U2 Joshua Tree Tour 2017 / 2019 **No Ticket Sales**

PTH2009

If anyone saw u2s Christmas message they mentioned that 2017 will be a huge year for the band. Songs of Experience will be released and there will be 'special' shows to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the Joshua Tree album

I wonder what and where these JT shows will be played ??. Have a feeling they take place in big cities such as London, Paris, New York, LA, Sydney etc. Obv Dublin could get a show but they might shock people and play a show/shows in the Olympia ( tickets will sell in a flash), maybe those 2 Croke Park shows next summer are saved for u2 ???

lukin

Ha, you beat me to it, was gonna post bout this
If Croker's three concert limit is enforced then two nights is the max they can play because as you say Coldplay have one night taken. Two will not be enough to satisfy demand in my opinion. I think the last two tours that they played in Croker they played three nights. Would it be better to play The Aviva instead?
I have never been to a gig in Croke park but I have been told the sound is crap.

rubadub

lukin wrote: »

Ha, you beat me to it, was gonna post bout this
If Croker's three concert limit is enforced.

In 2014 permission was given for 7 days of non sporting events to happen in croke park, and up to 9 actual events as brooks was permitted 2 gigs on 2 days.

Arthur Daley

Croke park is kinda crap. 2 week residency in the 3arena ftw

The Raptor

rubadub wrote: »

In 2014 permission was given for 7 days of non sporting events to happen in croke park, and up to 9 actual events as brooks was permitted 2 gigs on 2 days.

I don't think he had the license for those two gigs in the one day. It was discussed as an option and based on a new and updated event plan, the council would consider it. So there never was a license was for those two gigs in the one day.

I don't think something on that scale will happen again. I think if they go over the three they have to follow the new concert licensing laws.

I think the council has to have their decision made a month before the event happens. As far as I know the promotors also have to have consultantion meetings if they plan on adding more dates.

Somehow, I'm getting the feeling that there won't be enough time between extra meetings and having their application into the council in time for a summer gig.

You're looking at two more dates for 2017. There won't be anymore.

whiteshorts

I have never been to a gig in Croke park but I have been told the sound is crap.

Depends on where you are in the ground.

You're looking at two more dates for 2017. There won't be anymore.

Would Marley or Slane ever get a shout?
Big capacity and at least there's a "fair" chance of everybody getting a ticket.

SteM

whiteshorts wrote: »

Would Marley or Slane ever get a shout?
Big capacity and at least there's a "fair" chance of everybody getting a ticket.

Sure Marley only holds 32k or so iirc.

PTH2009

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joshua_Tree_Tour

They played 2 dates in Croke Park and 1 date in PUC Cork on the original JT tour. They may play those venues again on the new tour and be the first act too play the new PUC ???

marvin80

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joshua_Tree_Tour

They played 2 dates in Croke Park and 1 date in PUC Cork on the original JT tour. They may play those venues again on the new tour and be the first act too play the new PUC ???

A PUC show would be a massive coup for Cork - be great to see it happen.

PTH2009

marvin80 wrote: »

A PUC show would be a massive coup for Cork - be great to see it happen.

It would rule and really showcase the new stadium. It would sell out no doubt

Hopefully the tour will be announced very soon

Broken Hearted Road

If U2 are to play croke park in summer of 2017, it will be announced by now. No doubt about that. I don't see tickets going on sale in January for gigs to take place for around July. That's a 6 month time frame. The timeframe is usually longer 7/8/9 months+ between ticket sales and gigs taking place.


I reckon if there's any more gigs for Croke park planned for the summer, it will be Garth Brooks taking the other 2 slots. GB over in America likes a short time frame between ticket sales and gigs taking place and I think the time frame is usually 6 weeks. Over here, he doesn't have that much control over that time frame. He does still like the short time frame andthe shortest he will get here will be 6 months. I reckon if there's any news in the next few more weeks about a croke park gig or two, it will be Garth Brooks. Very very doubtful it will be U2.

