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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • #5402
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,472 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    that's an excellent post.


  • #5403
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Floyd via DQ
    gilmour wrote: »
    This is Vince McMahon stuff

    lol it's actually very funny


  • #5404
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,472 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    I kind of compare this to two "pianists."

    One an internationally recognised concert virtuoso.

    The other a lad who can play chopsticks after a few beers..

    Both vying for the Chopin International...

    Place your bets!


  • #5405
    Avatar MIA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    walshb wrote: »
    I kind of compare this to two "pianists."

    One an internationally recognised concert virtuoso.

    The other a lad who can play chopsticks after a few beers..

    Both vying for the Chopin International...

    Place your bets!

    It reminds me of the saying, the best sword fighter in the world doesn't fear the second best sword fighter in the world. He fears the non conformer.

    It's the unpredictability of McGregor that makes this interesting.


  • #5406
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,472 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Avatar MIA wrote: »

    It's the unpredictability of McGregor that makes this interesting.

    That's the line a lot of people are trying to sell. It's bull.

    In this case there is nothing unpredictable in the real sense as regards success or competitiveness.

    Conor can be as disjointed and unpredictable as he likes. Won't give him any real chance of victory, so the whole point is moot.


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  • #5407
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Conor via DQ
    Boxing needs MMA, it's a **** sport otherwise. One half decent fight every hundred.


  • #5408
    Fall_Guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Fall_Guy


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    I kind of compare this to two "pianists."

    One an internationally recognised concert virtuoso.

    The other a lad who can play chopsticks after a few beers..

    Both vying for the Chopin International...

    Place your bets!

    Look, the gulf in skill is massive in a boxing sense. And Floyd is rightly being regarded as a massive favourite by those in the boxing community, while being remarkably good value on the betting exchanges.

    BUT these sort of analogies are off the mark because in that case there is absolutely zero chance of the drunken chopsticks player outperforming the piano prodigy.

    Two good fighters (one much better than the other in the main range of fighting that this fight will be contested) will be throwing punches at each other. And great fighters have been beaten by people that on paper didn't have the right to be in the ring with them before. And while it is very unlikely that Conor will do what for some strange reason wonderfulllife seems increasingly confident he will do, the chance that he might just somehow do it is enough for us all to be glued to our sceeens on Sunday morning.

    Unlike your Chopin international analogy, you just NEVER know for sure.

    I fully expect Floyd to shatter any semblance of hope that I have for McGregor to do something amazing in quite devastating fashion, but the inkling that he might not is more than enough for me to be looking forward to Sunday mornings madness for what it is.

    And even the people who have been moaning about the fight solidly for months on boards now have probably gotten far more than their €25 worth of entertainment out of their neverending back-and-forths on these threads in the build up to the fight!

    Mad and all as it is, I actually can't wait for it at this point. Give into it. Come Monday you can go back to the build-up for the Canelo-GGG fight....I wonder which thread will have more posts in it from the boxing purists by both their respective bell times!


  • #5409
    The real mccoy 91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭The real mccoy 91


    Floyd via DQ
    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    Boxing needs MMA, it's a **** sport otherwise. One half decent fight every hundred.

    :confused::confused::confused:


  • #5410
    Maravilla33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Maravilla33


    Floyd via DQ
    It's hard to find an analogy that quite nails the mountain that is ahead of McGregor. Imagine some guy arrives on the squash scene and starts winning everything. He is blowing people way, we've never seen a player quite like this. He's only 21, the fittest, quickest, hardest hitting squash player there has ever been.

    Now put him in a tennis match on grass vs Roger Federer. Eh but they both use a racket, he's younger.........


  • #5411
    Too Tough To Die
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Floyd via DQ
    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I wonder if boxing fans feel their sport is being brought in to disrepute with this "fight".

    Not at all. Mental sh1t is always happening in boxing.


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  • #5412
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    StringerBell wrote: »
    Mostly it's when people make the somewhat outlandish claim that he will knock mayweather out inside a round etc with absolutely nothing yo back it up that irks some people I think.

    It isn't guaranteed mayweather wins but I would check outside to make sure the sky isn't falling if he doesnt.

