Dairy chit chat II

Gawddawggonnit

freedominacup wrote: »

You're adamant that these will germinate without moisture everyone I talk to including people you have mentioned is just as adamant that without rain being at least in the forecast it's a waste of money. You obviously have no dog in the fight but have plenty of experience with these crops. I'm going to burn off a failed reseed and get one of the mixtures you mentioned and see what happens.

€12k of squarrosum quadriglia going into the ground, in one way or another, from Mon morning...enough skin in the game? .


When do you need to get the cover off before reseeding?

Gawddawggonnit

Reggie. wrote: »

Or me gawd

Yes!
Reggie’s machine would be better than a broken gate for planting covers.

Gawddawggonnit

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

They are and I will not deal with them. Dealt with them once and not again.

Can be black enough myself when/if wronged.

Reggie.

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Yes!
Reggie’s machine would be better than a broken gate for planting covers.

Already had a few calls about can I sow this, that and the other

freedominacup

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

€12k of squarrosum quadriglia going into the ground, in one way or another, from Mon morning...enough skin in the game? .


When do you need to get the cover off before reseeding?

Don't get me wrong. I meant it'll make no difference to you what happens in my case. All the suppliers seem to be deathly afraid of planting anything atm.

Say my name

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

They are and I will not deal with them. Dealt with them once and not again.

I'd be lost without that company now at this stage.
From the fert deliveries to plastic and grass seed. Two different salesmen for different parts but each very easy deal with and both top-notch.
I know this sounds like a sales pitch for them but that's just my experience.
They're a godsend to the usual Glanbia.

GrasstoMilk

Say my name wrote: »

I'd be lost without that company now at this stage.
From the fert deliveries to plastic and grass seed. Two different salesmen for different parts but each very easy deal with and both top-notch.
I know this sounds like a sales pitch for them but that's just my experience.
They're a godsend to the usual Glanbia.

I know plenty who do get on very well with them, but when ye strike a deal for an artic load of fert and then get the bill the next week for what was taken off it soured me aswell as that they didn't send fert for ten days and paid on the nose. Have various other reasons aswell, one being farming is only a hobby for Walter and he's stopping young farmers or anyone for that matter from expanding there business. It doesn't sit right with me to be subsidising it

I'm sure you'd go to Alfie for the new case?

Say my name

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

I know plenty who do get on very well with them, but when ye strike a deal for an artic load of fert and then get the bill the next week for what was taken off it soured me aswell as that they didn't send fert for ten days and paid on the nose. Have various other reasons aswell, one being farming is only a hobby for Walter and he's stopping young farmers or anyone for that matter from expanding there business. It doesn't sit right with me to be subsidising it

I used to think that way too but then I won't make one hell of a difference either way. So I roll with it instead now.
There's plenty of posters on this forum even who it wouldn't effect them one bit if their farming business went wallop on both ends of the scale.
I'd put the blame more solely on the Eu for the emergence of the tillage barons just in our county alone. They're a product from legislation.
We now have the emergence of dairy barons in this county now lately too with 600 being reached this year in place/places. Everyone is scrapping now for everything in this county, land, fodder, etc. Give it a few years though to calm down. Athough by that stage there might be no small farmers left with managers and slaves working on estates. Anyways I digress...

On the payment I think that's standard practice now with most companies to give themselves some leeway to reward the early payers and cover themselves against the late payers. On paper first and payment are two different animals.

Say my name

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

I'm sure you'd go to Alfie for the new case?

I think you know I have relations who used to sell those tractors.

Once the special introductory dealer allowance is over then it'll show the true meat of the business.

Alfie is a decent man. If he's still selling them when I win the lotto I'll definitely buy.

(It's harder sell the big lumps of tractors secondhand).
Time will tell.

whelan2

Say my name wrote: »

I used to think that way too but then I won't make one hell of a difference either way. So I roll with it instead now.
There's plenty of posters on this forum even who it wouldn't effect them one bit if their farming business went wallop on both ends of the scale.
I'd put the blame more solely on the Eu for the emergence of the tillage barons just in our county alone. They're a product from legislation.
We now have the emergence of dairy barons in this county now lately too with 600 being reached this year in place/places. Everyone is scrapping now for everything in this county, land, fodder, etc. Give it a few years though to calm down. Athough by that stage there might be no small farmers left with managers and slaves working on estates. Anyways I digress...

On the payment I think that's standard practice now with most companies to give themselves some leeway to reward the early payers and cover themselves against the late payers. On paper first and payment are two different animals.

If you agree a price though that price should be on the paperwork

whelan2

It's a long time since I used farm relief services. Is there an annual fee you pay to them. Or how does the membership work?

Timmaay

whelan2 wrote: »

It's a long time since I used farm relief services. Is there an annual fee you pay to them. Or how does the membership work?

100e annual fee.

Say my name

whelan2 wrote: »

If you agree a price though that price should be on the paperwork

It'll be on the receipt slip.

