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Waiting to TTC

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    phi3 wrote: »
    I can't get my head around it at all. It's stupid like! Even writing in forums like this feels wrong. I was actually looking to buy folic acid that didn't mention pregnancy on it! Don't know what's wrong with me! I get really panicked about it sometimes.

    Do you actually want a baby now or are you just feeling pressure of age?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Do you actually want a baby now or are you just feeling pressure of age?

    Probably an age thing. Like I know even if I start now it could take a year for anything to happen and another 9 months for the baby to be born. At that stage age will be becoming a problem. And that's if I only have one child. But I will never be ready. Next year I won't feel more ready so there's no point in waiting if it's going to happen anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    Yeah I heard that about being pregnant over the summer. To be honest hubby have been trying to convince me that it don't matter when but he knows what I'm like about the idea of winter baby which, I suppose, seems very silly now in hindsight after reading posts so I didn't mean to annoy anyone.
    As for the morning after pill, it was just a bit of panic reaction as we were careful to avoid getting risky around my fertile time. So I'd hardly go for it in case it affects my fertility short term like you said.

    There are up and downsides to any time of year to be honest. I had twins last summer and though the heat was difficult at times, at least I could just slip into a maxi dress and sandals. I am not sure I would have been able to to lace up boots or struggle with jumpers and coats!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭xDisneyDivax


    phi3 wrote: »
    eviltwin wrote: »
    Do you actually want a baby now or are you just feeling pressure of age?

    Probably an age thing. Like I know even if I start now it could take a year for anything to happen and another 9 months for the baby to be born. At that stage age will be becoming a problem. And that's if I only have one child. But I will never be ready. Next year I won't feel more ready so there's no point in waiting if it's going to happen anyway
    I don't think anyone will ever feel 100% ready. Like we talked about it and decided we're ready one day but then we decided we're not ready next day so I guess it is best to just go with the flow- I know I can't exactly talk when we said we will wait few months! :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 Broody_Allen


    Jesus I didn't realise people actually thought like that, morning after pill because a Christmas baby might cramp their style too much. Pretty insensitive on a TTC forum, sake


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    phi3 wrote: »
    We are going to start trying in a few months.
    I am really not ready but at nearly 33 it's now or never.
    I'll never feel ready. I can't imagine it happening to me. I mean maybe it never will. In a lot of ways i don't want to do it but if I don't I think I might spend the rest of my life regretting it. My lifestyle at the moment doesn't allow for a baby. It would be a complete lifestyle change. Which in a way might be a good thing but at the same time it's the scariest thing I've ever done.

    There's no non-child-adult lifestyle that allows for a baby. It utterly turns your world upside down.
    But wow. There's nothing like it. (for the record - I don't particularly love other people's kids, but I adore my own (mostly!) )

    I had our first at 31 (almost 32), and the Rotunda didn't say anything about age, but I was classed as geriatric pregnancy. My mum told me they do that though, they've been doing it since her day, 30 years ago. It's literally nature. Scientifically, it's considered an older pregnancy.That's all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭xDisneyDivax


    Jesus I didn't realise people actually thought like that, morning after pill because a Christmas baby might cramp their style too much. Pretty insensitive on a TTC forum, sake

    I said it was a jerk panic reaction in the moment and I apologized & didn't mean to annoy anyone :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    shesty wrote: »
    There's no non-child-adult lifestyle that allows for a baby. It utterly turns your world upside down.
    But wow. There's nothing like it. (for the record - I don't particularly love other people's kids, but I adore my own (mostly!) )

    I had our first at 31 (almost 32), and the Rotunda didn't say anything about age, but I was classed as geriatric pregnancy. My mum told me they do that though, they've been doing it since her day, 30 years ago. It's literally nature. Scientifically, it's considered an older pregnancy.That's all.


    Going to have to try to get used to the idea anyway. Maybe there will be some good part to it. Just can't think of any right now.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


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    phi3;102638462]Going to have to try to get used to the idea anyway. Maybe there will be some good part to it. Just can't think of any right now.

