Dairy chit chat II

alps

What is the "fixation" with Nitrogen..

A farm, well managed, will easily grow 6 or 7 tonnes of grass without any N application..maybe more

The nitrogen only grows extra grass when conditions are beneficial.

What growth rates are guys still applying Nitrogen actually getting? Are you measuring? A good green colour does not automatically equal growth..

The limiting factor is moisture...at this time of the year, any well managed ground not limited by moisture will easily grow 40 or 50 a day without nitrogen...Are you above this?

While feed bills may be extreme at the moment, there can't be any benefit in adding to cost by wasting Nitrogen..

whelan2

Had a cow went down in milking parlour yesterday morning-disaster of a week so far--big old cow. She got one leg in the pit other leg out behind her and back stuck under the rump rail. Got her up and she walked out after about 20 minutes. I want to sent her to the factory, would there be damage to her meat from her ordeal?

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

Had a cow went down in milking parlour yesterday morning-disaster of a week so far--big old cow. She got one leg in the pit other leg out behind her and back stuck under the rump rail. Got her up and she walked out after about 20 minutes. I want to sent her to the factory, would there be damage to her meat from her ordeal?

There would be a bit of bruising I imagine. Could you wait a week or so before sending her?

Dakota Dan

I injected 2 cows with 40 ml tylosin each this evening on vets instructions 40ml first day 30ml next 2 days. Now both cows are restless even though it says overdosing causes no side effects. I usually give them 25 ml in one injection for 4 days.

Wildsurfer

Dakota Dan wrote: »

I injected 2 cows with 40 ml tylosin each this evening on vets instructions 40ml first day 30ml next 2 days. Now both cows are restless even though it says overdosing causes no side effects. I usually give them 25 ml in one injection for 4 days.

Maybe they're just restless when they see you coming in case you're going to stick them with a big needle again! 40ml never caused a problem here anyways.

Dakota Dan

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Maybe they're just restless when they see you coming in case you're going to stick them with a big needle again! 40ml never caused a problem here anyways.

They were restless after milking out in the field, they could hardly see a needle coming. They didn't graze and stayed by the ditch lying down and getting up every few minutes.

Mooooo

What do they have? Tylosin would be no bother to cows 're dosage. Any chance it's the first signs of photosynthesization?

dar31

Dakota Dan wrote: »

I injected 2 cows with 40 ml tylosin each this evening on vets instructions 40ml first day 30ml next 2 days. Now both cows are restless even though it says overdosing causes no side effects. I usually give them 25 ml in one injection for 4 days.

What was the vet treating them for?
Injections would cause no problems.
Some other issue raising its head.

Keepgrowing

mahoney_j wrote: »

Lots of trial work going on in fairness ,1.85 kgms very respectable at this stage considering no grass is pretty good

Doing that here with meal and silage and only midding cows, half winter ladies included in that

greysides

Mooooo wrote: »

What do they have? Tylosin would be no bother to cows 're dosage. Any chance it's the first signs of photosynthesization?

I would agree. It's not much of an overdose, at normal strength of Tylosin, 20%, 40 ml is the dose for an 800 Kg cow.

freedominacup

Mooooo wrote: »

What do they have? Tylosin would be no bother to cows 're dosage. Any chance it's the first signs of photosynthesization?

Sounds very like photosythesization alright. Vet straightaway.

Dakota Dan

freedominacup wrote: »

Sounds very like photosythesization alright. Vet straightaway.

They were back to normal an hour after. They are high cell counts cows, maybe just the shock of two injections together.

Gawddawggonnit

Just loaded two artics of old season hay and one of new season hay.
Destined for the south and south east.
One merchant looking for 1k tons of hay...
It begins again.

Gawddawggonnit

alps wrote: »

What is the "fixation" with Nitrogen..

A farm, well managed, will easily grow 6 or 7 tonnes of grass without any N application..maybe more

The nitrogen only grows extra grass when conditions are beneficial.

What growth rates are guys still applying Nitrogen actually getting? Are you measuring? A good green colour does not automatically equal growth..

The limiting factor is moisture...at this time of the year, any well managed ground not limited by moisture will easily grow 40 or 50 a day without nitrogen...Are you above this?

While feed bills may be extreme at the moment, there can't be any benefit in adding to cost by wasting Nitrogen..

+100!

stretch film

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

+100!

Proof for ye.
Flushed out an old well to have it for a reserve of some sort a fortnight ago

Edit upside down ....why mods



EDIT, maybe you had the phone upside down? Or the water wanted to get back down the well. I ain't no IT expert I'm just a fekkin farmer:D

Burning Tires

stretch film wrote: »

Proof for ye.
Flushed out an old well to have it for a reserve of some sort a fortnight ago

Edit upside down ....why mods

Are you left handed, Stretch?

blackdog1

Gawddawggonnit wrote:

Just loaded two artics of old season hay and one of new season hay. Destined for the south and south east. One merchant looking for 1k tons of hay... It begins again.

Careful now you'll get another phone call.....

Dakota Dan

Are these lads wasting time and diesel? Same farm was water logged in April.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gy2XqWig1Q4

gozunda

stretch film wrote: »

Proof for ye.
Flushed out an old well to have it for a reserve of some sort a fortnight ago

Edit upside down ....why mods

Australian?

alps

#icis #urea #93rd Annual Southwestern Fertilizer Conference -Mood of the fertilizer market pretty bearish in the US Midwest - bumper harvest and low grain and corn prices not great for farmers or fertilizer sector.

Hopefully this will keep the price of straights at an affordable level...we'll need some amount if them this winter

freedominacup

gozunda wrote: »

Australian?

The phone or the landscape?

stretch film

freedominacup wrote: »

The phone or the landscape?

Good one mate

gozunda

freedominacup wrote: »

The phone or the landscape?

The grass ...

Bo dearg

Anyone do anything more about getting tillage farmer to put in cover crop??

Say my name

stretch film wrote: »

Proof for ye.
Flushed out an old well to have it for a reserve of some sort a fortnight ago

Edit upside down ....why mods



EDIT, maybe you had the phone upside down? Or the water wanted to get back down the well. I ain't no IT expert I'm just a fekkin farmer:D

Are you in a high molybdenum area?

Gawddawggonnit

https://www.grain.org/article/entries/5976-emissions-impossible-how-big-meat-and-dairy-are-heating-up-the-planet.pdf

Gawddawggonnit

blackdog1 wrote: »

Careful now you'll get another phone call.....

Lol.
I know!

See no evil, hear no evil.

‘Nothing to see here folks, move along’...:)

Gawddawggonnit

Bo dearg wrote: »

Anyone do anything more about getting tillage farmer to put in cover crop??

Putting it into the ground with the last few days.
A mix inc moha and clovers planted 13days is flying. About 6” tall now and ready to tiller. Can’t post a pic, says file too large...

Gawddawggonnit

http://www.antaisce.org/articles/agriculture-committee-report-on-climate-change-promotes-myths-and-denies-reality

Gawddawggonnit

alps wrote: »

Hopefully this will keep the price of straights at an affordable level...we'll need some amount if them this winter

Grains are on the floor with 6yrs Alps, how long more would you like to be supported for?