Russian and alt-right Interference in democracies.

Hank Scorpio

demfad wrote: »

You're about as credible as Donald Trump with your standard of replies these days Hank.

Care to link to the fake email so?

demfad

https://theintercept.com/2017/09/22/german-election-afd-gatestone-institute/

A US based site 'The Gatestone Institute' was heavily involved in propaganda in the German election, hiring writers in Netherlands to produce European content.

The Gatestone posts, which are often translated into German, are regularly promoted by AfD politicians and AfD-related social media groups to justify the party’s crusade against Chancellor Angela Merkel’s open-door refugee policy.

One viral Gatestone story claimed that Germany was “confiscating homes to use for migrants.” The piece — which was shared by AfD supporters, including Thomas Rudy, a senior AfD politician in the central German state of Thuringia — claimed that vacant homes in Hamburg were seized by local authorities seeking new housing solutions for the “hundreds of thousands of migrants from Africa, Asia, and the Middle East.”

The article closed with a question about what might happen next: “Will authorities now limit the maximum amount of living space per person, and force those with large apartments to share them with strangers?”

Local German press, however, condemned the Gatestone story as false. A single house in Hamburg went into temporary trusteeship after several apartments at the home remained vacant. “Refugees did not play a role in the district’s decision,” fact-checking website Correctiv noted.

The story was typical of Gatestone’s approach. The website’s Germany-related coverage includes story after story about migrants raping German women, claims that migrants are bringing “highly infectious diseases” to Germany, and Muslims are transforming entire German neighborhoods into “no-go zones” where local police have lost control. Many of the claims about Muslims in Europe have been debunked as false or sensationalized.

On the board we soon find some of teh usual supects behind Trump and Brexit:

The website is currently chaired by former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton, the former Bush administration official who was reportedly vetted by the Trump administration for a national security-related role, but was ultimately passed over. The Gatestone Institute lists Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz, Fox News pundit Pat Caddell, and Breitbart News editor Raheem Kassam as “distinguished senior fellows” who contribute to the site.

Rebekah Mercer, a major Trump donor and financial backer of Breitbart News, was listed as a member of the Gatestone Institute “board of governors” earlier this year, but her name was later removed from the website. Mercer is the daughter of billionaire hedge fund executive Robert Mercer, whose foundation has supported Gatestone over the years.

Board chair John Bolton was Rebekah Mercer's pick for US Secretary of State. Board member Raheem Kassam is News editor with Breitbart which is controlled by Robert Mercer.
The Mercers also own Cambridge Analytica a big data election manipulation company which puts micro targeted news (often fake) in individual Facebook profiles.
Cambridge was involved with Trump's win, and all Leave campaigns paid monies to Cambridge including £3.9m (out of £7m) from 'vote leave' the official campaign.
Another indication that the far-right/Russian push Internationally is coordinated by the same bad actors.

demfad

https://theintercept.com/2017/09/22/german-election-afd-gatestone-institute/

Link to an article showing a Russian cell (30 human trolls) was actively engaging in election interference for the AFD party in the German election.

One of the stunts is articled below listing the use of a botnet.

https://medium.com/dfrlab/electionwatch-final-hours-fake-news-hype-in-germany-cc9b8157cfb8

On Sunday, online supporters of AFD began warning their voter base of possible election fraud and calling for observers. On Saturday, (day before election) the efforts increased, driven by anonymous troll accounts and boosted by a Russian-language botnet.

On the morning of September 22, an apparently left-wing @Twitter user named @von_Sahringen claimed to have been made an election helper, and that as a result, “AfD ballots will be made invalid” — a clear indication of fraud.

The post triggered a swift response from a number of users, including Germany’s official election bureau, which pointed out that election fraud is a punishable offense.
Four hours later, the same user tweeted that they had been visited by the police and their status as an election helper revoked.
By then, the post had triggered a Twitter storm from AfD supporters, using the hashtag #Wahlbetrug (“election fraud”).
The #WahlBetrug hashtag was used by AfD supporters throughout the last week of campaigning, but it showed a sudden spike on Saturday afternoon, the eve of the vote.