PTH2009

Broken Hearted Road wrote: »

If U2 are to play croke park in summer of 2017, it will be announced by now. No doubt about that. I don't see tickets going on sale in January for gigs to take place for around July. That's a 6 month time frame. The timeframe is usually longer 7/8/9 months+ between ticket sales and gigs taking place.


I reckon if there's any more gigs for Croke park planned for the summer, it will be Garth Brooks taking the other 2 slots. GB over in America likes a short time frame between ticket sales and gigs taking place and I think the time frame is usually 6 weeks. Over here, he doesn't have that much control over that time frame. He does still like the short time frame andthe shortest he will get here will be 6 months. I reckon if there's any news in the next few more weeks about a croke park gig or two, it will be Garth Brooks. Very very doubtful it will be U2.

On the I&E tour they announced the Irish gigs in September 2015 and they took place November 2015 (about 5 weeks after the ticket sale), Other dates on the tour were announced earlier

The Raptor

PTH2009 wrote: »

On the I&E tour they announced the Irish gigs in September 2015 and they took place November 2015 (about 5 weeks after the ticket sale), Other dates on the tour were announced earlier

It could very well be U2. Or Garth Brooks. But it won't be any more than two nights.

lukin

Broken Hearted Road wrote: »

If U2 are to play croke park in summer of 2017, it will be announced by now. No doubt about that. I don't see tickets going on sale in January for gigs to take place for around July. That's a 6 month time frame. The timeframe is usually longer 7/8/9 months+ between ticket sales and gigs taking place.

That is not correct. The Croke park gigs in July 2009 were announced in March of that year. The June 2005 gigs in Croker were announced in January of that year. So still plenty time.

Birneybau

Why on Earth you didn't say 'Joshua Tree' in the thread title baffles me...

PTH2009

Birneybau wrote: »

Why on Earth you didn't say 'Joshua Tree' in the thread title baffles me...

I was using the mobile site and was too lazy lol

former total

Birneybau wrote: »

Why on Earth you didn't say 'Joshua Tree' in the thread title baffles me...

I got all excited about a U2/Timberlake mash-up show.

What a let down.

rubadub

U2 would likely get more "special treatment" than the likes of that chancing money grabbing prick garth brooks, and I doubt they would try and pull a similar stunt, even far less likely after seeing the debacle he caused. I remember the Taoiseach got involved when U2 wanted 2 gigs in slane.

PTH2009 wrote: »

I was using the mobile site and was too lazy lol

you can edit thread titles by editing the post and clicking "go advanced". I never copped what JT was meant to mean until that recent post.

lukin

rubadub wrote: »

I remember the Taoiseach got involved when U2 wanted 2 gigs in slane.

That happened because Bertie (who was Taoiseach at the time) saw it as an opportunity to make himself popular.

Easterly Beasterly

rubadub wrote: »

U2 would likely get more "special treatment" than the likes of that chancing money grabbing prick garth brooks, and I doubt they would try and pull a similar stunt, even far less likely after seeing the debacle he caused. I remember the Taoiseach got involved when U2 wanted 2 gigs in Slane

U2.. the lads who rip the country of tax revenue at every opportunity? The only special treatment I'd be giving them is a tax bill

The Raptor

rubadub wrote: »

U2 would likely get more "special treatment" than the likes of that chancing money grabbing prick garth brooks, and I doubt they would try and pull a similar stunt, even far less likely after seeing the debacle he caused. I remember the Taoiseach got involved when U2 wanted 2 gigs in slane

Garth was of course being greedy. Its why he turned down 3 gigs. He could have earned himself more than half of what he was meant to get.

Why Tampa, Florida also got cancelled. There was a scheduling conflict at the venue. He could have played two nights there. But he couldn't play one night because of the scheduling conflict, so he didn't play any of them, I think it was 3 nights over there. He didn't want to disappoint anyone. Dublin wasn't any different.

Wish people would stop turning it around onto him. The fault was very much on our side. Those tickets shouldn't have been sold. Not for Croke Park considering the promotors and the council knew about the issues with the locals. They knew there was going to be a backlash.

Dublin city manager even said it himself. The second time the tickets went on sale, they were consulted before they went on sale and he said it himself that he didn't have a problem but there may be some objections.

johnpatrick81

former total wrote: »

I got all excited about a U2/Timberlake mash-up show.