    He us 40 yes, but he us not a regular 40 year old, he has been boxing training since he was able to walk and hasn't been out of shape a day in his life, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke and has 30 years boxing experience including I think 22 world title fights to fall back on if he does begin to feel it physically. I doubt he does though as he is legitimately in better shape boxing cardio wise the McGregor is so if one fighter is going to feel the pace and flag i know who i think it will be.

    His reactions are slightly slower, but he is not facing a man with lightning hand speed, excellent movement/footwork or a guy with a top inside game where he will have little time to react.

    McGregor is going to make this fight as rough as he can, and he is going to be getting punched in the gut all the while he is doing that, this will take its toll even if it appears he is having some early success, personally I doubt he has much early success anyway but still gets tagged often.

    His trailing hand not being in a protective spot while he throws punches could lead to him getting tagged an awful lot and probably right on the chin too which will be a serious test of his beard. Again this is something of habit and even if he remembers to keep his hand up protecting early it us very hard to not fall back into habit, into muscle memory when fighting.

    Mayweather has all the skill advantages even at the age of 40, McGregor was gassed fighting heavy bags after about 5 rounds in one of the training vids, this leads me to believe mayweather is also the better conditioned going into the bout and heavy bags don't punch back.

    Went on a bit longer then I intended here I'll leave it there.



    I was at a Q&A with Floyd in the UK a while ago . He said he was sick before one of his biggest fights ( wouldnt say who ) and gassed in the 3rd round.

    I think he will be ok if he gets tired against Conor


  • #5413
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Maravilla33 wrote:
    Now put him in a tennis match on grass vs Roger Federer. Eh but they both use a racket, he's younger.........

    Nothing like that as he wouldn't have been training tennis on grass his whole life.


  • #5414
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Floyd via DQ
    The real mccoy 91 wrote: »
    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    Boxing needs MMA, it's a **** sport otherwise. One half decent fight every hundred.

    :confused::confused::confused:
    Boxing is flying at the moment , you have this fight which is boxing  you have the even more anticipated Canelo V GGG in a few weeks and a few more super fights later in the year  plus we already had AJ v Klit ,
    Now MMA is the sport on the down McGregor is its only current star and he has come to box,
    Jon Jones just tested positive, Rousey is gone, Lesnar is gone, McGregor is there only draw at the moment ,Ever since UFC was sold its been on the down turn,
    You even have McGregor saying he will take further boxing matches as he can now see where the cash is,


  • #5415
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    Boxing needs MMA, it's a **** sport otherwise. One half decent fight every hundred.

    Stop messing!


  • #5416
    Jerichoholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Boxing is flying at the moment , you have this fight which is boxing  you have the even more anticipated Canelo V GGG in a few weeks

    LOL


  • #5417
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Boxing is flying at the moment , you have this fight which is boxing  you have the even more anticipated Canelo V GGG in a few weeks and a few more super fights later in the year  plus we already had AJ v Klit ,
    Now MMA is the sport on the down McGregor is its only current star and he has come to box,
    Jon Jones just tested positive, Rousey is gone, Lesnar is gone, McGregor is there only draw at the moment ,Ever since UFC was sold its been on the down turn,
    You even have McGregor saying he will take further boxing matches as he can now see where the cash is,

    They should stop letting them roll around on the floor with each other .


  • #5418
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    Lads can we leave out the boxing vs mma ****e, because that's all it is. They're two combat sports and most people who enjoy one enjoy the other. Boxing is obviously much bigger as it's been around for much longer. UFC is trying to grow and compete with boxing but its never going to be one or the other. The two can exist simultaneously.

    In other news I see the big money is coming in on Floyd now, massive amounts bet. Paddy was smart in paying out early. Average bet size on McGregor $212, Average bet size on Mayweather $8,000, roughly speaking. 70% of the money is on Mayweather at this moment Vegas expects that to be closer to 80% come the actual fight.


  • #5419
    Maravilla33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Maravilla33


    Floyd via DQ
    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Nothing like that as he wouldn't have been training tennis on grass his whole life.