    You don't sound like you want a child, now or possibly ever. And you know, that's ok. It's ok to not want your life to change. Feeling like you should have one because of age, feeling upset because your life will change is showing you that. Most people who want a baby, even putting it on the long finger acknowledge that their lives will change at that point and are willing for that to happen. But I'm not getting that from your posts at all. They just sound sad and really scared. That's not a good mindset for TTC, for your own mental wellbeing.

    This isn't just a 9 month pregnancy or a year ttc. If you get pregnant, this is the rest of your life - and at least the next couple of decades - that will likely bear little or no resemblance to the life you have now. You have to want and welcome that with a kid. I have never been more tired or more disorganised in my life. My house is driving me cracked at the moment with the clutter and the toys and we are finally having a holiday this year after several years of high creche fees taking priority, even though we both work full time (that's another juggle!). There are not enough moments in the day. I have barely went to the loo unaccompanied for years - I just about manage to sneak off to empty my mooncup. My FB feed is full of my single friends going on ski trips or on the lash and my partner and I haven't had a date in months and months. But if you offered me my pre-kids life back, I wouldn't even need to consider it, I'd turn it down flat. Because for me, I've never been happier. It's what I've always wanted and I'm happy that my life is the way it is.

    I'm not saying this to put you off. If a person wants children, what I've said there wont put them off, they'll be thinking "bring it on, I'm ready for it". I'm saying this because you seem far from ready to ttc, dreading a potential pregnancy and baby almost and seem to have agreed to it because its what your partner wants or because of your age without really considering how YOU feel. Not about age or what 'should' happen - but about what YOU really want.

    I would suggest that you ask your partner for some time to think on that - 6 months at least or the best part of a year. Not thinking about what he would like, or that your mother/grannie would love you to have a baby. You need to be selfish and consider what you want. Keep posting here if you feel it helps sort out your feelings which ever way they are leaning. Read the other forums - Pregnancy, Newborns & Todds and get a feel for the idea of becoming and being a mother. You still have time at 33 or 34 to take time to fully think this out for yourself and decide if it's really for you and the few months it took to be certain will do no harm only good. And if motherhood isn't for you, then that's absolutely fine too. A child changes everything, but you run the risk of resenting them for those changes as they grow up and they really don't deserve that.

    I just get from your posts that you need breathing space right now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Neyite wrote: »
    You don't sound like you want a child, now or possibly ever. And you know, that's ok. It's ok to not want your life to change. Feeling like you should have one because of age, feeling upset because your life will change is showing you that. Most people who want a baby, even putting it on the long finger acknowledge that their lives will change at that point and are willing for that to happen. But I'm not getting that from your posts at all. They just sound sad and really scared. That's not a good mindset for TTC, for your own mental wellbeing.

    This isn't just a 9 month pregnancy or a year ttc. If you get pregnant, this is the rest of your life - and at least the next couple of decades - that will likely bear little or no resemblance to the life you have now. You have to want and welcome that with a kid. I have never been more tired or more disorganised in my life. My house is driving me cracked at the moment with the clutter and the toys and we are finally having a holiday this year after several years of high creche fees taking priority, even though we both work full time (that's another juggle!). There are not enough moments in the day. I have barely went to the loo unaccompanied for years - I just about manage to sneak off to empty my mooncup. My FB feed is full of my single friends going on ski trips or on the lash and my partner and I haven't had a date in months and months. But if you offered me my pre-kids life back, I wouldn't even need to consider it, I'd turn it down flat. Because for me, I've never been happier. It's what I've always wanted and I'm happy that my life is the way it is.

    I'm not saying this to put you off. If a person wants children, what I've said there wont put them off, they'll be thinking "bring it on, I'm ready for it". I'm saying this because you seem far from ready to ttc, dreading a potential pregnancy and baby almost and seem to have agreed to it because its what your partner wants or because of your age without really considering how YOU feel. Not about age or what 'should' happen - but about what YOU really want.

