Amazon & Ireland : This item does not ship to Ireland

aindriu80

Hi,

I'm getting fed up browsing on Amazon.co.uk only to read: This item does not ship to Ireland. Its high time that someone here started a petition to get the likes of Amazon to stop treating us like like North Korea and ship.

They ship to Northern Ireland so its obvious that they really just don't like us for personal reasons.

I'm still getting ripped off even when they do ship.

kierank01

most of the items that don't ship to Ireland are not sold by amazon themselves, but by 3rd party resellers on the amazon market place.

It is nothing to do with amazon, just the resellers making a business decision.
Those that do ship, charge a lot, whether the costs are justified, i'm not sure.

Just ship your items to parcel motel in Belfast, and forget about it.

aindriu80

I have a parcel motel address and for small items its ok. Here is just one example: Citric Acid - 1 kg @ £4.80. It costs Postage & Packaging £32.37

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00WQ7632E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2P68WJGI9K46S

It should fit into Parcel Motel and save me a bit....

But my Amazon packages are usually big boxes to prevent damage. Its not long till they don't fit into the small lockers @ Parcel Motel. Shipping to Ireland shouldn't be constantly blocked. It's just down to personal dislikes.

L1011

aindriu80 wrote: »

It's just down to personal dislikes.

No, its usually down to cost or legalities.

I think you've got a bit of a complex here.

livedadream

amazon charge third party sellers based on their account, if they only ship to the uk they get charged a set rate, international: big bucks.
and most 3rd party sellers make their money on postage so the further they have to ship, the less they make, its why you can buy books for 1 cent but postage is 2:25.

kierank01

Its not perfect of course...

Parcel motel do handle oversize items. I got a printer shipped fro free to Belfast, and PM charged 10.50 for me to collect it at a nightline depot.

It was a couple of years ago, so the cost may have changed, but seemed like good value to me at the time...

Stoner

kierank01 wrote:

It was a couple of years ago, so the cost may have changed, but seemed like good value to me at the time...

I didn't know they did that very good to know

aindriu80

L1011 wrote: »

No, its usually down to cost or legalities.

I think you've got a bit of a complex here.

I have a bit of a complex ? No I am a consumer and I'm not happy with not being able to get items shipped over from Amazon.co.uk.

L1011

aindriu80 wrote: »

I have a bit of a complex ? No I am a consumer and I'm not happy with not being able to get items shipped over from Amazon.co.uk.

You are imagining non-existent dislikes of a country by retailers when it is generally down to cost or regulation.

Postage to Ireland legitimately costs more than domestically in the UK. Royal Mail eat the extra costs of servicing NI (and the Highlands/Islands in Scotland - which couriers surcharge) as part of their normal pricing

Most parcel post comes to Ireland in the bellies of passenger aircraft and hence has strict rules on what can go in it. Most courier firms apply similar rules.

We have different rules on what can be sold to consumers than the UK

We have stricter WEEE rules than the UK

And so on and so on.

aindriu80

L1011 wrote: »

You are imagining non-existent dislikes of a country by retailers when it is generally down to cost or regulation.

Postage to Ireland legitimately costs more than domestically in the UK. Royal Mail eat the extra costs of servicing NI (and the Highlands/Islands in Scotland - which couriers surcharge) as part of their normal pricing

Most parcel post comes to Ireland in the bellies of passenger aircraft and hence has strict rules on what can go in it. Most courier firms apply similar rules.

We have different rules on what can be sold to consumers than the UK

We have stricter WEEE rules than the UK

And so on and so on.

As a moderator your not really helpful.

I have read numerous articles on the Irish Time and the Irish Independent complaining about in this age of the E.U and largely free trade that you can't get items shipped from Amazon to here.

I have worked (e commerce) in small companies in Ireland and done the shipping calculations to the U.K and rest of Europe. No hassle here.

Shipping in the U.K is really cheap, shipping in Ireland is a bit expensive but that's here. Previously with strong Sterling and only having to hand the parcel over to the Irish post service its no hassle.