What a let down.

Much better than the John Terry Collaboration I pictured!:eek::pac:

Fortyjocks

The Raptor wrote: »

Garth was of course being greedy. Its why he turned down 3 gigs. He could have earned himself more than half of what he was meant to get.

Why Tampa, Florida also got cancelled. There was a scheduling conflict at the venue. He could have played two nights there. But he couldn't play one night because of the scheduling conflict, so he didn't play any of them, I think it was 3 nights over there. He didn't want to disappoint anyone. Dublin wasn't any different.

Wish people would stop turning it around onto him. The fault was very much on our side. Those tickets shouldn't have been sold. Not for Croke Park considering the promotors and the council knew about the issues with the locals. They knew there was going to be a backlash.

Dublin city manager even said it himself. The second time the tickets went on sale, they were consulted before they went on sale and he said it himself that he didn't have a problem but there may be some objections.

In fairness he should have honoured the 3 gigs he had the go ahead for given originally only two went on sale. People who had tickets, hotels, flights etc for those shows should not have been let down, it was the artist who let those people down & it left a sour taste! Comparing the gigs to picking between his kids was a bit much. lets hope any similar farce is avoided with the remaining 2017 Croke Park gigs whoever is lined up for them.

The Raptor

Fortyjocks wrote: »

In fairness he should have honoured the 3 gigs he had the go ahead for given originally only two went on sale. People who had tickets, hotels, flights etc for those shows should not have been let down, it was the artist who let those people down & it left a sour taste! Comparing the gigs to picking between his kids was a bit much. lets hope any similar farce is avoided with the remaining 2017 Croke Park gigs whoever is lined up for them.

Completely agree. He should have done the three. It was outside issues that was out of his control.

Still doesn't make him greedy for wanting it to be fair. You don't sell tickets and cancel on them. That was very much our fault.

Also, they hadn't an issue leading up to the concerts, safety tests were being passed, etc, etc. To pull the plug at the last minute was stupid. The concerts themselves weren't an issue, so I can see why he would be pissed off that two were cancelled.

weadick

Time for u2 to come back to cork. No excuses now with the new stadium.

PTH2009

weadick wrote: »

Time for u2 to come back to cork. No excuses now with the new stadium.

if they play similar venues to the 1987 Joshua Tree tour than Cork could be included

It would be a massive coup for the city with tickets being like gold. 2 Croke Park shows are a possibility too

saw somewhere that there is a gig announcement on the 5th Jan for the Dodger Stadium in LA, rumours of it being U2

The Raptor

PTH2009 wrote: »

if they play similar venues to the 1987 Joshua Tree tour than Cork could be included

It would be a massive coup for the city with tickets being like gold. 2 Croke Park shows are a possibility too

saw somewhere that there is a gig announcement on the 5th Jan for the Dodger Stadium in LA, rumours of it being U2

If they're playing stadiums in the US, it could be a stadium tour here.

PTH2009

The Raptor wrote: »

If they're playing stadiums in the US, it could be a stadium tour here.

Looking like it

The I&E tour was all arenas so I imagine the arena boat is docked for the moment and stadiums are next

At least ticket prices could be bit lower for stadoums, prices on the I&E tour were horrendous

The Raptor

PTH2009 wrote: »

Looking like it

The I&E tour was all arenas so I imagine the arena boat is docked for the moment and stadiums are next

At least ticket prices could be bit lower for stadoums, prices on the I&E tour were horrendous

Well, if they don't play Croke Park, I don't know. I'm trying to follow each announcement in hope that it could be someone else.

But then I remember when Garth was here in 2014 doing his press conference in Croke Park, he did say that the tour won't be 'here'. I picked up on that as it won't be in Croke Park. Now that the RDS is back in use, it could be there.

rubadub

lukin wrote: »

That happened because Bertie (who was Taoiseach at the time) saw it as an opportunity to make himself popular.

Not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me saying U2 are more likely to get "special treatment". I doubt Bertie would have stuck his nose in if it had been the stereophonics (who headlined slane the year after).

