[New Development] Rathmill Green, Rathcoole

Mitten30

Hello,

Just wondering has anyone any interest or looked at the new developments in Rathmill Green, Rathcoole? Interested to hear any opinions or views?

Thanks!

Michael D Not Higgins

Hi OP, I've split your posts to two threads to discuss the two different developments.

Aph2016

Do you mean Rathmill manor?

Michael D Not Higgins

Aph2016 wrote: »

Do you mean Rathmill manor?

Rathmill Green appears to be one of the roads within that development.

2tek

Any one knows anything about this development? Deposited a few weeks back, yet to get a contract.

Rathsar

Hi we also paid deposit a few days back.Waiting for the next stage.

2tek

Any updates, no contracts yet

Premier!

Hi all,

Just put a deposit on a house in rathmill manor last week. Just looking to chat to others in similar situation! Looks like you are waiting on contracts? How does that affect the deal where you get all your appliances included if you return the contract within a month of paying booking deposit? not your fault if they don't send out the contracts!

Also, I just received a receipt for the booking deposit and on it it says "subject to planning" beside the acknowledgement of receipt of deposit for the specific house. Did any of you have this and does it mean full planning permission has not been granted yet?!

Angelababy

Premier! wrote: »

Hi all,

Just put a deposit on a house in rathmill manor last week. Just looking to chat to others in similar situation! Looks like you are waiting on contracts? How does that affect the deal where you get all your appliances included if you return the contract within a month of paying booking deposit? not your fault if they don't send out the contracts!

Also, I just received a receipt for the booking deposit and on it it says "subject to planning" beside the acknowledgement of receipt of deposit for the specific house. Did any of you have this and does it mean full planning permission has not been granted yet?!

I have it receipt the same even though mine is built. Can I just ask do you know these semidetached house without garden which should called town house or not?

conormc1984

Hi folks.

Could you please let me know is there a price lists for these ?

Premier!

conormc1984 wrote: »

Hi folks.

Could you please let me know is there a price lists for these ?

1850 sq ft 4 bed semi 379,000

Not 100% sure of the rest but think 3 bed is pretty much the same price as it's the same sq footage.

Nicest houses I've seen to be honest. Was looking at Citywest village but prefer these location wise and size wise.

Premier!

Angelababy wrote: »

I have it receipt the same even though mine is built. Can I just ask do you know these semidetached house without garden which should called town house or not?

I'm sorry I don't know of any houses without a garden?

Premier!

Has anyone bought on Rathmill Meadows? Interested to meet our new neighbours ��

Angelababy

Premier! wrote: »

I'm sorry I don't know of any houses without a garden?

I actually mean the houses without front garden and with small back garden. Are these kind of semi-detached houses called semi or townhouse ?

Thanks a mill

Angelababy

Premier! wrote: »

Has anyone bought on Rathmill Meadows? Interested to meet our new neighbours ��

I put deposit on Rathmill green

Angelababy

Premier! wrote: »

Has anyone bought on Rathmill Meadows? Interested to meet our new neighbours ��

When would your house be ready to move in? Is it with front garden?

Premier!

None of them have a front garden but ours does have a front drive. Some of the houses do not, instead they have car spaces on the road or across the road I think. Haven't received contract yet so do not have estimated completion date but I'd imagine it will be well into next year

Angelababy

Premier! wrote: »

None of them have a front garden but ours does have a front drive. Some of the houses do not, instead they have car spaces on the road or across the road I think. Haven't received contract yet so do not have estimated completion date but I'd imagine it will be well into next year

Do you think the houses without drive is a disadvantage? Is it hard to resell in the future? Thanks a mill

MACKER8584

Premier! wrote: »

Has anyone bought on Rathmill Meadows? Interested to meet our new neighbours ��

Hi Premier,
I put down a deposit on Rathmill Meadows. Now for the long wait.

I see they put the price up this weekend though

FutureJD

Premier! wrote: »

Has anyone bought on Rathmill Meadows? Interested to meet our new neighbours ��

MACKER8584 wrote: »

Hi Premier,
I put down a deposit on Rathmill Meadows. Now for the long wait.

I see they put the price up this weekend though

Hi Premier, MACKER,

I've put down a deposit for Rathmill Meadows, looking forward to meeting my new neighbours too!

