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Nissan Navara rusting chassis

  • 02-11-2016 07:54PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8


    WHOOPS!
    My 2008 Navara just failed its DOE with the chassis rusted to the point that you can easily put a screw driver through sections of it. I brought it back to Nissan and they are "starting" a "process" to examine the issue.
    Having read previous forum discussions I'm not looking forward to this "process"

    Can anybody confirm firstly, if the chassis is covered under warranty? (I've heard that the chassis is covered for 10 years but would like to know for sure before I start fighting with Nissan?)
    Secondly, I've read a lot of horror stories on this issue on various forums but Nissan Ireland seem to be making some offers against trade-ins or scrapage for Navara's with this issue so can anybody confirm what offers have been made on 06, 07 or 08 models to date so that I'm armed with other offers that have been done before Nissan try to bury yet another problem Navara with the lowest offer against their warranty obligations.

    Thanks in advance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    There is a thread over on the farming forum about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭porsche boy


    Go to any Nissan dealer. They will buy back '08 Navaras for 6500. Make sure the DOE failure sheet has 'excessive chassis corrosion or underbody rust as a failure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 RebelOC


    Thank you porsche boy....
    Its market value is higher as its in perfect nik otherwise with only 147000Km on the engine 😂

    Im not sure where it will stand as the lower value is only driven by the "under warranty" issue....

    I guess I'll find out in the coming days......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭porsche boy


    RebelOC wrote:
    Thank you porsche boy.... Its market value is higher as its in perfect nik otherwise with only 147000Km on the engine 😂

    Sorry to say not with a failed DOE & rotten chassis. 2008 is when Nissan rectified the issue & some 2008 will be structurally solid and worth more money, yours is not. Sorry to be blunt about it but better to have realistic expectations. Good luck.

    P.S. you might get better value if you were buying a new Navara off them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 Sideshow Cecil


    This recently happened a neighbour of mine,after a lot of hassle with Nissan finally got them to admit that his '06 navarra was not roadworthy and agreed a buy back from Nissan in the region of 8.5 k if I recall, took ages to get the money off them and ended up getting a solicitor the finally get his money, get any dealings with the garage on email for proof for failsafe and stand your ground, best of luck!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 RebelOC


    Thanks for your reply. I suspect I will have to get a solicitor involved. Still no word back from Nissan but I'm certainly not accepting a 6.5K offer as suggested as a solution in an earlier reply.

    Thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭cplwhisper


    Cracking chassis is nissan recall at moment... could be linked to same. Worth a warranty call. Mines a Miller if it can be recalled !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭porsche boy


    cplwhisper wrote:
    Cracking chassis is nissan recall at moment... could be linked to same. Worth a warranty call. Mines a Miller if it can be recalled !

    It is a warranty recall at the moment, but their going case by case, not a blanket guarantee you'll get it. A failed DOE stating rotten chassis or similar will definitely strengthen your case. The buyback is not based on spec or extras, just year.
    As I previously stated, get the ball rolling now by going to any Nissan dealer and requesting the chassis be inspected for rust/rot. Trying to get more off them because your Navara is 'clean' or 'well minded' is not going to get you anywhere. It's trade value, or bluebook value as some call it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭cplwhisper


    cplwhisper wrote:
    Cracking chassis is nissan recall at moment... could be linked to same. Worth a warranty call. Mines a Miller if it can be recalled !

    It is a warranty recall at the moment, but their going case by case, not a blanket guarantee you'll get it. A failed DOE stating rotten chassis or similar will definitely strengthen your case. The buyback is not based on spec or extras, just year.
    As I previously stated, get the ball rolling now by going to any Nissan dealer and requesting the chassis be inspected for rust/rot. Trying to get more off them because your Navara is 'clean' or 'well minded' is not going to get you anywhere. It's trade value, or bluebook value as some call it.
    Seen that before too. Ex Nissan Warranty staff in my previous life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭porsche boy


    Interesting.... quite possibly dealt with you in MY previous life.

    Edit: Keith???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭cplwhisper


    Nope... Paul , Nissan Donegal but i dealt with nation wide cases too at time. Insurance staff now so same s**t different title


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭porsche boy


    cplwhisper wrote:
    Nope... Paul , Nissan Donegal but i dealt with nation wide cases too at time. Insurance staff now so same s**t different title

    Sorry, thought you were based in Nissan H/O when you said that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    I know you think your car is worth more but you have a Navara that to be worth anything other than its weight in scrap metal, needs thousands spent on buying and replacing a chassis. It's crap to hear but the car is essentially worthless.

    In the Nissan garage I work in, the process is very simple so I'd be curious to see exactly what's happening with your yoke.

    It's worth asking if the garage would offer you anything against the price of the new model Navara too, on top of the warranty claim. Can't hurt to ask and could potentially see you in a better position. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭VeVeX


    CianRyan wrote: »
    I know you think your car is worth more but you have a Navara that to be worth anything other than its weight in scrap metal, needs thousands spent on buying and replacing a chassis. It's crap to hear but the car is essentially worthless.

    In the Nissan garage I work in, the process is very simple so I'd be curious to see exactly what's happening with your yoke.

    It's worth asking if the garage would offer you anything against the price of the new model Navara too, on top of the warranty claim. Can't hurt to ask and could potentially see you in a better position. :)

    Its Nissans fault they are effectively worthless. They didnt deisgn and manufacture the car properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    VeVeX wrote: »
    Its Nissans fault they are effectively worthless. They didnt deisgn and manufacture the car properly.

