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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    A little video for all the 'experts' in here who dismissed me when I told them categorically Conor would fight primarily from his karate stance.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    A little video for all the 'experts' in here who dismissed me when I told them categorically Conor would fight primarily from his karate stance.



    I cant remember but didnt people just say he would be stupid to fight that way ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    A little video for all the 'experts' in here who dismissed me when I told them categorically Conor would fight primarily from his karate stance.


    Hold on. You said Conor would "fight" Paulie from the karate stance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    I see Conor was asked was he going to bet on himself like Floyd. He dodged the question .

    He must not think he is going to win after all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,949 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Floyd via DQ
    I'm no expert but surely you can't reinvent the wheel , Id imagine if a Karate stance worked at this stage after a couple of hundred years of boxing people would be have figured out to use it while boxing,
    If you think about the hundreds of pro boxers you've seen in your lifetime and not one uses it , Would it make you think that no one has realised how great it is or  that it doesn't work or isn't the best option


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Floyd via DQ
    A little video for all the 'experts' in here who dismissed me when I told them categorically Conor would fight primarily from his karate stance.


    I have been converted:D Conor will bamboozle him with his karate stance, Floyd won't see the shots coming:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,808 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    pirlo80 wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Te-cbuOu0

    Andy Lee summing it up perfectly

    "A good kid in a gym".

    haha. True.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Floyd via DQ
    pirlo80 wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Te-cbuOu0

    Andy Lee summing it up perfectly

    This video was on auto play after andys one

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_LHWVkySY0Y

    And the below is taken from the comments

    Our hemp smoking friend here is delusional. The only way Floyd loses is if he dies during the walk to the ring. I am so sick of these idiots and weirdos


    I'm gonna miss this thread and wonderfullife after this weekend - it's lolz gold - and it just keeps on giving


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    The Nal wrote: »
    "A good kid in a gym".

    haha. True.

    He's bitter that McGregor is the biggest name in Irish boxing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Floyd via DQ
    blade1 wrote: »
    A bit rich from Andy to be going on about having he's chin high!

    True, but Andy has the fundamental skills and his head isn't a stationary target. They probably don't want Andy on sky cause he tells as it is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    He's bitter that McGregor is the biggest name in Irish boxing.

    Well he's lost less fights than Lee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    Well he's lost less fights than Lee.

    Undefeated :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    He's bitter that McGregor is the biggest name in Irish boxing.

    :D

    Or he could be just calling it as it is?

    His honesty irritating some....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    He's bitter that McGregor is the biggest name in Irish boxing.

    Absolute rubbish. Did you miss the segment where he said he wished Conor would win.
    He just gave his honest opinion of where Conor is at in terms of his boxing ability. Andy Lee comes across as a gentleman, the polar opposite of a narrow individual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    He's bitter that McGregor is the biggest name in Irish boxing.

    So Gerry, I'm assuming you have seen floyd's bag work the last couple of weeks, and Conor's - honest question, do you see any difference?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Undefeated :-)

    Until Saturday night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    I cant remember but didnt people just say he would be stupid to fight that way ?

    No. They said he would fight like a boxer.

    I see Conor was asked was he going to bet on himself like Floyd. He dodged the question .

    He must not think he is going to win after all

    He didn't bet on himself in any of his last 6 fights, at least not publicly, and he won 5 of them.
    If you think about the hundreds of pro boxers you've seen in your lifetime and not one uses it , Would it make you think that no one has realised how great it is or  that it doesn't work or isn't the best option

    Almost nobody in boxing uses Lomachenko's pivot to behind his opponent to land hooks when the opponent swivels. Only really Hector Camacho was able to pull this off in the last 40 years effectively.

    Yet it clearly works.

    Loma' has landed multiple clean shots from behind his opponent. Before anyone mis-reads this post, the point is even skilled boxers are introducing techniques barely seen in the last 50 years and having massive success with them.

    Just because something might go against traditional thinking doesn't mean it can't be effective if you're extremely skilled at it.
    I have been converted:D Conor will bamboozle him with his karate stance, Floyd won't see the shots coming:pac:

    Laugh away. Conor will land accurately and often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    A little video for all the 'experts' in here who dismissed me when I told them categorically Conor would fight primarily from his karate stance.


    Pretty sure people were more arguing against him using it, rather than if he would use it. What was Paulie thinking in a Phily shell against a soutpaw anyway.

    Saw he switched stances...Floyd called that one as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ

    Laugh away. Conor will land accurately and often.