A Machine scan of the #Wahlbetrug hashtag, showing the late spike.
The scan shows that the traffic was not organic, but boosted by a network of automated “bot” accounts which operates largely in Russian, and which @DFRLab previously identified in an our #ElectionWatch coverage.

demfad

https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SPrt_115-21.pdf

Huge report here on Russian interference into over 20 semi-consolidated and consolidated democracies and democratic elections using modern as well as traditional techniques. It outlines what countries have done to counter this interference.

For years, Vladimir Putin’s government has
engaged in a relentless assault to undermine democracy and the
rule of law in Europe and the United States. Mr. Putin’s Kremlin
employs an asymmetric arsenal that includes military invasions,
cyberattacks, disinformation, support for fringe political groups,
and the weaponization of energy resources, organized crime, and
corruption. The Kremlin has refined the use of these tools over
time and these attacks have intensified in scale and complexity
across Europe. If the United States fails to work with urgency to
address this complex and growing threat, the regime in Moscow
will become further emboldened. It will continue to develop and refine
its arsenal to use on democracies around the world, including
against U.S. elections in 2018 and 2020.

BalcombeSt4

The hypocricy here is reaching insane levels. The US has interfered in more democratic elections than any other country in history.
The US directly or indirectly intereferd in, overthrew or installed...

*The 1964 & 1970 Chile elections
*The Bolivia election in 2002
*The Russian Election of 1996
*The Korean election of 1948
*The Italian election of 1948
*The Philippines election of 1953
*The Guyanese election of 1953
*The Palestine election of 2006
*Several Japenese elections during the 1950's & 60's
*the Chile coup of 1973
*The Brazil coup of 1964
*The Iran coup of 1953
*The panama coup of 1941
*The 1949 Syrian coup
*The Guatemala coup of 1954
*The Bay of Pigs in Cuba 1961
*Terrorist operations against Cuba in the 60's & 70's coded Operation MONGOOSE
*The Dominican Republic invasion in 1965
*Operationn Cyclone during the 80's in Afghanistan
*Supporting terrorism training in Nicaragua in the 80's. Which included part of the training, the CIA distributed a detailed "terror manual" entitled "Psychological Operations in Guerrilla War," which instructed the Contras, among other things, on how to blow up public buildings, to assassinate judges, to create martyrs, and to blackmail ordinary citizens.
*The invasion of Grenada in 1983
*The invasion of Panama in 1989
*1991 Haiti coup
*1991 Kuwait coup
*1991 Iraq invasion
*Obviously the genocide in Vietnam
and it just goes on from there into the 2000's.

The US has it's hands soaked with the blood of the world. And just of the top of my head, there's Tibet, Ghana, Albania the list just goes on & on.

weisses

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

The hypocricy here is reaching insane levels. The US has interfered in more democratic elections than any other country in history.
The US directly or indirectly intereferd in, overthrew or installed...

*The 1964 & 1970 Chile elections
*The Bolivia election in 2002
*The Russian Election of 1996
*The Korean election of 1948
*The Italian election of 1948
*The Philippines election of 1953
*The Guyanese election of 1953
*The Palestine election of 2006
*Several Japenese elections during the 1950's & 60's
*the Chile coup of 1973
*The Brazil coup of 1964
*The Iran coup of 1953
*The panama coup of 1941
*The 1949 Syrian coup
*The Guatemala coup of 1954
*The Bay of Pigs in Cuba 1961
*Terrorist operations against Cuba in the 60's & 70's coded Operation MONGOOSE
*The Dominican Republic invasion in 1965
*Operationn Cyclone during the 80's in Afghanistan
*Supporting terrorism training in Nicaragua in the 80's. Which included part of the training, the CIA distributed a detailed "terror manual" entitled "Psychological Operations in Guerrilla War," which instructed the Contras, among other things, on how to blow up public buildings, to assassinate judges, to create martyrs, and to blackmail ordinary citizens.
*The invasion of Grenada in 1983
*The invasion of Panama in 1989
*1991 Haiti coup
*1991 Kuwait coup
*1991 Iraq invasion
*Obviously the genocide in Vietnam
and it just goes on from there into the 2000's.

The US has it's hands soaked with the blood of the world. And just of the top of my head, there's Tibet, Ghana, Albania the list just goes on & on.

