Dairy chit chat II

Mooooo

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Av growth of 80 here for the last 5 days. Went from getting 2 grazings per paddock to 3 grazings in one day.

Will you be taking any out? In two minds what to do here will prob take a few acres of heifer ground but debating whether or not to graze ground or close it for first cut on milking ground and carry on with second round. Covers a bit low with lower temp for the rest of week

visatorro

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Protection from vampires, most definitely. Reduce SCC, I wouldn't be so sure...

Could be the vampires causing the high cell count!!

GrasstoMilk

Mooooo wrote: »

Will you be taking any out? In two minds what to do here will prob take a few acres of heifer ground but debating whether or not to graze ground or close it for first cut on milking ground and carry on with second round. Covers a bit low with lower temp for the rest of week

No nothing coming out for silage. Stocked at 3.8 and have 9% of the platform earmarked for reseeding. Getting very good regrowths on what's been grazed the second time, second grazing really wakes the grass plant up I think.

Maybe lock up what's too strong and cut it on 2-3weeks? Keep the fert out behind the cows

kowtow

Mooooo wrote:

Does that stuff stay together when it's cut?

We crimp the ends on to gate handles etc... for a really neat job get some electrical cable heat shrink wrap to finish it off.

The problem we find is that it stretches after a while.. not quite as hard wearing as the rope stuff.

Mooooo

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Say my name

When the subject is on stretchy wire.

Anyone ever hear tell of lads being able to drive a tractor over an electric fence without leaving the cab to open gaps etc?
I heard someone say sometime that in New Zealand some people put that bungee wire or springs on wire and that you just approach the wire from a 45 degree angle on the tractor so that there should be a wheel keeping the wire down on the ground as you're driving over it.

I never seen anyone do it or knowing me if I tried it the wire would get caught on the step or something.

Never wrestle with pigs

I've seen those ones that are spring loaded. They sort of look like fishing rods.

GrasstoMilk

Has Anyone here ringed bulls themselves or is it a vet job?
Have 3teasers here, they're quite enough ATM but might not always stay that way

alps

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Has Anyone here ringed bulls themselves or is it a vet job?
Have 3teasers here, they're quite enough ATM but might not always stay that way

We have a guy for hoof paring, dehorning, dosing etc who does it for us. I'm slow to be the one inflicting pain on a bull in case he "remembers it"...

charolais0153

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Has Anyone here ringed bulls themselves or is it a vet job?
Have 3teasers here, they're quite enough ATM but might not always stay that way

What age are they? Done a lad yesterday with anaesthesia, i wouldnt like to do the same lad without it. Vet job unless ypu have something tp sedate them a small bit

whelan2

We do our own. That said had to get hoof care man with crate to do the last one he was a lunatic....

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

We do our own. That said had to get hoof care man with crate to do the last one he was a lunatic....

Is it his kids I have :eek:

whelan2

Reggie. wrote: »

Is it his kids I have :eek:

No, he's a pet. This lad would jump over the crush gate rather than put his head through.

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

No, he's a pet. This lad would jump over the crush gate rather than put his head through.

Had the welder half out to do abit of reinforcement there

Say my name

Ye can make your own minds up on this one.

But still worth a gander at to see what's happening on the other side of the world.

https://vimeo.com/265869119

Timmaay

Say my name wrote: »

Ye can make your own minds up on this one.

But still worth a gander at to see what's happening on the other side of the world.

https://vimeo.com/265869119

I watched the 1st 3mins. Basically harping on about how the farmers where that stupid they just stored all their slurry in a hole in the ground, and lobbed it out on the grassland where it only grew weeds... Then I skipped forward afew min, to where I heard Diddy eye music and some fantastic solution they came up with. However I don't have the time or will to watch it right, give me the gist of it please, or tell me straight out is the whole video some sort of snake oil?

Say my name

Timmaay wrote: »

I watched the 1st 3mins. Basically harping on about how the farmers where that stupid they just stored all their slurry in a hole in the ground, and lobbed it out on the grassland where it only grew weeds... Then I skipped forward afew min, to where I heard Diddy eye music and some fantastic solution they came up with. However I don't have the time or will to watch it right, give me the gist of it please, or tell me straight out is the whole video some sort of snake oil?

Ehh it's showing paddock comparisons of ones that use compost and one's that don't.
Saying that farmers have to reseed paddocks every few years and get in Reggie because a cow pulls at the grass and the whole plant comes up and then the sward becomes gappy and open.
Then more diseases and unhealthy stock because more anaerobic slurry being spread and farmers being slaves to the farm med companies.
There is an element of truth to the whole clip I think.