Its just obviously down to some personal decision, like i couldn't be arsed shipping over to Eire when I don't get anything out of it. I'm sure if we blocked something going over to the U.K we would never stop hearing about it. Amazon shouldn't tolerate this third rate behavior. Its not acceptable.

lawred2

aindriu80 wrote: »

Hi,

I'm getting fed up browsing on Amazon.co.uk only to read: This item does not ship to Ireland. Its high time that someone here started a petition to get the likes of Amazon to stop treating us like like North Korea and ship.

They ship to Northern Ireland so its obvious that they really just don't like us for personal reasons.

I'm still getting ripped off even when they do ship.

lol

L1011

aindriu80 wrote: »

As a moderator your not really helpful.

I'm not a moderator in this forum.

aindriu80 wrote: »

like i couldn't be arsed shipping over to Eire when I don't get anything out of it.

That's called a business decision, not a personal one. If you don't make money you are going to go out of business.

There are legitimate reasons behind items not being shipped to here - not personal dislikes like you believe.

lawred2

anyway - just use parcel motel

Dades

aindriu80 wrote: »

Its just obviously down to some personal decision, like i couldn't be arsed shipping over to Eire when I don't get anything out of it.

Why would a business do anything if they don't get anything out it? This isn't amazon.org we're talking about.

Unless you're implying some sort or anti-Irish sentiment clearly there's costs or hassle involved that make it uneconomical to deliver overseas. Like that extra charge levied on sellers who ship outside the UK (mentioned earlier) which you ignored.

Sleeper12

You should set up your own online business and refuse to deliver to Amazon. That'll show em.

aindriu80

Yes, I'm going to use parcel motel. But Ireland has post codes now - maybe its just an image problem and they way things are set up with Royal mail ?

I wish there was a petition somewhere to sign and send third party suppliers a link.

Unionist in the north always talk about a cold house down south, that we don't figure out what they need. It might be the same case here over in England. With the east west meetings for the Peace Process and Brexit something like should be fixed.

aindriu80

Dades wrote: »

Why would a business do anything if they don't get anything out it? This isn't amazon.org we're talking about.

Unless you're implying some sort or anti-Irish sentiment clearly there's costs or hassle involved that make it uneconomical to deliver overseas. Like that extra charge levied on sellers who ship outside the UK (mentioned earlier) which you ignored.

We are inside the E.U so I don't know where the extra charges come from. Just look at my first post, £30 pound to ship 1 kg of citric acid to ireland. Surely we should get knock on benefits with northern ireland being part of the united kingdom

foggy_lad

kierank01 wrote: »

most of the items that don't ship to Ireland are not sold by amazon themselves, but by 3rd party resellers on the amazon market place.

It is nothing to do with amazon, just the resellers making a business decision.
Those that do ship, charge a lot, whether the costs are justified, i'm not sure.

Just ship your items to parcel motel in Belfast, and forget about it.

More and more amazon sold items are showing as not shipping to Ireland but AFAIK that is down to manufacturers putting restrictions on the products which they will allow amazon to sell to Ireland, Morphy Richards items are just one lot which are hit and miss, cheaper versions will generally not ship to Ireland but the dearer models usually do ship.

Another consideration is items with batteries but Amazon seem to be relaxing this restriction in the lead up to Christmas.

aindriu80

foggy_lad wrote: »

More and more amazon sold items are showing as not shipping to Ireland but AFAIK that is down to manufacturers putting restrictions on the products which they will allow amazon to sell to Ireland, Morphy Richards items are just one lot which are hit and miss, cheaper versions will generally not ship to Ireland but the dearer models usually do ship.

Another consideration is items with batteries but Amazon seem to be relaxing this restriction in the lead up to Christmas.

I have noticed the same. Cheaper items especially.

I'm not going on with this thread, obviously people are happy as things stand.

L1011

aindriu80 wrote: »

I wish there was a petition somewhere to sign and send third party suppliers a link.

