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Milk Price III

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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,135 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Glanbia 30cpl base and 0.5cpl top up from ourselves for May


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭alps


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Glanbia 30cpl base and 0.5cpl top up from ourselves for May

    Glanbia’s new Irish cheese brand on the US market, Truly Grass Fed, is retailing for $4.99 for a 7oz package in Californian retailer Vons in Santa Barbara. That is $2 cheaper than the equivalent weight of Kerrygold branded cheese.

    And that people is why glanbia pay less....

    The travesty is that they will ###k up the price for all of us...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    alps wrote: »
    Glanbia’s new Irish cheese brand on the US market, Truly Grass Fed, is retailing for $4.99 for a 7oz package in Californian retailer Vons in Santa Barbara. That is $2 cheaper than the equivalent weight of Kerrygold branded cheese.

    And that people is why glanbia pay less....

    The travesty is that they will ###k up the price for all of us...

    If that's Irish cheese, it's also got a hefty tariff included in that price
    Also don't glanbia produce the kerrygold butter sold in the states


  • Registered Users Posts: 307 ✭✭oxjkqg


    Kerry Unchanged at 30.5 cent.

    I think the Ornua PPI might aswell just be scrapped at this stage because any coop isnt taking a blind bit of notice of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    oxjkqg wrote: »
    Kerry Unchanged at 30.5 cent.

    I think the Ornua PPI might aswell just be scrapped at this stage because any coop isnt taking a blind bit of notice of it.

    Kerry don't sell through Ornua.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 307 ✭✭oxjkqg


    Kerry don't sell through Ornua.


    If they don't shur can't they have a stand alone price so and not have to be in the same ballpark as every other coop on the island?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,142 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Ah do they have a seat on the Board of Ornua like Glanbia and know what's going on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,142 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    West Cork
    Aurivo
    Dairygold
    Glanbia 30.0 Holding
    Kerry
    Arrabawn
    Lakeland 31.28 Holding
    Strathroy


  • Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭Gman1987


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    If that's Irish cheese, it's also got a hefty tariff included in that price
    Also don't glanbia produce the kerrygold butter sold in the states

    They are one of the suppliers into the Kerrygold brand but are also competing against the brand in export markets. Winner there is the consumer, loser will be the farmer, coop neutral as they will maintain their margin!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Water John wrote: »
    West Cork
    Aurivo
    Dairygold
    Glanbia 30.0 Holding
    Kerry 30.5 Holding
    Arrabawn
    Lakeland 31.28 Holding
    Strathroy

    I added the Kerry price in there too, John.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    oxjkqg wrote: »
    If they don't shur can't they have a stand alone price so and not have to be in the same ballpark as every other coop on the island?

    Sorry, I'm not following you there?

    The 'leading milk price' is supposed to be the best price paid to farmers by all the processors, excluding the Carbery price by their own claims that it isn't purely product related but some coming from dividends from the Carbery owned value added site in the US.

    They haven't sold through Bord Bainne/Ornua for years and took a case to court looking for their shares in it to be redeemed at market value, which they lost (and Revenue are now fighting in favour of Kerrys position:rolleyes: :D)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    A bit in the Indo on proposed milk price stabilization measures favoured by the EU atm.
    https://twitter.com/farming_indo/status/1139179117105111041?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    What's the betting they'd do more harm than good


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Will we ever see 45c again I wonder


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Will we ever see 45c again I wonder

    We will (base in mid /high 30s plus solids )we will also see a price in the mid 20s as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,481 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    We will (base in mid /high 30s plus solids )we will also see a price in the mid 20s as well

    Can’t see it myself Irish processors used to be maybe 2-3 cent behind the likes of Friesland campina historically before quotas been lifted but the trend since and the money spent on processing (a lot of it bargain basement commodity powder dryers) has put us down at the bottom of the pile re returns our co-ops can generate on the world market, it’s telling how despite all the extra milk been processed a lot of processors aren’t making any better margins and going the opppsie way in some cases


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,142 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Obvious the main actors from then Minister Coveney down, decided to go for volume.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    We will (base in mid /high 30s plus solids )we will also see a price in the mid 20s as well

    I meant base. 43.77c for December milk in 2018 here


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    I meant base. 43.77c for December milk in 2018 here
    That was including winter/liquid bonus ,no reason with product mix in most of our coops why that price won’t be seen again


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    That was including winter/liquid bonus ,no reason with product mix in most of our coops why that price won’t be seen again

    No winter bonus. Left winter milk last year


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    No winter bonus. Left winter milk last year

    Base price of 43 ish was base plus winter contract tho ..


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Base price of 43 ish was base plus winter contract tho ..

    Think the 2 of us are getting a bit mixed up here or maybe just me.
    The base was 30c in December we ended up with a price if 43.77c. No winter bonus or liquid contract in that. Just base price and then adjusted for solids


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Think the 2 of us are getting a bit mixed up here or maybe just me.
    The base was 30c in December we ended up with a price if 43.77c. No winter bonus or liquid contract in that. Just base price and then adjusted for solids

    Yeadh wires crossed ,base price is base .no solids ,wasn’t it quoted earlier that a base of 43 odd sense ??im saying that was base plus winter contract ..


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭visatorro


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Yeadh wires crossed ,base price is base .no solids ,wasn’t it quoted earlier that a base of 43 odd sense ??im saying that was base plus winter contract ..

    Must be bad when two good lads get confused, what hope for the rest of us dopes!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    visatorro wrote: »
    Must be bad when two good lads get confused, what hope for the rest of us dopes!

    Milk pricing is confusing now with fixed schemes revolving fund money ,cookie jar money and the latest gimmick from coops quoting average price including solids .imo price quoted every month by coops and reported in kpmg should be price ex vat at standard solids and nothing else .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Just looking at the Kerry annual report and the arbitration results expected on the 19th, this Wednesday at the AGM.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,142 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    West Cork 32.46 Holding
    Aurivo 30.5 Holding
    Dairygold
    Glanbia 30.0 Holding
    Kerry 30.5 Holding
    Arrabawn 30.71 Holding
    Lakeland 31.28 Holding
    Strathroy


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,627 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Milk pricing is confusing now with fixed schemes revolving fund money ,cookie jar money and the latest gimmick from coops quoting average price including solids .imo price quoted every month by coops and reported in kpmg should be price ex vat at standard solids and nothing else .

    You should try comparing prices at meat plants! Big difference between farmer price and journal price there too.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Arrabawn held


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,135 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Arrabawn held
    at?


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