over 100m, money buying can get expensive but I've no fear here.

Sweet Science

Conor on points

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

I don't understand how people think Conors brilliant head movement, punching power, and reactions are going to suddenly dissapear because he is wearing 10oz instead of 4oz gloves?

Its nothing to do with gloves . Its the fact that it's a different sport .

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

I don't understand how people think Conors brilliant head movement, punching power, and reactions are going to suddenly dissapear because he is wearing 10oz instead of 4oz gloves?

Who said they would disappear?

Burial.

Floyd via DQ

Conor's head movement, power and reactions are nothing at all special in Boxing. In fact all are quite average, if that at best.

chin nuts

walshb wrote: »

Let's call my moment a senior moment!

Apology accepted.

Lukker-

Sweet Science wrote: »

People are really delusional . Even looking at a journeyman boxer on pads compared to an elite MMA striker is miles and miles apart . Just go on youtube and have a look at it .

The speed, accuracy and power is just next level. They are experts in their field . Anyone who cant see that is deluded .

Tbh, I wouldn't say the biggest difference would be how they hit pads. Granted only a proficient MMA striker would be able to keep up with a decent boxer.

I think the key differences would be footwork, head movement, rhythm.

Footwork and Conor's use of a wide stance which is totally pointless for boxing will what get him lit up IMO.

Lukker-

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

I don't understand how people think Conors brilliant head movement, punching power, and reactions are going to suddenly dissapear because he is wearing 10oz instead of 4oz gloves?

All these skills have been honed directly towards MMA. I mean, he's got the skillset and the athleticism to have tried to be a boxer. That said he's drilled MMA for thousands of hours, all those talents don't directly translate and would take thousands more hours to tweak them for boxing.

In a way his unorthodox style could be his greatest asset, as Floyd will have never have fought someone like him, but at the same time it's more likely to be his downfall.

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

McGregor has a hell of a chin hes never been dropped by a shot in his life (similar to Floyd as a pro), will be interesting to see if Floyd works the body to get him out there.

Burial.

Floyd via DQ

Lukker- wrote: »

All these skills have been honed directly towards MMA. I mean, he's got the skillset and the athleticism to have tried to be a boxer. That said he's drilled MMA for thousands of hours, all those talents don't directly translate and would take thousands more hours to tweak them for boxing.

In a way his unorthodox style could be his greatest asset, as Floyd will have never have fought someone like him, but at the same time it's more likely to be his downfall.

Emanuel Augustus is the most unorthodox fighter you can find, a guy Floyd handled with relative ease. For all his fool acting there was a bloody fine boxer underneath with very impressive movement, reflexes, speed and technique.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Gamebred wrote: »

McGregor has a hell of a chin hes never been dropped by a shot in his life (similar to Floyd as a pro), will be interesting to see if Floyd works the body to get him out there.

But how will his chin react to a clean flush shot from Floyd that connects to a wider area of the head with more overall area impact?

And, not all the time does it take a heavy punch to knock someone out. Those gloves may be heavier than MMA, but they are compact and damn well hurt when landed clean. They also allow for cleaner and flusher connections, as well as giving the hitter a little more confidence in committing.

Again, this extrapolating from MMA results to what could happen in the ring is a bit off. Conor has 0 pedigree/stats in the ring at pro level.

Also, it's very likely Mayweather KOs Conor from a well placed snappy body shot from either a straight jab through the middle (bit less likely due to Conor being a southpaw), or a right hand through the middle, or a hook....or accumulation body work.

It's going to be deer in the headlights from start to finish for Conor.

A Little Pony

It is funny seeing people talk about tactics or Mcgregor has a chin etc as if any of this has any  relevance. It is just an exhibition. Mayweather is just going to dance with him for 12 rounds and carry him in the fight to the end of the fight to give the crowd and fans a full fight to watch.

It is NOT competitive, Mcgregor has absolutely no chance in hell of winning. It is just a money grab. People will just allow themselves to get carried away talking nonsense about what McGregor can do. McGregor can't do anything. If anyone knows anything about boxing punching in boxing is different from MMA, the stance and range and everything is different.

It's like saying would Messi beat Ronnie O'Sullivan in a snooker match.

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

A Little Pony wrote: »

It is funny seeing people talk about tactics or Mcgregor has a chin etc as if any of this has any  relevance. It is just an exhibition. Mayweather is just going to dance with him for 12 rounds and carry him in the fight to the end of the fight to give the crowd and fans a full fight to watch.

It is NOT competitive, Mcgregor has absolutely no chance in hell of winning. It is just a money grab. People will just allow themselves to get carried away talking nonsense about what McGregor can do. McGregor can't do anything. If anyone knows anything about boxing punching in boxing is different from MMA, the stance and range and everything is different.

It's like saying would Messi beat Ronnie O'Sullivan in a snooker match.

Floyd destroying McGregor is a real possibility, another highlight reel and then he can claim he whooped the UFC's best guy ect, its not really in his interests to let it go 12 rounds imo although I do see your point.

Morrison J

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Friend or not the claim seems plain stupid. Not sure he even based it off anything clever. Just flat out baseless kind of claim..

Quigley was trolling to be fair. Basically admitted so on Twitter.