Brought up and discussed by OP in this thread already in 2016

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=101901112&postcount=14

A bit rich crying hypocrisy in this thread is reaching insane levels without even getting familiar with what is discussed already.

All the big players have dirty hands.

Happens to be Russia who is the latest culprit ...which is what is discussed here

Franz Von Peppercorn

weisses wrote: »

Brought up and discussed by OP in this thread already in 2016

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=101901112&postcount=14

A bit rich crying hypocrisy in this thread is reaching insane levels without even getting familiar with what is discussed already.

It’s a pretty long thread.

Demfaq just pours out whatever US prooganda he can get his paws on. The US interference is real, most of the op is based on the dossier - which we now find to be a Democratic Party instrument.

weisses

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

It’s a pretty long thread.

Demfaq just pours out whatever US prooganda he can get his paws on. The US interference is real, most of the op is based on the dossier - which we now find to be a Democratic Party instrument.

Yes ... and the post about Boris and Bill was on page 1 ... so point still stands

Ahh yes and Russia didn't meddle in the US election .... those democrats :rolleyes:

demfad

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

It’s a pretty long thread.

Demfaq just pours out whatever US prooganda he can get his paws on. The US interference is real, most of the op is based on the dossier - which we now find to be a Democratic Party instrument.

The EU/Nato has published many reports on the Russian hybrid war which I will reference later.

First of all can you substantiate that the dossier was a democratic instrument given that for most of its compilation it was funded by Republican opposition to Trump's primary? If you're referring to that joke of a memo: Carter Page has been under investigation since 2013. There were 3 Russian spies arrested trying to recruit him. The evidence that FOUR FISA court judges saw to extend his FISA warrant extended to a lot more than any dossier. For a FISA warrant to be extended you must have gained intelligence from the previous warrant:
Just to note: Nunes did not read the evidence used for the FISA extension.

This article in TIME magazine (after Memo release) is informative:

The letter, dated Aug. 25, 2013, was sent by Page to an academic press during a dispute over edits to an unpublished manuscript he had submitted for publication, according to an editor who worked with Page.

“Over the past half year, I have had the privilege to serve as an informal advisor to the staff of the Kremlin in preparation for their Presidency of the G-20 Summit next month, where energy issues will be a prominent point on the agenda,” the letter reads.
......

At the heart of the debate is the question of who, exactly, is Carter Page. Trump’s defenders argue that he was simply a low-level consultant to the campaign who has overstated his role as an adviser as well as his Russian contacts. The Steele dossier claims that during a trip to Moscow in July 2016, Page held secret meetings with a senior Kremlin official and a senior Putin ally that included conversations about helping Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton in the presidential campaign. The Steele dossier does not identify its sources and Page has denied any wrongdoing.

In interviews with reporters over the past year, Page has given inconsistent accounts about his contacts with the Russians.

In January 2013, Page met a Russian diplomat named Victor Podobnyy at an energy conference in New York City, according to court documents. The two exchanged contact information, sent each other documents on energy policy and met several more times to discuss the topic, the documents allege. Two years later, in January of 2015, Podobnyy was charged in absentia — along with two other Russians — with working as a Russian intelligence agent under diplomatic cover.

Court records include a transcript of a conversation where Podobnyy talks about recruiting someone named “Male-1” by making “empty promises” about “connections in the [Russian] Trade Representation.” Page now acknowledges that he was “Male-1.” Podobnyy and one of the Russians had diplomatic immunity and left the U.S. The third Russian was arrested and eventually expelled from the U.S. in April 2017.

Franz Von Peppercorn

weisses wrote: »

Yes ... and the post about Boris and Bill was on page 1 ... so point still stands

Ahh yes and Russia didn't meddle in the US election .... those democrats :rolleyes:

You’re right. They didn’t. It’s all politicised nonsense.

And you are right. The dossier was originally a product of the anti trump republicans. This hardly depoliticises it.

weisses

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

You’re right. They didn’t. It’s all politicised nonsense.