I'm all straw bedding here and I'm going to sound all preachy now but I wouldn't have a clue about the drugs that posters do be going on about here.
I had a cow starting to calve this morning when I went for the cows and by the time I got back with the cows the calf was up and sucking.

Timmaay

Say my name wrote: »

Ehh it's showing paddock comparisons of ones that use compost and one's that don't.
Saying that farmers have to reseed paddocks every few years and get in Reggie because a cow pulls at the grass and the whole plant comes up and then the sward becomes gappy and open.
Then more diseases and unhealthy stock because more anaerobic slurry being spread and farmers being slaves to the farm med companies.
There is an element of truth to the whole clip I think.

I'm all straw bedding here and I'm going to sound all preachy now but I wouldn't have a clue about the drugs that posters do be going on about here.
I had a cow starting to calve this morning when I went for the cows and by the time I got back with the cows the calf was up and sucking.

Ha sorry it was worth watching so.

visatorro

Cows standing at the gap since half one. Plenty of grass. Combination of rain and cows being spoiled!

farisfat

visatorro wrote: »

Cows standing at the gap since half one. Plenty of grass. Combination of rain and cows being spoiled!

Don't give in.

visatorro

farisfat wrote: »

Don't give in.

They're gone back to it now. Few bawls outta them. Close the wire and turn up the telly me thinks

Reggie.

visatorro wrote: »

They're gone back to it now. Few bawls outta them. Close the wire and turn up the telly me thinks

Treat them like the kids

visatorro

Reggie. wrote: »

Treat them like the kids

Christ!

Sillycave

Just wondering would people be more interested in springing heifers or calved heifers in Feb?
If calved typically how long after calving would be a good time to sell?

whelan2

co-op perfprmance reports are up on icbf

Wildsurfer

Say my name wrote: »

Ehh it's showing paddock comparisons of ones that use compost and one's that don't.
Saying that farmers have to reseed paddocks every few years and get in Reggie because a cow pulls at the grass and the whole plant comes up and then the sward becomes gappy and open.
Then more diseases and unhealthy stock because more anaerobic slurry being spread and farmers being slaves to the farm med companies.
There is an element of truth to the whole clip I think.

I'm all straw bedding here and I'm going to sound all preachy now but I wouldn't have a clue about the drugs that posters do be going on about here.
I had a cow starting to calve this morning when I went for the cows and by the time I got back with the cows the calf was up and sucking.

Wow calf was up and sucking, I spread slurry so obviously I've never seen that. Calves just fall over and die after birth. Seriously what are you talking about.

Say my name

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Wow calf was up and sucking, I spread slurry so obviously I've never seen that. Calves just fall over and die after birth. Seriously what are you talking about.

A cow calving quickly or a person walking slowly.

Say my name

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Wow calf was up and sucking, I spread slurry so obviously I've never seen that. Calves just fall over and die after birth. Seriously what are you talking about.

I'm only learning myself but...

Have you experienced sod pulling?

The cause could be that that field received slurry which contained anaerobic bacteria. Anerobic bacteria can produce toxic compounds that limit root growth and predispose plants to root infections.
It'll be made worse if the ground is any way saturated with water or predisposed to saturation.

gozunda

Say my name wrote: »

I'm only learning myself but...

Have you experienced sod pulling?

The cause could be that that field received slurry which contained anaerobic bacteria. Anerobic bacteria can produce toxic compounds that limit root growth and predispose plants to root infections. It'll be made worse if the ground is any way saturated with water or predisposed to saturation.

What that video was shown was Australian conditions with very intensive / large-scale operations. Looks like high stocking rates from what was said and the amount of slurry spread was above anything I've seen elsewhere tbh. Hence the issue with 'sod pulling' and poor growth of grass. I think there problem does not include saturated soils from high levels of rainfall - the opposite of going by that video imo.

blackdog1

gozunda wrote:

What that video was shown was Australian conditions with very intensive / large-scale operations. Looks like high stocking rates from what was said and the amount of slurry spread was above anything I've seen elsewhere tbh. Hence the issue with 'sod pulling' and poor growth of grass. I think there problem does not include saturated soils from high levels of rainfall - the opposite of going by that video imo.

It's a very interesting video and alot of what she says rings true. I think that the use of composte vs liquid slurry would be a worthwhile project for Teagasc. I find my older paddocks that never get slurry and haven't been reseeded in 30 years are just as productive as new grass and I've noticed especially this year they are alot firmer under foot. Also we can't spread slurry in the winter but we could spread composte so it might be a way to lessen pressure on tanks in the winter months. If it was easy and cost effective to make vs slurry spreading it would be well worth a try in my own opinion.