    He'd be training at hitting a ball with a racket his whole life. That might sound like a crude comparison but McGregor's boxing skills will be on that low a level in comparison to an elite boxer. He has been training to punch people in a far different environment to a boxing ring. He's a quality striker MMA wise but he's going to look slow and novicey in a boxing ring, I have never been so sure of a sporting event.

    Boxing is great, MMA is great, we all have big mickeys, no agenda here. It's just common sense.


  • #5420
    xtal191
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    https://twitter.com/Michael_Buffer/status/900764041513115648


  • #5421
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Floyd via DQ
    Anyone else thinks that the Ref may be quick to stop this if Conor get into any kind of  danger,
    He may be under pressure from the commission seen as they are allowing a man with zero fights face one of the best ever, Surely they will get a big back lash if Floyd knocks Conor silly for even allowing the fight, I know it may not happen but its worth thinking about,
    If Conor gets stopped in a bad way early a lot of people will be asking questions of there judgement ,
    On another note I heard Kenny Eagan talk about how Conor looks easy to hit in MMA and how if he was easy hit by Diaz and Mendes that a proper boxer will do it with ease .
    Went on to say he rewatched Diaz v McGregor 2 and noticed how many kicks Conor threw as he needed Diaz to worry about the kicks before his boxing became effective


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  • #5422
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Anyone else thinks that the Ref may be quick to stop this if Conor get into any kind of  danger,
    He may be under pressure from the commission seen as they are allowing a man with zero fights face one of the best ever, Surely they will get a big back lash if Floyd knocks Conor silly for even allowing the fight, I know it may not happen but its worth thinking about,
    If Conor gets stopped in a bad way early a lot of people will be asking questions of there judgement ,
    On another note I heard Kenny Eagan talk about how Conor looks easy to hit in MMA and how if he was easy hit by Diaz and Mendes that a proper boxer will do it with ease .
    Went on to say he rewatched Diaz v McGregor 2 and noticed how many kicks Conor threw as he needed Diaz to worry about the kicks before his boxing became effective


    Yeah i read an article on it yesterday . Ref stops it too quick . Conor and his corner are enraged . He keeps face and goes back to UFC with his rep intact.


  • #5423
    Feckoffcup
    Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭Feckoffcup


    Floyd could knock him out in 20 seconds if he wanted to. But he's probably told to make it longer


  • #5424
    hbhook
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    I'm not sure why people think the sport of boxing loses on this. The main event is an exhibition fair enough. It's Floyd 'Least risk/most reward' Mayweather. Fans who've been watching both sports know what this is. It would be different if it was W. Klitschko trying to sell a fight against a novice.

    The rest of the card is boxing. Gervonta Davis looks like he'll be a star and he's gonna get exposure. Badou Jack v Cleverly will be entertaining to the average Joe.

    I watched part of an interview this morning where a journalistic asks D White about Floyd saying something along the lines of Mc may have to use an IV!!!


  • #5425
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Conor via DQ
    Jerichoholic wrote: »
    LOL

    Boxing is muck in fairness. Dancing around, no actual fighting. Except the rare cases like the Joshua fight.

    MMA is no more on the down LOL.


  • #5426
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
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    Conor via DQ
    xtal191 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Michael_Buffer/status/900764041513115648

    FFS its a sporting event, get some perspective. Don't watch if you're not interested.


  • #5427
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Fall_Guy wrote: »

    Unlike your Chopin international analogy, you just NEVER know for sure.

    I was going for a little embellishment.


  • #5428
    blade1
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    Draw
    xtal191 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Michael_Buffer/status/900764041513115648
    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    FFS its a sporting event, get some perspective. Don't watch if you're not interested.

    Jimmy Lennon Jr. FTW!!!!!!!!

    That Michael Buffer is a right pain in the hole!!
    He thinks he's The Hoff or someone!!:pac:


  • #5429
    pirlo80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 ✭pirlo80


    Floyd via DQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Te-cbuOu0

    Andy Lee summing it up perfectly


  • #5430
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Keeping in mind it would need to be kept close for a possible sequel to sell, Mayweather to go down and win at 8/9 /1 could be interesting


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  • #5431
    blade1
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    Draw
    pirlo80 wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Te-cbuOu0

    Andy Lee summing it up perfectly

    A bit rich from Andy to be going on about having he's chin high!


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