The Raptor wrote: »

Garth was of course being greedy. Its why he turned down 3 gigs. He could have earned himself more than half of what he was meant to get.

Though you are trying to be smart/sarcastic, you are correct, this was proof of his greed. They were claiming doing just 3 concerts was not economically viable.

I very much doubt they would have made a loss, just not made as much as he would liked to have make, so rather than do that he disappoints all those fans. He took a risk to make more money and lost, and all those fans lost due to his greed too.

The Raptor wrote: »

He didn't want to disappoint anyone.

he did though, I can't believe the crap he was spouting at the time, making it out like it was "Sophie's choice" and dragging his dead mother into it, disgusting shameful behaviour. This backfired on him very badly though, since to save face he had to stick to his ultimatum, trying to blackmail/threaten the authorities into allowing it.

The Raptor wrote: »

Wish people would stop turning it around onto him. The fault was very much on our side. Those tickets shouldn't have been sold. Not for Croke Park considering the promotors and the council knew about the issues with the locals..

Do you seriously not think GB knew about issues with the locals?!, do you really think nobody in his camp would have been aware and not told him?!?

The issues U2 had when they had 3 gigs was all over the media, there was huge backlash from residents. As a causal gig goer I was amazed they were planning so many gigs, as I was well aware of the supposed 3 gig limit, before it was being said all over the new again. People in the actual concert industry would have been very much aware. In the early stages of planning for this they were told again of the limits.

He certainly knew of the risk he was taking and so is very much amongst those "at fault".

The Raptor wrote: »

they were consulted before they went on sale and he said it himself that he didn't have a problem but there may be some objections.

Yep, so he took the chance knowing fine well the risk. Pure chancer as I was saying.

weadick

PTH2009 wrote: »

if they play similar venues to the 1987 Joshua Tree tour than Cork could be included

It would be a massive coup for the city with tickets being like gold. 2 Croke Park shows are a possibility too

saw somewhere that there is a gig announcement on the 5th Jan for the Dodger Stadium in LA, rumours of it being U2

Remember there was a couple of lads from Cobh who set up an actual campaign to bring U2 back to Cork, I think it was around the time of Vertigo, they were called Electricco as far as i recall. I remember talking to one of them before who actually met Bono and mentioned it to him to which he replied 'where's the venue?'!

Birneybau

weadick wrote: »

Remember there was a couple of lads from Cobh who set up an actual campaign to bring U2 back to Cork, I think it was around the time of Vertigo, they were called Electricco as far as i recall. I remember talking to one of them before who actually met Bono and mentioned it to him to which he replied 'where's the venue?'!

Where's the cash more like...

The Raptor wrote: »

Garth was of course being greedy. Its why he turned down 3 gigs. He could have earned himself more than half of what he was meant to get.

Why Tampa, Florida also got cancelled. There was a scheduling conflict at the venue. He could have played two nights there. But he couldn't play one night because of the scheduling conflict, so he didn't play any of them, I think it was 3 nights over there. He didn't want to disappoint anyone. Dublin wasn't any different.

Wish people would stop turning it around onto him. The fault was very much on our side. Those tickets shouldn't have been sold. Not for Croke Park considering the promotors and the council knew about the issues with the locals. They knew there was going to be a backlash.

Dublin city manager even said it himself. The second time the tickets went on sale, they were consulted before they went on sale and he said it himself that he didn't have a problem but there may be some objections.

Fortyjocks wrote: »

In fairness he should have honoured the 3 gigs he had the go ahead for given originally only two went on sale. People who had tickets, hotels, flights etc for those shows should not have been let down, it was the artist who let those people down & it left a sour taste! Comparing the gigs to picking between his kids was a bit much. lets hope any similar farce is avoided with the remaining 2017 Croke Park gigs whoever is lined up for them.

The Raptor wrote: »

Completely agree. He should have done the three. It was outside issues that was out of his control.

Still doesn't make him greedy for wanting it to be fair. You don't sell tickets and cancel on them. That was very much our fault.

