Milk Price III

K.G.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123650041#Comment_123650041

And who owns the coop

straight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123650654#Comment_123650654

Shareholders. And who lines their own pocket from the Co-Op. Have you not witnessed waste in how Co-Ops are run.... Dairygold would be a fine example imo for one.

ginger22

The thing is there is only the one pot of money to go around. The management are under pressure to be seen to pay a good price per litre and balance The books and pay salaries and bonuses. Fat and protein tests are an easy target. The farmer may not get any extra money at the end of the day but the real price might be known. 47 cents instead of the headline 50 cents

yewdairy

Any milk supplier in the country can get spilt sampling done with IFA through a independent lab if they think they are being defrauded on milk test . The steps of how to go about it are on IFA website.

Its bananas to think the coops would engage in a multiple million euro fraud rather than simply cut the base price to balance the books. Cutting the milk price hasn't bothered them before

K.G.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123650734#Comment_123650734

So it really makes zero difference to the price .its possible sources of waste and inefficiency s we should be targeting and if they were improved then you would get more for your milk

mahoney_j

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123650804#Comment_123650804

not as far fetched as you think ….Ive no doubt milk test results and parameters within tests can and are altered ….few weeks back load of suppliers in my coop were getting really low lactose tests ….4.3/4.4 …no way it was accurate …..good few calls to milk advisor and hey presto lactose jumped straight back to where they should be ….fluctuations in milk fats is also very common with unexplained swings in results ….i looked for a lab who do my milk recording to test a sample from my tank ….refused as request had to come thru coop 😉😉…requesting split sample through coop is waste of time

awaywithyou

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123650859#Comment_123650859

Well if you want to talk about inefficiencies look at the number of coops we have in munster... tis ridiculous… tirlan have the whole of leinster and Waterford.. aurivo in Connacht and Donegal... in munster we have multiple plants working flat out for a couple weeks and tipping away for the rest of the year... then in kerry we have listowel which is closed for 6 months...

K.G.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123650950#Comment_123650950

Amalgamation s don't seem to improve things either though.i sorry but are u dvocating for winter milk or something

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123651134#Comment_123651134

Anyone going into winter milk would certainly be bucking the trend - articles below from the IFJ this week.

836 producers left winter milk in the last 10 years with 118 leaving this year.

straight

I wouldn't trust my "Co-Op" as far as I could throw them. Milk recorder won't take a sample from the milk tank. Never pushed them to do so.

Milk recording results are always higher.

Another Co-Op around here don't have a lab of their own to test their milk so the use the dairygold lab. Their results are higher in Co-Op reports but they pay a flat price.

We had two farms with one supplier number before. Each tank had to be collected on alternate days to make it work. The milk statement read identical milk constituents on both farms.

Castlekeeper

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123651217#Comment_123651217

That tells its own story.

The first thing Kerry did when they took over Golden Vale was end the independent milk testing by SWS, forefficiency purposes of course.

Apparantly fat and protein levels did not improve following the change...

straight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123655649#Comment_123655649

How in God's name are some lads so naive....

Siamsa Sessions

Interesting point re milk recording results versus co-op results.

(I did a milk recording last week so it's in my head!)

You'd probably want to compare them over a few years to see if there's always/sometimes/rarely a difference. But the evidence would there then either way for all to see.

atlantic mist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123656303#Comment_123656303

the kit used to test all samples can have a variance of 0.1, i looked into buying one a few years ago, so 3.4 protein could be 3.5 or 3.3….over a 10/15 year avg my butterfat/protein would be up or down by .1 each year but even out

my independent milk recording results are 0.4 lower for butterfat than coop milk test for past year, the agitating function doesn't seem to be working on my milk recording set up (drips into sample jar), independent testers explained how important even agitating a tank before collection can be

straight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123656403#Comment_123656403

Fat is higher in evening milkings too I'm told.

whelan2

Most milk recording samples are from one milking only. The bulk tank sample is normally from 4 milkings, so can't be used to compare

ginger22

Well shure Kerry and Munster milk recording are all the one.

Castlekeeper

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123656170#Comment_123656170

If you wish to quote my comment, you could at least address me directly rather than going for the (ill-judged) behind the back snigger to the lads.

Given your misinterpretation, I suggest you get your bloods checked as you seem unable to absorb irony...

straight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657426#Comment_123657426

You've Lost me... as usual.

Siamsa Sessions

Tirlan paid 48.58c for June milk.