A Little Pony

walshb wrote: »

Gamebred wrote: »

McGregor has a hell of a chin hes never been dropped by a shot in his life (similar to Floyd as a pro), will be interesting to see if Floyd works the body to get him out there.

But how will his chin react to a clean flush shot from Floyd that connects to a wider area of the head with more overall impact?

And, not all the time does it take a heavy punch to knock someone out. Those gloves may be heavier than MMA, but they are compact and damn well hurt when landed clean. They also allow for cleaner and flusher connections, as well as giving the hitter a little more confidence in committing.

Again, this extrapolating from MMA results to what could happen in the ring is a bit off. Conor has 0 pedigree/stats in the ring at pro level.

Also, it's very likely Mayweather KOs Conor from a well placed snappy body shot from either a straight jab through the middle (bit less likely due to Conor being a southpaw), or a right hand through the middle, or a hook....or accumulation body work.

It's going to be deer in the headlights from start to finish for Conor.

He won't knock him out because it is not in the interests of Mayweather and the event for him to knock him out. He could easily stop him at any point by just popping him in the face constantly making his head snap back like it is on a spring and forcing the ref to stop it.

But why do that when you can just dance and carry him for the 12 rounds, create as little damage as possible for both fighters, both walk away with millions of dollars without a scratch on either of them.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

If Floyd genuinely cannot get Conor out of there and wins a clear decision then IMO it's a huge loss for Floyd and a huge win for Conor.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

A Little Pony wrote: »

He won't knock him out because it is not in the interests of Mayweather and the event for him to knock him out. He could easily stop him at any point by just popping him in the face constantly making his head snap back like it is on a spring and forcing the ref to stop it.

But why do that when you can just dance and carry him for the 12 rounds, create as little damage as possible for both fighters, both walk away with millions of dollars without a scratch on either of them.

So a staged exhibition? Yes, I agree, it is a possibility.

I actually commented that it's a chance that nobody gets beaten up or hurt here.

A Little Pony

Gamebred wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

It is funny seeing people talk about tactics or Mcgregor has a chin etc as if any of this has any  relevance. It is just an exhibition. Mayweather is just going to dance with him for 12 rounds and carry him in the fight to the end of the fight to give the crowd and fans a full fight to watch.

It is NOT competitive, Mcgregor has absolutely no chance in hell of winning. It is just a money grab. People will just allow themselves to get carried away talking nonsense about what McGregor can do. McGregor can't do anything. If anyone knows anything about boxing punching in boxing is different from MMA, the stance and range and everything is different.

It's like saying would Messi beat Ronnie O'Sullivan in a snooker match.

Floyd destroying McGregor is a real possibility, another highlight reel and then he can claim he whooped the UFC's best guy ect, its not really in his interests to let it go 12 rounds imo although I do see your point.

I know Floyd is a narcissist but it really doesn't mean anything. As I said it would be like Ronnie O'Sullivan using a highlight reel of him beating Messi in a snooker match. It means absolutely nothing.

A Little Pony

walshb wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

He won't knock him out because it is not in the interests of Mayweather and the event for him to knock him out. He could easily stop him at any point by just popping him in the face constantly making his head snap back like it is on a spring and forcing the ref to stop it.

But why do that when you can just dance and carry him for the 12 rounds, create as little damage as possible for both fighters, both walk away with millions of dollars without a scratch on either of them.

So a staged exhibition? Yes, I agree, it is a possibility.

Of course it is going to be a staged exhibition. Don't waste your money. The press conferences are a different story.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote: »

McGregor has a hell of a chin hes never been dropped by a shot in his life (similar to Floyd as a pro), will be interesting to see if Floyd works the body to get him out there.

Admittedly I dont watch alot of MMA but did Nate Diaz not hit McGregor with a couple of shots that did him in. He may not have hit the floor after the hit but those punches ended the fight if i remember correctly? As in Diaz then got the choke hold on?

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Morrison J wrote: »

Quigley was trolling to be fair. Basically admitted so on Twitter.

That explains the stupidity of the claim so.

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

walshb wrote: »

I don't believe anything. That is my whole point, and until the event happens/finishes nobody should.

It's a novelty act. The very nature of it will arouse suspicion. If people cannot see this then good luck..

walshb wrote: »

I can't be clearer.

Anyone being really confident/certain that this is all legit and above board where both me are free to try their best to win within the rules IMO are being a little naive.

Not saying it won't turn out to be the case, just that the fact i's a novelty act should arouse suspicion.

walshb wrote: »

But don't you know that anyone having suspicions about this event is deluded?

So, what you're saying is:

I will wait and see the fight before alleging it was a conspiracy, a fix, a rigged fight.

You clearly know absolutely zero about Floyd Mayweather if you believe he is *somehow* willing to sacrifice a perfect career record to go 49-1 against an 0-0 boxer.

Also, saying it's a "novelty act" is stupid. The only "novelty" involved is that Conor isn't a boxer. They are still going to be winging punches at each other in a 20x20 foot ring with a referee, judges and an athletic commission.

Walshb Translation:

If Conor wins or lands a few good punches or it goes the distance, it was a fix.

At least grow a pair of balls. If you think it's going to be a rigged/fixed fight, step up and say it beforehand.

You're twisting yourself into a pretzel so you can absolutely refuse to give Conor any credit whatsoever if he performs well.