    I would suggest that you ask your partner for some time to think on that - 6 months at least or the best part of a year. Not thinking about what he would like, or that your mother/grannie would love you to have a baby. You need to be selfish and consider what you want. Keep posting here if you feel it helps sort out your feelings which ever way they are leaning. Read the other forums - Pregnancy, Newborns & Todds and get a feel for the idea of becoming and being a mother. You still have time at 33 or 34 to take time to fully think this out for yourself and decide if it's really for you and the few months it took to be certain will do no harm only good. And if motherhood isn't for you, then that's absolutely fine too. A child changes everything, but you run the risk of resenting them for those changes as they grow up and they really don't deserve that.

    I just get from your posts that you need breathing space right now.

    Thank for your input. I understand what you're saying. I am absolutely terrified of every part of having children. Including the next 20 plus years they would be dependent on me. I'm scared of the pregnancy, the giving birth (obviously), the break from work, The ability to keep a helpless baby alive, the getting back to work - finding childcare- only seeing them at weekends due to work. The sleepless nights.
    However despite all that there is some part of me that wants to do it. I don't know why. I don't know whether it's the ticking clock or whether its for purely selfish reasons of having some family when I get older. Or the pressure on me to keep my family line going as there are no other grandchildren. Occasionally my brain says lets do this but then it remembers all the scary parts of it and it says nope I can't do this.
    I suppose it's the most difficult thing anyone ever does and maybe no one is ever really ready until they're doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,649 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Phi3 you can look at what part of your reluctance is fear and what is genuine resistance.

    I felt similar enough and wasn't really trying very hard to get pregnant after we got married until I was told I probably couldn't have children. And then I cried for two days. I then got pregnant with twins two months later. As i expected its had a negative impact on my career. But otherwise I loved being pregnant and am loving being a mum. And wonder why I waited so long. In my case it was fear that held me back but everything was fine and I don't think ive ever been happier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    phi3 wrote: »
    Thank for your input. I understand what you're saying. I am absolutely terrified of every part of having children. Including the next 20 plus years they would be dependent on me. I'm scared of the pregnancy, the giving birth (obviously), the break from work, The ability to keep a helpless baby alive, the getting back to work - finding childcare- only seeing them at weekends due to work. The sleepless nights.
    However despite all that there is some part of me that wants to do it. I don't know why. I don't know whether it's the ticking clock or whether its for purely selfish reasons of having some family when I get older. Or the pressure on me to keep my family line going as there are no other grandchildren. Occasionally my brain says lets do this but then it remembers all the scary parts of it and it says nope I can't do this.
    I suppose it's the most difficult thing anyone ever does and maybe no one is ever really ready until they're doing it.

    I think the fact that unlike our mothers (well for some of you it's probably your grannies, but I'm turned 50 now!) we have access to contraception and take it for granted that we can control our fertility, it's becoming almost another stick to beat ourselves up with. in some ways it was nearly easier when pregnancy was like your period, something that just happened, no matter whether or suited or not.

    I'm sort of in between, as we hadn't planned our first, but otoh we are in a stable situation, so after the initial terror it was fine. In some ways I'm glad, as I don't know whether I'd have been able to make that conscious decision myself.
    Of course maybe that was my unconscious deciding for me!

    So I think while Neyite is definitely right to say that you shouldn't let yourself be pushed into having a baby "for" someone else (partner or parent) maybe you also need to relax a bit about the actual parenthood thing, and think about when you reach the menopause, like I currently am - do you see yourself still having holidays abroad and so on, or do you see yourself with grown up kids and possibly grandchildren?

    I think one of the reasons parenthood is often so tough now is because people, mothers especially, put themselves under so much pressure to be perfect parents. Again I'd relate that to the fact that it's so easy to say "Well you chose it, don't complain!" But it doesn't work like that, it's never perfect, so if that's what you're trying for as a parent, you can only fail. Constantly.