    Yep, that's why they're offering thousands of euro for otherwise worthless cars. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,142 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    A relative got 6.5k for his 07. He was happy as it was close to what he paid to begin with. It failed the DOE and was so bad the tester wouldn't let him drive it home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭VeVeX


    CianRyan wrote: »
    Yep, that's why they're offering thousands of euro for otherwise worthless cars. :)

    You make it out like they're doing you a favour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    VeVeX wrote: »
    You make it out like they're doing you a favour.

    It's a recall, it is what it is but that doesn't stop the fact that they're paying out more than the cars are worth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭VeVeX


    CianRyan wrote: »
    It's a recall, it is what it is but that doesn't stop the fact that they're paying out more than the cars are worth.

    And rightly so. Im sure a lot of people affected would rather have kept their vehicle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    VeVeX wrote: »
    And rightly so. Im sure a lot of people affected would rather have kept their vehicle.

    They'll honestly buy a better pick up than a writeoff/repaired Navara with the money they'll get. And as said, you'll get a great deal on a brand new, new model Navara if you look for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭lenihankevin


    Happened my 07....Nissan couldn't have been better to deal with...they bought the navara off me and cheque was in my hand within 1 week. The crack in the chassis was noticed by mechanics in a Nissan garage and they did the legwork with Nissan Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 RebelOC


    I agree with you VeVeX, it is Nissan's fault and the ONLY reason it wont achieve it's full market value is because of the fault at manufacture and so Nissan can either put a new chassis on it or pay it's value........and not that Trade "cod-ol-ogy" of a Blue Book value....either way, it's up to them. I have no problem leaving this with a Solicitor.....more anon.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    How much do you think your Navara is worth our of interest.

    There are two 08 Navaras on Donedeal right now, 1 is €8k and the other is €7.5k, both up for over 20 days which would suggest to me that both are over priced.
    €6.5k isn't a mile off, without taking into account what they'll eventually sell for (what they're really worth) and the fact that you can probably get scrapped on your Navara too and bring the worth of the trade up to about €10.5k.

    I just can't get my head around going to a solicitor unless you thought your own car was worth €14k/€15k.
    By all means though, fire away and get what you think you deserve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 williek74


    I had a navara with a rusted chassis 07 with 150k offered by local nissan garage 7k straight buy back 8.5k on secondhand trade in and 10k trade in against new navara
    Got advise from solicitor and when mentioned I had seen a solicitor they immediately told me to ring nissan ireland as it was out of their hands now as I had gotten legal advice.
    Ended up getting an extra 500 for my trouble! Great as long as the solicitor you see doesn't charge you the 500 for the advice or phone call. (Mine didn't thank god)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭millington


    CianRyan wrote: »
    How much do you think your Navara is worth our of interest.

    There are two 08 Navaras on Donedeal right now, 1 is €8k and the other is €7.5k, both up for over 20 days which would suggest to me that both are over priced.
    €6.5k isn't a mile off, without taking into account what they'll eventually sell for (what they're really worth) and the fact that you can probably get scrapped on your Navara too and bring the worth of the trade up to about €10.5k.

    I just can't get my head around going to a solicitor unless you thought your own car was worth €14k/€15k.
    By all means though, fire away and get what you think you deserve.
    Of course they're up so long, who in their right mind would buy a Navara at the minute! Even if Nissan paid the current market value, the value is not as high as it should be because of Nissan.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭J.pilkington


    CianRyan wrote: »
    How much do you think your Navara is worth our of interest.

    There are two 08 Navaras on Donedeal right now, 1 is €8k and the other is €7.5k, both up for over 20 days which would suggest to me that both are over priced.

    Shock horror a 4x4 with massive rust chassis issues which is advertised hasn't sold within 20 days! Who in their right mind would buy these.

    Therefore the open market selling price which will reflect the fact that these cars are a timebomb can hardly be used to determine the compensation due!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    So what about every 90's Merc, 2000's Alfa, Toyota etc.
    Should everyone who currently owns one of those be compensated because they all can suffer from terminal rust?

    The fact that they're offering anything is a testament to the brand but somehow the only brand that are offering money back to its customers are the ones getting slated.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭J.pilkington


    CianRyan wrote: »
    So what about every 90's Merc, 2000's Alfa, Toyota etc.
    Should everyone who currently owns one of those be compensated because they all can suffer from terminal rust?

    The fact that they're offering anything is a testament to the brand but somehow the only brand that are offering money back to its customers are the ones getting slated.

    You need to educate yourself of the extent of the rust/ destruction. This is not a little surface rust on a wing. These 4by4s are dangerous.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1hijOHhB3Q

    Also a 90s bla bla car is a hell of a lot older than a 2008 4by4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    You need to educate yourself of the extent of the rust/ destruction. This is not a little surface rust on a wing. These 4by4s are dangerous.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1hijOHhB3Q

    Also a 90s bla bla car is a hell of a lot older than a 2008 4by4.

    Hahaha, mate I work in a Nissan main dealer. I know how bad the rust issue is.
    Fine then, take the NB MX5 as early as the mid 2000's with the same issue. Cassis rusting from the inside our, no major recall or compensation offered.


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭J.pilkington


    CianRyan wrote: »
    Hahaha, mate I work in a Nissan main dealer. I know how bad the rust issue is..

    Ahh now your reply makes sense! Toeing the corporate line:rolleyes:


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