    I cant even begin to imagine how depressed your going to be on Sunday morning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    begbysback wrote: »
    So Gerry, I'm assuming you have seen floyd's bag work the last couple of weeks, and Conor's - honest question, do you see any difference?

    Sorry for my comments towards Lee, he does seem sound.

    Yep I've seen all media possible.

    I give Mayweather a puncher's chance at this stage. It is going to be one of McGregors's easiest fights.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,808 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Some top trolling in this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    Scroll to 13:20 and watch the last 20 seconds of Round 2 against Rocky Martinez.

    Loma TWICE uses tight pivots to get fully behind his opponent. If you pause the footage at 13:56 and 14:05, you'll see Loma is standing right behind a blind opponent and both times lands heavy right hands.

    In the last 50 years of boxing, almost nobody uses this technique, yet as the footage shows it can be extremely effective. It's also why Conor was able to land shots so cleanly on Malignaggi because, despite nobody in boxing using Conor's stance and range, they can still be effective.

    There's more than one way to skin a cat in boxing and you're all being terribly dismissive that the techniques "can't work". Of course they can work. The real question is "for how long?". Even a master like Floyd is going to find it hard to time counters on a southpaw in a bladed karate stance, so the question is how long does it take him to adjust?

    If he adjusts fast, it's bad news for Conor quite clearly.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    The Nal wrote: »
    Some top trolling in this thread.

    I fully understand where that accusation is coming from but let me assure you I am deadly serious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,808 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    I fully understand where that accusation is coming from but let me assure you I am deadly serious.

    I don't believe you. Keep it up though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Sorry for my comments towards Lee, he does seem sound.

    Yep I've seen all media possible.

    I give Mayweather a puncher's chance at this stage. It is going to be one of McGregors's easiest fights.

    Your probably right on it being one of McGregor's easiest fights, I'm sure he'll quit after a round or two when he realises the punishment he'll have to endure to keep going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    I cant even begin to imagine how depressed your going to be on Sunday morning.

    When you live with depression every day of the week, there doesn't tend to be any added or removed when your favourite fighter wins or loses. I'm proud of Conor in victory or defeat.

    All that being said I'd prefer if he wins because it will attract new viewers to the wonderful sport of MMA and that's good :) Regardless of how I feel about Conor as a fan, Floyd is a scumbag who batters women.... So even if it was Jeff Horn fighting him I'd be disappointed if Floyd wins.

    It sort of boggles my mind that many Irish people want the woman-beater to win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    Scroll to 13:20 and watch the last 20 seconds of Round 2 against Rocky Martinez.

    Loma TWICE uses tight pivots to get fully behind his opponent. If you pause the footage at 13:56 and 14:05, you'll see Loma is standing right behind a blind opponent and both times lands heavy right hands.

    In the last 50 years of boxing, almost nobody uses this technique, yet as the footage shows it can be extremely effective. It's also why Conor was able to land shots so cleanly on Malignaggi because, despite nobody in boxing using Conor's stance and range, they can still be effective.

    There's more than one way to skin a cat in boxing and you're all being terribly dismissive that the techniques "can't work". Of course they can work. The real question is "for how long?". Even a master like Floyd is going to find it hard to time counters on a southpaw in a bladed karate stance, so the question is how long does it take him to adjust?

    If he adjusts fast, it's bad news for Conor quite clearly.


    Do you think his 396-1 amateur record in boxing contributed to that?

    Also, showing more footage like this, giving a bit away, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    I fully understand where that accusation is coming from but let me assure you I am deadly serious.

    No, you're not. Just like Conor is not when he says similar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Floyd via DQ

    Laugh away. Conor will land accurately and often.

    He won't. You are misguided. Canelo the best boxer in divison, couldn't do it , so there is no way a novice will do it.
    I hope you will acknowledge this after the fight, that you won't start on about how Conor would win in a "real fight"
    I can see that's the angle/tactic some of those who can't be objective about this will start to use.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    When you live with depression every day of the week, there doesn't tend to be any added or removed when your favourite fighter wins or loses. I'm proud of Conor in victory or defeat.

    All that being said I'd prefer if he wins because it will attract new viewers to the wonderful sport of MMA and that's good :) Regardless of how I feel about Conor as a fan, Floyd is a scumbag who batters women.... So even if it was Jeff Horn fighting him I'd be disappointed if Floyd wins.

    It sort of boggles my mind that many Irish people want the woman-beater to win.

    Are Irish people compelled to support some just because they are Irish? You don't have to support someone because of their nationality.


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