    Whereas if you relax about it, and just think of it as a learning process, it's fine.
    Pretty full on when you're in the middle of it, but it's not constant nappies for 20 years either, nor constant teenage angst. The days of kids coming along like steps of stairs as they used to say are over.

    So sure, it's tougher financially than without, and sure, you need to want the child/children yourself, not just for your partner or your mum, but it's also more than just the toughest parts of it.


    TL;DR: So think about what you want, long term, rather than about what someone else wants for you, or than about how scary it might seem to get there. That's what really matters.

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Jesus I didn't realise people actually thought like that, morning after pill because a Christmas baby might cramp their style too much. Pretty insensitive on a TTC forum, sake

    Mod:

    If you've a problem with a post, then report it.

    I considered delaying my fertility treatment by a couple of months because a birth would clash with a family wedding. Of course I told myself I was being ridiculous considering that the last 28 cycles were fruitless and two of those were with treatment. So I went ahead and guess what?

    I postponed our wedding because I got a BFP the week after I bought the dress. I could have gone ahead in another dress, but I'd already spent over a thousand on it and quite frankly, I was damned if I was going to spend a penny more on dressing myself, and I was damned if I was not going to wear the dress I fell in love with to our wedding.

    This forum regularly has days where one woman is losing her baby while another is announcing her BFP. People have posted in TTC about gender disappointment. I'd love to have the opportunity where gender disappointment could even be a factor for me. This forum is the epitome at times of unwitting or unknowing insensitivity towards someone. It's the nature of it I'm afraid. Whether it's considering the MAP or a TFMR or anything inbetween we are not going down the route where a woman is afraid to post how she feels for fear of triggering another person because they have a different TTC story to hers.

    If people cant be supportive then I'd ask that they don't post and step away from the thread until it's moved on and step back in when they are ready.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    phi3 wrote: »
    I think I would make a terrible mother. I have never been around kids. They don't tend to like me. I know my bf would make a great dad though. I suppose I'd have to learn as I go along.
    Reading backwards here, I know other people have picked up on this too, but I just wanted to say that being around other people's children is nothing like your own. I don't much like other people's kids, well not that I don't like them, and I'd always be kind to them, but I would never have looked to spend time with other people's children before I had any of my own. I found them boring. But it's just completely different when it's your own, it's hormonal I think, I don't think you can even help it really, so it's not like it makes you a nicer person or anything, it just happens!

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭xDisneyDivax


    volchitsa, thank you for your posts it was a lot of food for the thought which is good.

    I'm wondering how your men went around it, did they just say they feel ready or what?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    volchitsa, thank you for your posts it was a lot of food for the thought which is good.

    I'm wondering how your men went around it, did they just say they feel ready or what?

    No, not for the first one, who wasn't really planned, as I said. If I'd said I wanted an abortion I think he'd have been relieved, but I didn't. He was a bit horrified for about a week - well so was I, TBH.

    And then we decided that after all, we had jobs and the rest could all be sorted out. And that was it really. The decision was made. And he's been a great dad, (we're still together) so not being ready in his own mind at the start didn't mean he wasn't a good father.

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    volchitsa, thank you for your posts it was a lot of food for the thought which is good.

    I'm wondering how your men went around it, did they just say they feel ready or what?

    I was broody years before him. He did want kids at some unspecified point in the future. I think he hadn't really thought about the timescale that it could involve so one night with a bottle of wine I mapped it out for him - the year of ttc, a year /18 months of pregnancy and post partum, then ttc again, add in losses and all that starting with the age I was at the time (33). Thought no more of it then a week or so later he came back and it was like:

    Him: "hey, you know that thing you were talking about last week? I was thinking we should do it"
    Me: [not a notion what's going on ] Wha??
    Him: You were on about having a baby. Last week? Remember? Well I think we should start trying...
    And that was basically it. I came off the pill and we started to try.


  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    volchitsa, thank you for your posts it was a lot of food for the thought which is good.

    I'm wondering how your men went around it, did they just say they feel ready or what?

