Dairy chit chat II

Mooooo

Cows in fulltime since last night. In calf heifers in as well. Yearlings and spring calves still out. Tried cows in a paddock for a few hours yday just too wet even for a short period . About 13 acres with a 2k cover and another 12 with 1600 maybe. Will use young stock to graze it if weather calms a bit. Drawback of having incalf heifers on kale last year is the fcukers are slow to lie on thr cubicles. Cows up to about 8 litres now

Timmaay

How soon can you start feeding maize? Pitted here on Tue.

Keepgrowing

Mooooo wrote: »

Cows in fulltime since last night. In calf heifers in as well. Yearlings and spring calves still out. Tried cows in a paddock for a few hours yday just too wet even for a short period . About 13 acres with a 2k cover and another 12 with 1600 maybe. Will use young stock to graze it if weather calms a bit. Drawback of having incalf heifers on kale last year is the fcukers are slow to lie on thr cubicles. Cows up to about 8 litres now

Cows milking 8 litres or up 8 litres since housing?

Mooooo

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Cows milking 8 litres or up 8 litres since housing?

Up to about 8, lost power and couldn't get hold of generator weren't milked for 50 hours. Coming back a bit, upped the meal. Will dry off a few that haven't come up and treating a few more for mastitis. All in all a disaster. Lucky Autumn calving only started last night.

K.G.

Mooooo wrote: »

Up to about 8, lost power and couldn't get hold of generator weren't milked for 50 hours. Coming back a bit, upped the meal. Will dry off a few that haven't come up and treating a few more for mastitis. All in all a disaster. Lucky Autumn calving only started last night.

Generater starting to look cheaper every day when youlook at lost potenial.priced 45 kva @3500incl vst.stupid being with out one really

Mooooo

A heifer landed to join the 3 bulls. One starts and they all get in the mood

whelan2

Mooooo wrote: »

A heifer landed to join the 3 bulls. One starts and they all get in the mood

Had a terrible run of fr bulls here

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mooooo wrote: »

A heifer landed to join the 3 bulls. One starts and they all get in the mood

You can't bate youth :pac:

Mooooo

K.G. wrote: »

Generater starting to look cheaper every day when youlook at lost potenial.priced 45 kva @3500incl vst.stupid being with out one really

Yeah foolish really. Luckily only damage to a leanto and a lot of trees down. Will replace the leanto roof in coming weeks. Neighbour had one side of a rel new roof peeled back like a tin can

Brown Podzol

Mooooo wrote: »

Up to about 8, lost power and couldn't get hold of generator weren't milked for 50 hours. Coming back a bit, upped the meal. Will dry off a few that haven't come up and treating a few more for mastitis. All in all a disaster. Lucky Autumn calving only started last night.

Seems you can get back up to 100% of what yield you had previously after three or four days. A link here that was posted on Twitter, though this study was done on cows calves 115 days, may not be as successful on cows calves 200 days or more.


http://www.nzsap.org/system/files/proceedings/2006/ab06048.pdf

alps

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Seems you can get back up to 100% of what yield you had previously after three or four days. A link here that was posted on Twitter, though this study was done on cows calves 115 days, may not be as successful on cows calves 200 days or more.


http://www.nzsap.org/system/files/proceedings/2006/ab06048.pdf

I wouldn't be so confident of them coming back up without an effort on the farmers part. I think if you want them back up you need to up the energy and protein to a level far higher than they would ordinarily require, to override any inbuilt trigger that the cow has to dry off.

The message sent to her over the past week, with OAD and inside from pasture will have given the cow that message that the production season is over and it is now time to divert MJ's to the growing calf and to body condition.

Get out to grass on every opportunity, up meal to a high 18/21 protein at 6kg. It's payback for the treatment last week and in many cases there is still 10% of the production year left, at very high milk price.

Once back in track, you can relax the inputs, but why leave production behind....shell be dry for long enough..

straight

Cows in by night here, out for a few hours a day. Milk has dropped to 14 litres on 3 kg meal.

mf240

I think the moos moos are finished grazing for this year.

There not too bothered by the looks of them.