Ahhh yes ... A worldwide liberal conspiracy

Franz Von Peppercorn

weisses wrote: »

Ahhh yes ... A worldwide liberal conspiracy

Given that it’s also - as we both said - a republican dossier it’s hardly liberal. Neither am I right wing.

It’s an American establishment conspiracy. A panic about some of Trump’s statements about swamp draining and removing troops from some arenas like Afghanistan.

Of course that was all hot air and presupposes that US presidents can stop wars, nevertheless it caused a panic and an investigation and the momentum of the investigation continues.

demfad

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

You’re right. They didn’t. It’s all politicised nonsense.

And you are right. The dossier was originally a product of the anti trump republicans. This hardly depoliticises it.

The memo also states that the FBI investigation started when Papadopoulos boasted drunkenly to an Australian diplomat that the Trump campaign having 10,000s of hacked emails from Hillary. The alarmed diplomat rightly reported this to his contacts in US intelligence.

The dossier is not evidence: it is raw intel. Parts of it are only of interest to US Intelligence when it corroborates information/evidence that they already have.
This along with a lot of other evidence would have formed the basis on continuing the FISA warrant on Carter Page who has been on the FBI radar since 2013.
For Nunes (who does not know what evidence was used for the FISA application) to try and manufacture a story that a FISA court was mislead when he doesnt know if it was mislead or not is ultra-partisan. The objective is to corruptly paint the Investigation into Trump as a partisan witchhunt.
It is actually beyond partisan.

demfad

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Given that it’s also - as we both said - a republican dossier it’s hardly liberal. Neither am I right wing.

It’s an American establishment conspiracy. A panic about some of Trump’s statements about swamp draining and removing troops from some arenas like Afghanistan.

Of course that was all hot air and presupposes that US presidents can stop wars, nevertheless it caused a panic and an investigation and the momentum of the investigation continues.

Can you substantiate that this was the cause of the investigation or are you making it up?

The start of the investigation by all accounts was Papadopoulos talking drunkenly about the email hacks and dirt on Hillary which the campaign had. His careless talk was reported to US intelligence.

demfad

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/04/trump-twitter-russians-release-the-memo-216935

Incredible article on how over an 11 day period #releasethememo went viral using computational propaganda orchestrated by Russian and alt-right bots, and Trump supporters.
This case study gives us a prescient incite into how Russia can get the stories it wants to influence the public, law makers and democracies itself in target countries.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/04/trump-twitter-russians-release-the-memo-216935

masculinist

George Soros just gave 400,000 to remainers in the UK to stop Brexit which was the democratic choice of the British people . The real story of foreign interference in elections is with wealthy people such as him who influence whole economies and psychopathicly bet on the outcome on the stock market and with NGOs not with invisible Russians under your bed.

PopePalpatine

It could be worse...he could own the country's biggest media conglomerate! :eek:

demfad

masculinist wrote: »

George Soros just gave 400,000 to remainers in the UK to stop Brexit which was the democratic choice of the British people . The real story of foreign interference in elections is with wealthy people such as him who influence whole economies and psychopathicly bet on the outcome on the stock market and with NGOs not with invisible Russians under your bed.

I have earlier linked a report detailing Russian interference into dozens of countries. Any comment?

Also the main billionaires affecting the vote before the actual referendum was Murdoch, Chris Chandler and Robert Mercer. In fact Robert Mercer supported ALL 5 leave campaigns and was paid £3.9 billion from official leave out of their £7 million total.

Do your homework and come back.

BabyCheeses

masculinist wrote: »

invisible Russians under your bed.

"invisible"

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

demfad

BabyCheeses wrote: »

"invisible"

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

From the US Senate study: All these countries were or are now under Cyber attack by Russia. I would be adding Ireland to that list myself with the moves on Irexit.

GalwayMark

demfad wrote: »

From the US Senate study: All these countries were or are now under Cyber attack by Russia. I would be adding Ireland to that list myself with the moves on Irexit.

Is there a publicly available link?

demfad

Link is in this post

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105996858&postcount=605

demfad

Link to Mueller's indictment against IRA.
Fascinating to see the inner workings of this part of the cyber warfare weaponry:
https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

Has Russia finally over reached in it's global cyber war?

demfad

From the Mueller indictment of the IRA:

The ORGANIZATION was headed by a management group and organized into
departments, including: a graphics department; a data analysis department; a
search-engine optimization (“SEO”) department; an information-technology (“IT”)
department to maintain the digital infrastructure used in the ORGANIZATION’s
operations; and a finance department to budget and allocate funding.