    Left to his own devices I don't think my husband would ever have been ready per se. He wanted to have kids, but was convinced that he would be a terrible father. I knew he wouldn't be (he is just really hard on himself) so I kinda had to have enough faith for the two of us that it would be ok.

    He is an amazing dad though, and it is extraordinary to watch him with them. I think I have never loved him more than watching him with the babas. Obviously it is not all sunshine and roses, I have probably never wanted to kill him more than I have over the last few months as well!!! Sleep deprivation will do that to a girl ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,649 ✭✭✭✭fits


    brokensoul wrote: »

    He is an amazing dad though, and it is extraordinary to watch him with them. I think I have never loved him more than watching him with the babas. Obviously it is not all sunshine and roses, I have probably never wanted to kill him more than I have over the last few months as well!!! Sleep deprivation will do that to a girl ;-)

    Oh how do I relate. The men really have to step up with twins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Kind of working on the logic that it could take up to a year to conceive. I am also aware that it could happen straight away- but ignoring that possibility for now...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Don't ignore it fully if you have been tracking your period (e.g. glow app). I literally got pregnant on our first attempt.... I know because my OH went out of town the next day and I assumed we wouldn't be lucky that month 🙈

    We've agreed to start trying again next month. I have a two year old. Equal parts terrified and excited. And that's when I want another baby!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭catrionanic


    +1 to getting lucky quickly. I'd been tracking my cycles so had a good idea of when would be best to do the deed, but even at that expected it to take a while. We had sex just twice in the whole month, but both times around my fertile window. Conceived straight away and couldn't believe our luck.


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,927 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    I got pregnant straight away on my son, wasn't tracking my cycle for TTC but I had that period tracker app purely so I'd know when aunt flo was likely to make an appearance.

    We've been trying for a second baby since October 2015 (jesus it's depressing typing that) and so far no luck. I knew it wasn't realistic to expect to get lucky straight away the second time around, but I wasn't expecting it to be this long and still no BFP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Not sure I could cope with ovulation tracking. Like we have sex about 3 times a week anyway so it's bound to fall at ovulation sooner or later. Just took my first folic acid tablet. Progress I guess...


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,927 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    I reckon at 3 times a week you'd be alright. We'd be about the same. When I got preggers first time around it would have been every night, however we were only married 2 months at that stage and we were 25 so surviving on 5 hours of sleep per night was totally do-able (pun intended :pac:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Toots wrote: »
    I got pregnant straight away on my son, wasn't tracking my cycle for TTC but I had that period tracker app purely so I'd know when aunt flo was likely to make an appearance.

    We've been trying for a second baby since October 2015 (jesus it's depressing typing that) and so far no luck. I knew it wasn't realistic to expect to get lucky straight away the second time around, but I wasn't expecting it to be this long and still no BFP.

    I'm so nervous. Praying all goes well. I'm lighter and fitter than last time but still have a v high BMI and I'm older so I'm very scared it won't be easy


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,927 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    I think we're in the same boat. I was heavier when I got pregnant last time, but what's playing on my mind was I had much more of a structure to my day, regular sleeping pattern etc, and I had just turned 25. Although, I'm on metformin since about September, and I have noticed my cycles getting shorter. The last 2 have been about 40 days which is a huge difference.

    You never know though, you could be pregnant super fast! Crossing my fingers for you :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Toots wrote: »
    I think we're in the same boat. I was heavier when I got pregnant last time, but what's playing on my mind was I had much more of a structure to my day, regular sleeping pattern etc, and I had just turned 25. Although, I'm on metformin since about September, and I have noticed my cycles getting shorter. The last 2 have been about 40 days which is a huge difference.

    You never know though, you could be pregnant super fast! Crossing my fingers for you :)

    My cycles are bang on regular and I still seem to ovulate early like I did before the first so I'm hoping that's a positive as to everything being ok. I guess I'll find out next month 🙈


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 katethegreat88


    Love this thread! I'm waiting to TTC also. I'm getting married this September so want to wait until after that!
    Have been on the pill 10 years, want to wait until the wedding is over to come off it, although i know it can take the body some time to readjust.... is it fine to take folic acid with the pill, planning to do this a few months before the wedding on the off chance i got pregnant straight off.
    also once off the pill plan to get blood tests done to make sure ive no issues!