Premier!

MACKER8584 wrote: »

Hi Premier,
I put down a deposit on Rathmill Meadows. Now for the long wait.

I see they put the price up this weekend though

Hi Macker,

Ya I noticed that, have you a contract signed already at the lower price? We don't so I don't know what we'll be paying yet! Hopefully the higher price is just for the next lot of houses being released, that might be wishful thinking though! Have you been given any indication as to when you're house will be ready?

Premier!

FutureJD wrote: »

Hi Premier, MACKER,

I've put down a deposit for Rathmill Meadows, looking forward to meeting my new neighbours too!

Hi Future!

Good to hear! Have you signed any contracts yet? We paid our deposit a month ago and supposedly if you sign the contract within a month you get all the appliances included but if they don't send out the contract within a month what are you supposed to do?! Presume they can't be strict on that!

xpletiv

If youve signed a contract surely you are entitled to the lower price, or the price when you signed?

The 'appliances when you sign' seems like such a damn scam. Ive heard of this a lot; even those that sign it and get it to the developers solicitor don;t get it cause their solicitor doesnt get through it quickly enough, time elapses, and so not verified within the timeframe.

BTW, showings this weekend on this estate.

Premier!

xpletiv wrote: »

If youve signed a contract surely you are entitled to the lower price, or the price when you signed?

The 'appliances when you sign' seems like such a damn scam. Ive heard of this a lot; even those that sign it and get it to the developers solicitor don;t get it cause their solicitor doesnt get through it quickly enough, time elapses, and so not verified within the timeframe.

BTW, showings this weekend on this estate.

Oh ya if you've signed the contract at the lower price that's the price you'll pay. I just haven't got the contract to sign yet so not sure what the story will be! Have you bought there too?

xpletiv

No i have not, I am looking nearby, but I am heavily considering checking out the show house this weekend, as I am not 100% on the one im looking at nearby.

MACKER8584

Premier! wrote: »

Hi Macker,

Ya I noticed that, have you a contract signed already at the lower price? We don't so I don't know what we'll be paying yet! Hopefully the higher price is just for the next lot of houses being released, that might be wishful thinking though! Have you been given any indication as to when you're house will be ready?

Hi Premier and Future,
Look forward to meeting you both.

Our solicitor received the contracts a couple of weeks back. I have signed the contract and sent it back with the deposit and mortgage loan offer to them. I'm waiting for it back signed by them now.

I'm hoping the same that they don't put it up now on us and you guys. It would look bad on their part if they renegotiated now.

As for the white goods, my understanding is that it's 4 weeks from the date your solicitor gets the contracts, not from when you put down the deposit.

I'll go and speak to the rep in the house tho. He's a nice guy and very straight.

There is also no date on the contracts when the house will be ready by as its weather depending. Hopefully it's a good winter. I am expecting end of June start of July.

Premier!

MACKER8584 wrote: »

Hi Premier and Future,
Look forward to meeting you both.

Our solicitor received the contracts a couple of weeks back. I have signed the contract and sent it back with the deposit and mortgage loan offer to them. I'm waiting for it back signed by them now.

I'm hoping the same that they don't put it up now on us and you guys. It would look bad on their part if they renegotiated now.

As for the white goods, my understanding is that it's 4 weeks from the date your solicitor gets the contracts, not from when you put down the deposit.

I'll go and speak to the rep in the house tho. He's a nice guy and very straight.

There is also no date on the contracts when the house will be ready by as its weather depending. Hopefully it's a good winter. I am expecting end of June start of July.

Thanks for the reply Macker,

Ya fingers crossed they don't up the price for us! That would make much more sense if it was four weeks from when solicitor receives contracts.

We would be expecting around the same time frame all going well, think 10 months is fairly standard barring major delays.

Houses are still €379k on daft?

Premier!

Deleted User wrote: »

Houses are still €379k on daft?

http://www.daft.ie/dublin/new-homes-for-sale/rathmill-manor-rathcoole-dublin-89443/

Premier!

Premier! wrote: »

http://www.daft.ie/dublin/new-homes-for-sale/rathmill-manor-rathcoole-dublin-89443/

Thanks, didn't see that ad and there are still ads with the €379 price that are coming up from a Google search.