Petitions are the most pointless thing ever. Petitioning a private business to do something it has no interest in doing for legitimate reasons is just throwing time away.

aindriu80 wrote: »

We are inside the E.U so I don't know where the extra charges come from. Just look at my first post, £30 pound to ship 1 kg of citric acid to ireland. Surely we should get knock on benefits with northern ireland being part of the united kingdom

Shipping to Ireland is dearer than shipping domestically in the UK. How difficult is that to understand?

Royal Mail take the losses of servicing Northern Ireland as part of their PSO. They can't charge any more than for anywhere else in the UK. That PSO requirement stops at the border

You are conflating and confusing many, many things here that are completely irrelevant - the EU and the peace process have nothing to do with the fact that shipping costs more!

vicwatson

aindriu80 wrote: »

I have a parcel motel address and for small items its ok. Here is just one example: Citric Acid - 1 kg @ £4.80. It costs Postage & Packaging £32.37

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00WQ7632E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2P68WJGI9K46S

It should fit into Parcel Motel and save me a bit....

But my Amazon packages are usually big boxes to prevent damage. Its not long till they don't fit into the small lockers @ Parcel Motel. Shipping to Ireland shouldn't be constantly blocked. It's just down to personal dislikes.

Address pal allow bigger sizes than parcel motel

kierank01

aindriu80 wrote: »

I have noticed the same. Cheaper items especially.

I'm not going on with this thread, obviously people are happy as things stand.

£30 shipping for a £5 item is total madness, I don't think anyone would disagree on that, but there is an option to get around it, which you are going to use.

A petition is about as useful as homeopathy.

dolallyoh

vicwatson wrote: »

Address pal allow bigger sizes than parcel motel

Parcel motel seem to be having major delivery issues at moment - I would not recommend them.

Dades

dolallyoh wrote: »

Parcel motel seem to be having major delivery issues at moment - I would not recommend them.

Everyone is going to encounter delivery issues over the next six weeks. 'Tis the season.

dolallyoh

Dades wrote: »

Everyone is going to encounter delivery issues over the next six weeks. 'Tis the season.

Ah that's fine then. :rolleyes:

Suckit

The reason many don't ship to Ireland is because of VAT and shipping. It is usually the Chinese sellers that do not.

They almost always get hit. They can ship directly to the UK without getting hit for VAT, and lets face it, Amazon do not care about that.
But if their items are sent here, they may get stopped. It is easier for them to just not offer the service.
Some others do not ship here because of the WEEE tax, but i am not sure how many that realistically applies to anymore.


For any deliveries that i have to use address pal or parcel wizard etc. for, i always review the item minus a star and review the seller minus two stars.

Dades

dolallyoh wrote: »

Ah that's fine then. :rolleyes:

Point *missed*

miezekatze

I don't mind the fact that a lot of amazon sellers don't ship to Ireland, I'm sure they have their reasons and that's not amazon's fault. I do mind however that I have to click into each listing to find out if I can buy it or not. I think there should be a checkbox you can tick to only show items that can be shipped to Ireland, would make it so much more user friendly.

Muhammed_1

OP, look for the same product from a different seller.

Look for a 'Prime' product. They're delivered free if your basket is over £20.

There is Citric Acid 1Kg for £6.49 instead of £4.80 like you had found. The 6.49 one has free delivery to Ireland if your basket is over £20.


There's also this.
Citric Acid 2.5 Kg, Pharmaceutical & Food Quality, 100% Pure, powder E330, ecological descaler, NortemBio, CE product.
by NortemBio
£11.60

Prime, so free delivery to Ireland if over £20.