    I'm not really great with other peoples kids myself but starting to feel broody already for my own!
    Also i wont be with the company long enough to get paid maternity leave if it happened within first 6months of trying but am starting to think that isn't that important any more that you manage to get by?


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,927 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    Yeah you're grand to take folic acid with the pill. Apparently all women of child bearing age should be taking it anyway, although I'll say the only time I consciously took it was when I was pregnant. Most multi vitamins for women have folic acid in them, so if you're taking multi vitamins you could very well be getting it anyway, but the recommendation is that you take it for 12 weeks before getting pregnant, so it'd be no harm to start taking it now anyway. It doesn't affect the pill or anything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    Really interested to see this thread - we're waiting to ttc as we've already got an almost two year old and I just don't know when I want to go again! We definitely want another but I just can't envision splitting my time at all. Financially the earliest it makes sense for us to try is August when toddler will be two and 3 months... last time it took us over 18 months


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Really interested to see this thread - we're waiting to ttc as we've already got an almost two year old and I just don't know when I want to go again! We definitely want another but I just can't envision splitting my time at all. Financially the earliest it makes sense for us to try is August when toddler will be two and 3 months... last time it took us over 18 months

    I have a two year old too. I have panic moments every now and then but I know I don't want them too far apart in age and they'll be at least three apart when we start TTC. That and my age are the two biggest factors for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    I have a two year old too. I have panic moments every now and then but I know I don't want them too far apart in age and they'll be at least three apart when we start TTC. That and my age are the two biggest factors for me

    I'm lucky in that I have age on my side - just really hoping that it doesn't take us as long next time round. Hopefully it won't as I should be a good few stone lighter than I was last time we conceived


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Toots wrote: »
    Yeah you're grand to take folic acid with the pill. Apparently all women of child bearing age should be taking it anyway, although I'll say the only time I consciously took it was when I was pregnant. Most multi vitamins for women have folic acid in them, so if you're taking multi vitamins you could very well be getting it anyway, but the recommendation is that you take it for 12 weeks before getting pregnant, so it'd be no harm to start taking it now anyway. It doesn't affect the pill or anything.

    Also important to note that if a persons BMI is even a point or two above 'average' then higher dose folic acid is recommended.


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,927 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    Merkin wrote: »
    Also important to note that if a persons BMI is even a point or two above 'average' then higher dose folic acid is recommended.

    Jaysus I just googled this and apparently if your BMI is 30 or above, a daily dose of 5milligrams is recommended. Seemingly you've to get that on prescription because the normal tablets you get in the likes of Boots have about 400 micrograms so you'd need to take like 12 in a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Toots wrote: »
    Jaysus I just googled this and apparently if your BMI is 30 or above, a daily dose of 5milligrams is recommended. Seemingly you've to get that on prescription because the normal tablets you get in the likes of Boots have about 400 micrograms so you'd need to take like 12 in a day.

    I know and I think it's a disgrace that it's not commonly flagged here. The NHS were sticklers for having notices up etc.

    FYI you can strictly speaking get the high dose folic acid without a script. It's on the pharmacists' list of medicines that they can dispense without prescription so if you're at all friendly with your local chemist they will sort you out :)

    It's so imperative that people take the right dose as carrying a bit of extra weight can have an impact on efficacy. It should also be taken for at least three months before conception.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    Merkin wrote: »
    I know and I think it's a disgrace that it's not commonly flagged here. The NHS were sticklers for having notices up etc.

    FYI you can strictly speaking get the high dose folic acid without a script. It's on the pharmacists' list of medicines that they can dispense without prescription so if you're at all friendly with your local chemist they will sort you out :)

    It's so imperative that people take the right dose as carrying a bit of extra weight can have an impact on efficacy. It should also be taken for at least three months before conception.