This is more or less stating that the IRA had a data analytics department and had the technology to optimise exposure.

The bill for this operation was in the millions per month easily as big or bigger than actual election campaign PAC spending and easily bigger than campaigns in smaller countries.

recedite

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

The hypocricy here is reaching insane levels. The US has interfered in more democratic elections than any other country in history.
The US directly or indirectly intereferd in, overthrew or installed...

*The 1964 & 1970 Chile elections
*The Bolivia election in 2002
*The Russian Election of 1996
*The Korean election of 1948
*The Italian election of 1948
*The Philippines election of 1953
*The Guyanese election of 1953
*The Palestine election of 2006
*Several Japenese elections during the 1950's & 60's
*the Chile coup of 1973
*The Brazil coup of 1964
*The Iran coup of 1953
*The panama coup of 1941
*The 1949 Syrian coup
*The Guatemala coup of 1954
*The Bay of Pigs in Cuba 1961
*Terrorist operations against Cuba in the 60's & 70's coded Operation MONGOOSE
*The Dominican Republic invasion in 1965
*Operationn Cyclone during the 80's in Afghanistan
*Supporting terrorism training in Nicaragua in the 80's. Which included part of the training, the CIA distributed a detailed "terror manual" entitled "Psychological Operations in Guerrilla War," which instructed the Contras, among other things, on how to blow up public buildings, to assassinate judges, to create martyrs, and to blackmail ordinary citizens.
*The invasion of Grenada in 1983
*The invasion of Panama in 1989
*1991 Haiti coup
*1991 Kuwait coup
*1991 Iraq invasion
*Obviously the genocide in Vietnam
and it just goes on from there into the 2000's.

The US has it's hands soaked with the blood of the world. And just of the top of my head, there's Tibet, Ghana, Albania the list just goes on & on.

Add to that attempts to clamp down on free speech at home by forcing Russia Today media group to register as a foreign agent, thereby restricting its funding. Then there was the peculiar case of the former RT boss Mikhail Lesin who supposedly beat himself to death (according to the FBI) and then poured a bottle of vodka over his head.

Not to mention the covert US machinations over the past few years in Ukraine which have seen it switch from being a Russian ally to a hostile, and culminated in them recently allowing US marines to start work on their first ever Black Sea naval base. Ochakiv happens to be just round the corner from the centuries old historic Russian naval base at Sevastopol, which is obviously a serious provocation to Russia.

It all pales in comparison to some Russians paying for a few facebook adds.

recedite

Bob the builder in the US marines- "Yes we can".

demfad

recedite wrote: »

Add to that attempts to clamp down on free speech at home by forcing Russia Today media group to register as a foreign agent, thereby restricting its funding.

RT and Sputnik have long been known to be propaganda arms of the Russian State: RT being set up by Lesin after independent media was cracked down on in Russia.
Their being forced to be registered as a foreign agent reflects their participation in propaganda efforts during the 2016 election as reported by the CIA (and every other US intel organisation and many other intel orgs across the world.)
RTs coverage of Brexit was also systematically one sided:

"Anti-EU articles published by Russian media outlets had four times more social media impact before the Brexit vote than the official Leave campaigns, analysis suggests.
More than 260 stories with strong anti-European sentiment were published by RT and Sputnik in the six months leading up to the referendum in June 2016, according to evidence submitted to MPs."

Then there was the peculiar case of the former RT boss Mikhail Lesin who supposedly beat himself to death (according to the FBI) and then poured a bottle of vodka over his head.

Lesin was out of favour with the Kremlin and suspicians about his death were NOT related to any possibility of the FBI being involved, rather that Lesin had joined the long list of Journalists, Policticians and Business people murdered by Vladimir Putin.

Not to mention the covert US machinations over the past few years in Ukraine which have seen it switch from being a Russian ally to a hostile, and culminated in them recently allowing US marines to start work on their first ever Black Sea naval base. Ochakiv happens to be just round the corner from the centuries old historic Russian naval base at Sevastopol, which is obviously a serious provocation to Russia.