Also, they hadn't an issue leading up to the concerts, safety tests were being passed, etc, etc. To pull the plug at the last minute was stupid. The concerts themselves weren't an issue, so I can see why he would be pissed off that two were cancelled.

How it ended up about this plonker is beyond me, take it to the relevant thread.

The Raptor

Birneybau wrote: »

Where's the cash more like...







How it ended up about this plonker is beyond me, take it to the relevant thread.

To be fair I was stating exactly what happened when rubadub wanted to say how greedy that plonker was. They said 9 events were permitted in 2014. 9 including 2 concerts per day.

Except there never was a license for those two in one day. The council said they would consider it based on an updated event management plan. None of it worked out, so they never allowed 9 events that year. They did allow 7.

The Raptor

rubadub wrote: »

Not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me saying U2 are more likely to get "special treatment". I doubt Bertie would have stuck his nose in if it had been the stereophonics (who headlined slane the year after).


Though you are trying to be smart/sarcastic, you are correct, this was proof of his greed. They were claiming doing just 3 concerts was not economically viable.

I very much doubt they would have made a loss, just not made as much as he would liked to have make, so rather than do that he disappoints all those fans. He took a risk to make more money and lost, and all those fans lost due to his greed too.

he did though, I can't believe the crap he was spouting at the time, making it out like it was "Sophie's choice" and dragging his dead mother into it, disgusting shameful behaviour. This backfired on him very badly though, since to save face he had to stick to his ultimatum, trying to blackmail/threaten the authorities into allowing it.

Do you seriously not think GB knew about issues with the locals?!, do you really think nobody in his camp would have been aware and not told him?!?

The issues U2 had when they had 3 gigs was all over the media, there was huge backlash from residents. As a causal gig goer I was amazed they were planning so many gigs, as I was well aware of the supposed 3 gig limit, before it was being said all over the new again. People in the actual concert industry would have been very much aware. In the early stages of planning for this they were told again of the limits.

He certainly knew of the risk he was taking and so is very much amongst those "at fault".


Yep, so he took the chance knowing fine well the risk. Pure chancer as I was saying.

Do you not think it was the promotors fault for allowing it. It was them that knew what was going on with the locals. Aiken would have surely have known after 2009. Sure the council even said it to them when tickets went on sale for Garth Brooks.

Or do all acts research what's going around in the locality of each place they play? But then based on the last time, gig goers should have researched about local issues as well.

When did anyone think they want a ticket but before they get into an online queue, they better research the neighbours.

PTH2009

http://u2chile.net/web/rumor-anuncio-del-tour-2017-enero/

translate to English on your browser

Live Nation and U2 are expected to announce a new tour on Monday 9th Jan

Graham1978

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U2 will play in Barcelona again next July

Barcelona is once again the only Spanish city chosen by the Irish band to offer their new show. Until the next Monday, when the official tour announcement will take place, just a few details are known. In a message that the group posted on social networks on Christmas Day, the band announced that 2017 would be a great year for U2 with the release of the high anticipated "Songs of Experience" and the 30th anniversary of "The Joshua Tree.” Last part of the message gave hope to U2 fans around the world ... "with some very special shows".

From that moment, rumors and speculations were on fire. Everything seems to indicate that the tour will adopt the "format stadiums" and that it will start in the United States in May and will continue through the old continent in July. It is unknown the number of shows, the cities, how the show is going to be, ….. As we say, the official announcement will take place next Monday January 9th as U2Chile and the always reliable american website @U2 mentioned yesterday. We have been known that the announcement will indeed be on the 9th around noon (Spanish time) to coincide with the morning in North America.

Regarding the USA tour, @U2 mentions that there will also be a show at the Pasadena Rosebowl on May 20th. Weeks ago rumours talked about the Bonnaroo Festival.

About the European tour and in particular about U2's visit to our country, there have been attempts to bring the group to Madrid and/or Barcelona in the last few months. Vicente Calderón Stadium option has been on the street, but never the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium. Finally and for reasons that we do not know today, Barcelona has once again been the chosen one. The Irish group will perform at the Olympic Stadium in Montjuich in the first half of July 2017, almost 20 years after their only concert in that venue.