    It's actually illegal to sell it without prescription - your pharmacist may just be doing you a favour :)


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,927 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    Could you actually just take 12 of the other ones, or would there be horrible (diahorrea related) side effects?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    You could just take 12 of the standard ones... I did that last time when my prescription was up


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  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭xDisneyDivax


    Hi wondering if any ladies who previously have said they were also waiting to TTC have started? We had a big chat few weeks ago and we basically decided that we will start next month but that's if I get weight down a bit more so that I'm in 'healthy range' even though I lost two stones since January. So I have started looking in reflexology and kinelogosly in prep. I know folic was mentioned but is there anything else you would recommend? Pregcare?
    I also got ovulation test strips to check this month just because I saw them in dealz only €1.50!!lol started testing since start of this week because according to the app my ovulation day is on Friday so it is just all about learning better about my mid cycle for me at moment.
    So yeah I guess I'm moving from waiting to TTC towards TTC and to be honest it is quite scary!! Especially when we didn't have my dream honeymoon of Orlando yet and girls asked me about going to Thailand with them next year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Loveinapril


    It is really recommended to take folic acid from a few months before trying so get on that immediately. Pregnacare has folic acid and lots of other vitamins so I prefer that but I keep folic acid in the press for when I run out of Pregnacare. Folic acid is cheaper too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭xDisneyDivax


    I used to take folic regularly but for some reason I stopped in Feb! So must start again tomorrow as I still have a new bottle in the press! So cheers for mentioning the press reminded me!lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Hi wondering if any ladies who previously have said they were also waiting to TTC have started? We had a big chat few weeks ago and we basically decided that we will start next month but that's if I get weight down a bit more so that I'm in 'healthy range' even though I lost two stones since January. So I have started looking in reflexology and kinelogosly in prep. I know folic was mentioned but is there anything else you would recommend? Pregcare?
    I also got ovulation test strips to check this month just because I saw them in dealz only €1.50!!lol started testing since start of this week because according to the app my ovulation day is on Friday so it is just all about learning better about my mid cycle for me at moment.
    So yeah I guess I'm moving from waiting to TTC towards TTC and to be honest it is quite scary!! Especially when we didn't have my dream honeymoon of Orlando yet and girls asked me about going to Thailand with them next year!

    Well done on the weight loss. If you're still a bit over you need to be taking 5mg daily and ideally start it 3 months pre conception.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭mrsmags16


    I also got ovulation test strips to check this month just because I saw them in dealz only €1.50!!lol started testing since start of this week because according to the app my ovulation day is on Friday so it is just all about learning better about my mid cycle for me at moment.

    Do those at least twice a day, because it's very easy to miss a positive. They worked fine for me (I used them coming up to wedding to avoid getting pregnant and thereafter to GET pregnant but I didn't get a positive until I used them twice a day)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Supposed to be starting trying in 3 weeks and like 3 days..... It's way too close for comfort.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Loveinapril


    It is definitely a weird experience moving from trying desperately not to get pregnant to then actively trying!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    It is definitely a weird experience moving from trying desperately not to get pregnant to then actively trying!

    Yeah all the voices in my head are shouting "what the hell are you doing"


  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭xDisneyDivax


    mrsmags16 wrote: »
    Do those at least twice a day, because it's very easy to miss a positive. They worked fine for me (I used them coming up to wedding to avoid getting pregnant and thereafter to GET pregnant but I didn't get a positive until I used them twice a day)

    How far between two times you tested a day?


  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭xDisneyDivax


    Good to know that it ain't only me who feels like that phi3 & loveapril!! :P Even though we chatted about it on a deep extent few times it is still scary!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Loveinapril


    Good to know that it ain't only me who feels like that phi3 & loveapril!! :P Even though we chatted about it on a deep extent few times it is still scary!!

    Sure I am 9 weeks pregnant and still feel like that!!!


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