The latest Mueller indictment on Manafort charges him with being paid by Ukrainian oligarchs to spread positive news on Ukraine PM Viktor Yanukovitz after he arrested and imprisoned former PM Yulia Timoshenko.
He paid former Italian PM Romano Prodi and indeed a former chancelor of Austria to canvass on Ukraine's behalf as 'independent' heavy weight commentators.
At the same time the pro-Russian anti-EU parties (in the EU parliament) were saying similar, reminiscent of your accusations.

It all pales in comparison to some Russians paying for a few facebook adds.

Your description of the Russian operation pales into comparison with the reality:

From the Indictment against the Internet Research Agency based in St Petersburg:
https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

That location became one of the ORGANIZATION’s operational hubs from which Defendants and other co-conspirators carried out their activities to interfere in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
a. The ORGANIZATION employed hundreds of individuals for its online operations, ranging from creators of fictitious personas to technical and administrative support.
The ORGANIZATION’s annual budget totaled the equivalent of millions of U.S.
dollars.
b. The ORGANIZATION was headed by a management group and organized into departments, including: a graphics department; a data analysis department; a search-engine optimization (“SEO”) department; an information-technology (“IT”)department to maintain the digital infrastructure used in the ORGANIZATION’s operations; and a finance department to budget and allocate funding.

This does not count the cost of buying and setting up IT infrastructure on US soil. And this is just the social media operation. Were not counting the hack and dump email operation, the hack of 21 US State systems, the work of the wider Russian Intelligence communities on this project, any quid pro quos for Trump campaign in response for pro-Russian policies after Trump's election.

recedite

demfad wrote: »

Lesin was out of favour with the Kremlin

Things must have changed a lot since Putin pinned a medal on his chest, the highest civilian decoration of the state.
Strange that the FBI would cover up his death by saying it was an accident. If they could point the finger at Moscow, they surely would.

Chris_Heilong

I do not really think Russia has much to do with anything outside of Russia, seems like a convenient bad guy that lurks in the Shadow like a boogieman, there is no evidence that they have done anything to influence the American election.

Franz Von Peppercorn

demfad wrote: »

RT and Sputnik have long been known to be propaganda arms of the Russian State: RT being set up by Lesin after independent media was cracked down on in Russia.
Their being forced to be registered as a foreign agent reflects their participation in propaganda efforts during the 2016 election as reported by the CIA (and every other US intel organisation and many other intel orgs across the world.)
RTs coverage of Brexit was also systematically one sided:

"Anti-EU articles published by Russian media outlets had four times more social media impact before the Brexit vote than the official Leave campaigns, analysis suggests.
More than 260 stories with strong anti-European sentiment were published by RT and Sputnik in the six months leading up to the referendum in June 2016, according to evidence submitted to MPs."




Lesin was out of favour with the Kremlin and suspicians about his death were NOT related to any possibility of the FBI being involved, rather that Lesin had joined the long list of Journalists, Policticians and Business people murdered by Vladimir Putin.



The latest Mueller indictment on Manafort charges him with being paid by Ukrainian oligarchs to spread positive news on Ukraine PM Viktor Yanukovitz after he arrested and imprisoned former PM Yulia Timoshenko.
He paid former Italian PM Romano Prodi and indeed a former chancelor of Austria to canvass on Ukraine's behalf as 'independent' heavy weight commentators.
At the same time the pro-Russian anti-EU parties (in the EU parliament) were saying similar, reminiscent of your accusations.



Your description of the Russian operation pales into comparison with the reality:

From the Indictment against the Internet Research Agency based in St Petersburg:
https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download



This does not count the cost of buying and setting up IT infrastructure on US soil. And this is just the social media operation. Were not counting the hack and dump email operation, the hack of 21 US State systems, the work of the wider Russian Intelligence communities on this project, any quid pro quos for Trump campaign in response for pro-Russian policies after Trump's election.

Nothing to see here. A Russian private operation wrote some tweets and Facebook posts that probably influenced nobody.

Meanwhile the US interferes in every country in the world.