Muhammed_1

Also this.
*CITRIC ACID* 1KG Powder - Many Uses (Including As Descaler) - FOOD and 'Pharma...
by PlantPowders.co.uk
£2.99
Add-on Item

It's an add-on item so can only be bought if bought as part of a larger order, over £20 I think, for free delivery to Ireland.

dolallyoh

Dades wrote: »

Point *missed*

Go on then, educate me? Edit in fact don't. Not interested.

rubadub

aindriu80 wrote: »

Just look at my first post, £30 pound to ship 1 kg of citric acid to ireland. Surely we should get knock on benefits with northern ireland being part of the united kingdom

Your complaint should really be with royal mail & couriers. Though some sellers might slap on extra too.

Some sellers will be using couriers who can charge a fortune for a blanket "outside europe" "outside mainland UK", it could be £30 to australia or here. Some may up the price to cover potential scammers, figuring they could deal with internal UK scammers easier.

Where I work we supply a massive international company with machines, I know they make a loss sending the to NI due to courier costs, but still offer it at the same price as they do not want to be seen as penalizing some parts of the UK.

I am surprised Royal mail have not found a way to blacklist parcel motel and parcel wizard. Maybe they are making some money off them though, but if the did not exist a % of those packages going through to PM via royal mail would have gone through normal royal mail at much higher prices.

Citric acid can be got cheaply in asian supermarkets by the way. Some might have bigger catering size bags out back for cheaper. Some chemists will order it in special too, their 100g tubs might cost a fortune but 1kg might be OK. Homebrew shops also stock it in large sizes.

crossmolinalad

Have two addresses One in Ireland and one in THe Netherlands
if I will buy something and the site says does not ship to Ireland then I try it again on the dutch address and then they do ship to the Netherlands
Whats the difference ????????
In mine opinion its discrimination from them

whiterebel

crossmolinalad wrote: »

Have two addresses One in Ireland and one in THe Netherlands
if I will buy something and the site says does not ship to Ireland then I try it again on the dutch address and then they do ship to the Netherlands
Whats the difference ????????
In mine opinion its discrimination from them

Difference is Holland is probably overland from the warehouse. Shipping products by air is restricted, which they may have to use to ship to Ireland.

joebloggs32

kierank01 wrote: »

Its not perfect of course...

Parcel motel do handle oversize items. I got a printer shipped fro free to Belfast, and PM charged 10.50 for me to collect it at a nightline depot.

It was a couple of years ago, so the cost may have changed, but seemed like good value to me at the time...

I have had some fairly large boxes delivered by parcel Wizard lately and have never been charged more than standard delivery, which I think is 3.85. Out of my last 4 deliveries the smallest one was a Phillips air fryer

donspeekinglesh

miezekatze wrote: »

I don't mind the fact that a lot of amazon sellers don't ship to Ireland, I'm sure they have their reasons and that's not amazon's fault. I do mind however that I have to click into each listing to find out if I can buy it or not. I think there should be a checkbox you can tick to only show items that can be shipped to Ireland, would make it so much more user friendly.

On the phone, so don't have a link, but there is a Chrome plugin that can auto hide listings that don't ship here.

mickzer

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

On the phone, so don't have a link, but there is a Chrome plugin that can auto hide listings that don't ship here.

Would this be it?
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/amazon-shipping-filter/alfkindkahgpcihepceidgnbpolhhmmk?hl=en

donspeekinglesh

mickzer wrote: »

Would this be it?
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/amazon-shipping-filter/alfkindkahgpcihepceidgnbpolhhmmk?hl=en

That's the one.

aindriu80

mickzer wrote: »

Would this be it?
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/amazon-shipping-filter/alfkindkahgpcihepceidgnbpolhhmmk?hl=en

Thanks that's handy.

I see Ireland is 3rd on the list for being more likely to be refused delivery and pay extra for online purchases.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/consumer/irish-shoppers-more-likely-to-be-refused-delivery-and-pay-extra-for-online-purchases-1.2904823

Some price gaps are justified, however where additional costs are incurred because of distance, or due to market conditions, pricing by competitors, or extra risk linked to rules differing in member states.

However, the report notes, “the lack of clarity as to what constitutes a direct justification by objective criteria . . .gives rise to arbitrary justifications”.

I'm getting on ok with ParcelMotel