Mooooo

Have upped the meal to 8, for a bit anyway, grass will be days away if at all and silage bales aren't as good as I thought. Will give it a week and see how it goes

whelan2

mf240 wrote: »

I think the moos moos are finished grazing for this year.

There not too bothered by the looks of them.

When would you normally house them? I think we were spoilt this last few years with great weather at the back end

mahoney_j

alps wrote: »

I wouldn't be so confident of them coming back up without an effort on the farmers part. I think if you want them back up you need to up the energy and protein to a level far higher than they would ordinarily require, to override any inbuilt trigger that the cow has to dry off.

The message sent to her over the past week, with OAD and inside from pasture will have given the cow that message that the production season is over and it is now time to divert MJ's to the growing calf and to body condition.

Get out to grass on every opportunity, up meal to a high 18/21 protein at 6kg. It's payback for the treatment last week and in many cases there is still 10% of the production year left, at very high milk price.

Once back in track, you can relax the inputs, but why leave production behind....shell be dry for long enough..

On the money .....

mf240

whelan2 wrote: »

When would you normally house them? I think we were spoilt this last few years with great weather at the back end

Would usually run out of grass by now. But have grass this year but weather beat me. Stocking rate lower this year as I managed to get a few extra acres

mahoney_j

whelan2 wrote: »

When would you normally house them? I think we were spoilt this last few years with great weather at the back end

I’m pushing for a Sr over 3.5 on a dry farm and I think I need to budget for cows been in from third week October on at night and full time from end first week November latest

whelan2

mf240 wrote: »

Would usually run out of grass by now. But have grass this year but weather beat me. Stocking rate lower this year as I managed to get a few extra acres

I was giving out about cows being in early today, my mother said 10th October was always the date they would be in at night and 10 of April to have them out by day :eek: fair reminder of how things used to be, would be a long winter

mf240

whelan2 wrote: »

I was giving out about cows being in early today, my mother said 10th October was always the date they would be in at night and 10 of April to have them out by day :eek: fair reminder of how things used to be, would be a long winter

Tbh once I have enough silage for them I don't mind them being in.

mahoney_j

mf240 wrote: »

Tbh once I have enough silage for them I don't mind them being in.

Always find once I start feeding out silage it’s nearly easier have everything in ,one bust in morning and everything fed and I’ve rest of day to be a lazy auld fart !!!!!

Signpost

How recent must the service report be for the Bord Bia inspection?

kowtow

straight wrote:

Cows in by night here, out for a few hours a day. Milk has dropped to 14 litres on 3 kg meal.

Cows averaging 15 litres here with range from 8l to 22l.

4kg of meal, indoors on silage.

Have been OAD for some weeks now but had two 30 and 36 hour breaks while we worked around the storm..

awaywithyou

What would be a simple ration to put thru silage in diet feeder for milking cows....? Not interested in anything complicated...

Mooooo

awaywithyou wrote: »

What would be a simple ration to put thru silage in diet feeder for milking cows....? Not interested in anything complicated...

Depends on silage, and what you are feeding in the parlour. 3 way mix of maize barley and beet pulp maybe. Use parlour nut for protein then maybe

mahoney_j

awaywithyou wrote: »

What would be a simple ration to put thru silage in diet feeder for milking cows....? Not interested in anything complicated...

Depends on lots of things ,are fresh cows in group ,silage quality and what level production u want diet to achieve

Keepgrowing

awaywithyou wrote: »

What would be a simple ration to put thru silage in diet feeder for milking cows....? Not interested in anything complicated...

Shear grab and 4-5kg good quality nut. Park feeder

K.G.

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Shear grab and 4-5kg good quality nut. Park feeder

What ,are you mad?.you have to have a diet feeder

GrasstoMilk

How far can you put a feeding area away from where cows will be for the winter?
Probably will have to go 50 ft away for one here as shed is in the middle of the yard and can't put a feeding passage right out side

K.G.

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

How far can you put a feeding area away from where cows will be for the winter?
Probably will have to go 50 ft away for one here as shed is in the middle of the yard and can't put a feeding passage right out side

The problem with moving away is slurry and work.is it all covered between the two places