From other European countries we get reliable information about shows in Rome and Berlin, a single concert with option to a second night depending on ticket sales. This will probably be the tour schedule: Just a few cities with a couple of shows each.

This new concert of U2 in Barcelona will become the twelfth meeting of the Irish band with the city.

If we listen to the rumors and remember what happened on the i + e tour, tickets for the tour would go on sale almost immediately after the announcement, possibly throughout the same week.

We are just 3 days left for that official announcement and we will then know all the details.

Mushy

Olympic Stadium is the smaller of the two in Barcelona. Wonder would it be a Landsdowne/Pairc ui Caoimh job.

PTH2009

Mushy wrote: »

Olympic Stadium is the smaller of the two in Barcelona. Wonder would it be a Landsdowne/Pairc ui Caoimh job.

Hopefully an Irish newspaper might leak the dates the weekend, if there is too be Irish shows. It's looking like a European tour in July

I hope us Irish are not left out of Monday's announcement like the I&E tour and our shows get announced later in the year

The Raptor

If July is the month. It will probably be in Croke Park. There's often concerts in late July.

SteM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Hopefully an Irish newspaper might leak the dates the weekend, if there is too be Irish shows. It's looking like a European tour in July

I hope us Irish are not left out of Monday's announcement like the I&E tour and our shows get announced later in the year

The only reason Ireland wasn't included in the original I+E tour announcement was they didn't think there was enough space for the stage setup in the Point. Didn't they have to tinker with the setup to fit it in? Wouldn't be an issue for a stadium show though.

PTH2009

Ill be annoyed if they skip Ireland and just played big markets like Barcelona, , Rome, Berlin, Paris, London, Toronto, New York, LA etc

The Nal

They won't skip Ireland. A lot of the album is about Ireland. 
Also they've never skipped Ireland on a tour and they never will.

Graham1978

Seen some more rumors of Mumford and sons supporting on the US leg and Noel Gallagher for Europe

The Nal

Graham1978 wrote: »

Seen some more rumors of Mumford and sons supporting on the US leg and Noel Gallagher for Europe

Sweet Jesus

PTH2009

The Nal wrote: »

Sweet Jesus

Quite like those support bands. Obv NG will be supporting them here

ATM its Looking like No Garth Brooks Irish shows (well in CP anyway) and no Oasis reunion for 2017

Mike Guide 69

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ill be annoyed if they skip Ireland and just played big markets like Barcelona, , Rome, Berlin, Paris, London, Toronto, New York, LA etc

On the flip side, might be a nice option to see them abroad, make a nice break

PTH2009

Mike Guide 69 wrote: »

On the flip side, might be a nice option to see them abroad, make a nice break

I'm going too London to see Guns N Roses in June so can't afford a u2 trip too

Mike Guide 69

PTH2009 wrote: »

I'm going too London to see Guns N Roses in June so can't afford a u2 trip too

Nice one, i was half thinking of heading Rock Werchter in June and that would make a heavy dent in my plans as well....

ballbag05

bring back to the banks of the new Pairc Ui Franc in Leeside, would be an ideal opener!!!

weadick

ballbag05 wrote: »

bring back to the banks of the new Pairc Ui Franc in Leeside, would be an ideal opener!!!

Should be a push for this to happen, would be great for the city and its not like they dont have close ties with Cork.

MisterAnarchy

weadick wrote: »

Should be a push for this to happen, would be great for the city and its not like they dont have close ties with Cork.

It would be great but this U2 are a very different entity to the one that played there in 1993.
Its all about money now I'm afraid and its much easier to play 3 nights in Croke Park than move the stage down to Cork .

Will the stadium even be finished for next summer ?
It would appeal to the band though if they were the first band to play there on its reopening ,it would be something special.

I will never forget that night in 93,the band were at the peak of their powers then .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FElW-WjkQh8

It does seem a strange time of the year to announce a tour .
People must be drained dry from all the events cynically put on sale in the build up to Christmas.

I'm guessing the tour announcement will initially be a few dates ,mostly US ,and more will be added over the coming weeks/months.
I hope tickets aren't too steep ,the prices for the last indoor tour were very high.