(That's the important bit).

alps

Some very interesting reads on the cotswold seeds website, with most of the mixtures linking to a farmer first hand video like this..

https://youtu.be/8fOdnVjhzSw

GrasstoMilk

alps wrote: »

Some very interesting reads on the cotswold seeds website, with most of the mixtures linking to a farmer first hand video like this..

https://youtu.be/8fOdnVjhzSw

A member of my DG sows it. It replaces the straw in the TMR for him.
If your passing Ferns GAA pitch anytime this year it's in on the right as you head into ferns before the pitch

whelan2

Ordered 10 boxes of milking gloves last week size medium. Opened the first box this morning and they are all xl. First time milking with no gloves in years. Felt weird. Will have to check the order later. Disaster

Mf310

whelan2 wrote:

Ordered 10 boxes of milking gloves last week size medium. Opened the first box this morning and they are all xl. First time milking with no gloves in years. Felt weird. Will have to check the order later. Disaster

Just on that anyone using milkmaster gloves by keron using them here the last year great glove would get a couple of days out of them and they wouldnt rip although in recent box noticed them alot lighter and tear in the middle of milking . It was the whole reason i was buying them that i wouldnt be changing gloves in parlour wont be buying more

kowtow

Does anybody here use Deosan Mastocide (the thick blue teat dip)... and if so how do you get it to work in an Ambic teatsprayer system (the usual one - Jetstream I think).. does it need some kind of conversion kit? Just comes out of the gun in blobs so far....

visatorro

3.83 fat, 3,33 prot, 153 scc, 22 urea. 16 litres and falling! Zero grass. Very middling silage with 1 kilo of soya hulls and 1kilo of four way mix thru wagon . 4 kilos of 16% hi maize in parlour. Water supply seems to be holding. Half winter herd, they have struggled badly for yield. Scanning the end of the month.

Covered half the farm with pasture swarth today.

straight

visatorro wrote: »

3.83 fat, 3,33 prot, 153 scc, 22 urea. 16 litres and falling! Zero grass. Very middling silage with 1 kilo of soya hulls and 1kilo of four way mix thru wagon . 4 kilos of 16% hi maize in parlour. Water supply seems to be holding. Half winter herd, they have struggled badly for yield. Scanning the end of the month.

Covered half the farm with pasture swarth today.

Fair play to you for your honesty. Will you be making any changes for the future like lowering your stocking rate, etc. Not knowing your exact situation but with the weather extremes we're getting I think we'll all have to be pulling back from trying to maximise numbers.

Wildsurfer

kowtow wrote: »

Does anybody here use Deosan Mastocide (the thick blue teat dip)... and if so how do you get it to work in an Ambic teatsprayer system (the usual one - Jetstream I think).. does it need some kind of conversion kit? Just comes out of the gun in blobs so far....

I think you answered your own question... It's a teat dip not a teat spray.

Mooooo

visatorro wrote: »

3.83 fat, 3,33 prot, 153 scc, 22 urea. 16 litres and falling! Zero grass. Very middling silage with 1 kilo of soya hulls and 1kilo of four way mix thru wagon . 4 kilos of 16% hi maize in parlour. Water supply seems to be holding. Half winter herd, they have struggled badly for yield. Scanning the end of the month.

Covered half the farm with pasture swarth today.

When are you calving in the winter? Perhaps consider drying off the winter milkers? What's in the four way mix? If all silage perhaps up the protein, see if you can get a quick sample of the silage tested and try have the diet at 16%p. Your scc is good considering, a lot better than mine. Not used to urea results, maybe others may saying that indicates if dietary protein is ok? Cow condition is most important so if that's holding ok you are on the right track.

whelan2

Ordered a load of nuts at 11am and they are being delivered now .

whelan2

Mooooo wrote: »

When are you calving in the winter? Perhaps consider drying off the winter milkers? What's in the four way mix? If all silage perhaps up the protein, see if you can get a quick sample of the silage tested and try have the diet at 16%p. Your scc is good considering, a lot better than mine. Not used to urea results, maybe others may saying that indicates if dietary protein is ok? Cow condition is most important so if that's holding ok you are on the right track.

Milk urea is fine.

mf240

It's a mess of a year. I wouldn't be worrying about litres once cows are in good nick.

I would be slow to reduce numbers just on the back of one crap year, in the same way I wouldn't up numbers after a great year.

Mooooo

whelan2 wrote: »

Ordered a load of nuts at 11am and they are being delivered now .

Some going, dairygold are 6 to 8 days. Just flatout

whelan2

Mooooo wrote: »

Some going, dairygold are 6 to 8 days. Just flatout

Was surprised as lad I ordered them off said Wednesday at the earliest. Thats the worst of the meal bin , you dont have too much warning that you need to order

Timmaay

visatorro wrote: »

3.83 fat, 3,33 prot, 153 scc, 22 urea. 16 litres and falling! Zero grass. Very middling silage with 1 kilo of soya hulls and 1kilo of four way mix thru wagon . 4 kilos of 16% hi maize in parlour. Water supply seems to be holding. Half winter herd, they have struggled badly for yield. Scanning the end of the month.

Covered half the farm with pasture swarth today.

Bump up the hulls to 5kg and reduce back the silage as much as you can I'd suggest. When I was pricking about afew weeks ago here just trying to feed silage and a small bit of grass the yields crashed to similar, but back up to 20l now, cows now on 4kg hulls, 5kg silage, 5kg parlour nuts and maybe 2kg grass now and holding OK.

Mooooo

whelan2 wrote: »

Was surprised as lad I ordered them off said Wednesday at the earliest. Thats the worst of the meal bin , you dont have too much warning that you need to order

Have a Crowley one here has 4 sight glasses in it. For the load that came sat I just worked out how long the previous load would last and told them When i'd be out and it was bang on. Haven't calibrated the feeders in a long time but always nuts here so seems to be someway right anyway

straight

mf240 wrote: »

It's a mess of a year. I wouldn't be worrying about litres once cows are in good nick.

I would be slow to reduce numbers just on the back of one crap year, in the same way I wouldn't up numbers after a great year.

2 crap years