I note the mail we got from the estate agents states "we are pleased to offer x house at Rathmill manor for €379000" then goes on to give you the list of actions.

TThere's probably an argument that this is an official offer and that completion of the actions amounts to a valid acceptance so they would have to honour the terms of the offer.

There'd certainly be enough to make a stink about :-)

Premier!

Deleted User wrote: »

Thanks, didn't see that ad and there are still ads with the €379 price that are coming up from a Google search.

I note the mail we got from the estate agents states "we are pleased to offer x house at Rathmill manor for €379000" then goes on to give you the list of actions.

TThere's probably an argument that this is an official offer and that completion of the actions amounts to a valid acceptance so they would have to honour the terms of the offer.

There'd certainly be enough to make a stink about :-)

Ya I had thought about that too. Though the same mail also mentions "without obligation on either party until such time as a formal contract is exchanged by both the vendor and purchaser and deposit paid" which I'd imagine they would be quick to interpret in their favour!

Anyway we don't know yet I guess! I'm trying to find out if my contract has been sent out yet, solicitor is on hols and can't seem to get talking to the right person in Cavan Dev!

MACKER8584

Premier! wrote: »

Ya I had thought about that too. Though the same mail also mentions "without obligation on either party until such time as a formal contract is exchanged by both the vendor and purchaser and deposit paid" which I'd imagine they would be quick to interpret in their favour!

Anyway we don't know yet I guess! I'm trying to find out if my contract has been sent out yet, solicitor is on hols and can't seem to get talking to the right person in Cavan Dev!

Hey, yeah. Unfortunately until contracts are signed they could do whatever they feel like. I would hope anyone that has put down there deposit and got receipt then would stick to that and be honourable but you never know.

Did you try mail sales at cavandev ie as that's who I have dealt with. Seem good to reply.

Do you know what number in rathmill meadows you have put a deposit on?

Premier!

MACKER8584 wrote: »

Hey, yeah. Unfortunately until contracts are signed they could do whatever they feel like. I would hope anyone that has put down there deposit and got receipt then would stick to that and be honourable but you never know.

Did you try mail sales at cavandev ie as that's who I have dealt with. Seem good to reply.

Do you know what number in rathmill meadows you have put a deposit on?

Ya hopefully! Ya we have no. 2. It's the first one in the row.

MACKER8584

Premier! wrote: »

Ya hopefully! Ya we have no. 2. It's the first one in the row.

Good stuff, I'm two doors down in #6

Premier!

MACKER8584 wrote: »

Good stuff, I'm two doors down in #6

See you some time next year so! 😂

FutureJD

Premier! wrote: »

Hi Future!

Good to hear! Have you signed any contracts yet? We paid our deposit a month ago and supposedly if you sign the contract within a month you get all the appliances included but if they don't send out the contract within a month what are you supposed to do?! Presume they can't be strict on that!

Not yet. Our solicitor has received the contracts though, we should be good to sign pretty soon.

MACKER8584 wrote: »

I'll go and speak to the rep in the house tho. He's a nice guy and very straight.

Yeah, he's a nice guy to deal with. Gave us a fair share of his time over the few viewings we had and knew his stuff.

TBH the price increase isn't on my mind, I'm happy enough that I'm sale agreed at the previous price and it looks like the new price is on the next phase of houses coming to market.

Definitely fingers crossed for a good winter, at least we'll have plenty of time to think about kitchens and interior finishes!

Cob_123

Hi,

We also bought in Rathmill Green, we've sent signed contracts to cavan dev and are waiting for them to send back. Has anyone received signed contracts yet?

Also any idea if they've broken ground? It's hard to see from the road!

Premier!

Cob_123 wrote: »

Hi,

We also bought in Rathmill Green, we've sent signed contracts to cavan dev and are waiting for them to send back. Has anyone received signed contracts yet?

Also any idea if they've broken ground? It's hard to see from the road!

Was on the site last week and they haven't broken ground on the rathmill meadows houses anyway. Most of the rathmill green ones are under construction though

Cob_123

Great thanks. Which part of the estate is Rathmill Meadows? My map just details Rathmill Green.

Premier!

Cob_123 wrote: »

Great thanks. Which part of the estate is Rathmill Meadows? My map just details Rathmill Green.

Bottom left hand corner is Rathmill meadows

Have any of you guys had any concern expressed by your solicitors that the builders contracts have a clause that entitles them to keep the full 10% deposit if, for whatever reason, your bank decides to withdraw funding between now and when the house is built?

Premier!

Deleted User wrote: »

Have any of you guys had any concern expressed by your solicitors that the builders contracts have a clause that entitles them to keep the full 10% deposit if, for whatever reason, your bank decides to withdraw funding between now and when the house is built?

We haven't met with our solicitor yet, meeting him next week but that sounds concerning alright. But our guy said he will be putting in clauses of his own to basically say the opposite i.e if for some reason we lose funding we get the whole deposit back. He said there is usually some negotiations required before final contract is agreed. He said for new builds, where there is usually a long time between signing contracts and actually drawing down the mortgage, it's common for mortgage offers to lapse/expire and while its usually just a case of reapplying, sometimes if circumstances change you may not be offered the mortgage again.

FutureJD

Deleted User wrote: »

Have any of you guys had any concern expressed by your solicitors that the builders contracts have a clause that entitles them to keep the full 10% deposit if, for whatever reason, your bank decides to withdraw funding between now and when the house is built?

Yeah, our solicitor flagged this to us too. We haven't signed yet but hopefully will get the clause removed or reach some kind of compromise first.

Premier!

Premier! wrote: »

We haven't met with our solicitor yet, meeting him next week but that sounds concerning alright. But our guy said he will be putting in clauses of his own to basically say the opposite i.e if for some reason we lose funding we get the whole deposit back. He said there is usually some negotiations required before final contract is agreed. He said for new builds, where there is usually a long time between signing contracts and actually drawing down the mortgage, it's common for mortgage offers to lapse/expire and while its usually just a case of reapplying, sometimes if circumstances change you may not be offered the mortgage again.

Your solicitor is right and that clause is one which has been recommended to be inserted by the law society.

The problem is that its not compulsory and the builders solicitor is refusing it which leave us exposed. They can say accept it or ffck off and return your deposit and I know from a contact that that is what is happening.

So we do have to accept or move on. I guess the question to ask yourself is whether there is any reason that your circumstances might change when you re-apply for the mortgage. Or whether the economy will collapse between now and then!! (It won't)

Premier!

Premier! wrote: »

Hmmm, we're in a slightly more complicated position again because the bank won't actually issue the full loan offer to us until my wife completes her probationary period in work in November so we are trying to pay deposit without a full mortgage offer. They have said they don't see any problem in getting the full offer in November but you never know! I'd be happy to accept the risk of the funding being withdrawn, but we would need to be protected if for some reason we didn't get the full offer in the first place in November.

These things ain't easy!

We're going to accept the risk, which the solicitor is obliged to recommend against, based up our confidence in the economy and because we have secure jobs.

Premier!

Meanwhile all the to and fro between solicitors will no doubt mean it takes more than 4 weeks to get it all sorted and then they don't have to include the appliances!

Think we should be safe enough with the appliances if we all act with good faith. So Barry said!
And the solicitor said that's one thing they'd guarantee is that we'd get them

Truth wins

We have signed contracts on rathmill green 9 months ago. Waiting for completion now

Premier! wrote: »

Hi all,

Just put a deposit on a house in rathmill manor last week. Just looking to chat to others in similar situation! Looks like you are waiting on contracts? How does that affect the deal where you get all your appliances included if you return the contract within a month of paying booking deposit? not your fault if they don't send out the contracts!

Also, I just received a receipt for the booking deposit and on it it says "subject to planning" beside the acknowledgement of receipt of deposit for the specific house. Did any of you have this and does it mean full planning permission has not been granted yet?!

Truth wins

2tek wrote: »

Any one knows anything about this development? Deposited a few weeks back, yet to get a contract.

Hi !! We signed the contract for Rathmill green 4 months ago. All white goods included. Waiting for the completion of the houses now.

Truth wins

Deleted User wrote: »

Think we should be safe enough with the appliances if we all act with good faith. So Barry said!
And the solicitor said that's one thing they'd guarantee is that we'd get them

We got our white goods included. Barry is a nice guy to deal with.

MACKER8584

Hey everyone,

I received my contracts signed back from the builders solicitors today.

I look forward to seeing you all soon.